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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,100 posts)
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:46 PM Aug 2020

Trump Says You Can Vote by Mail in Florida After Insisting You Shouldn't Do That in Any State Ever

Source: The Daily Beast

Donald Trump has relished making mail in voting a boogeyman during the coronavirus pandemic, denouncing the method routinely as part of his longstanding and evidence-free crusade over alleged voter fraud.

But that was before he realized how much Republican voters had started to listen to him. Now, with his re-election chances on line, the president is embracing the practice in the crucial swing state of Florida.

Within the senior ranks of Team Trump’s political and field operations, there have been significant concerns for weeks that the president and GOP’s crusade against voting-by-mail could actually backfire and result in a depression of absentee ballots cast for Trump come Election Day, according to three people familiar with the matter. However, all of these sources said that this growing concern has not convinced top advisers in the president’s vast reelection machine to actually stop this election’s legal, rhetorical, and advertising war—backed by tens of millions of dollars on the right—on mail-in voting during the pandemic. Instead, it has merely intensified their internal urgency to find new, broader ways to create a distinction between absentee and mail-in voting, even though functionally they are the same thing. Key to their argument, they say, is the increase in volume would lead to delays creating a national version of the bungled New York City election.

Two of the sources said they have discussed the issue about potential blowback from an anti-mail-in-voting push with President Trump over the past couple weeks, and have talked to him about how the Republican Party’s victories in critical states in the 2020 election could even come down to robust absentee-ballot operations. They encouraged Trump to speak clearly about what they see as the differences between Democratic efforts to expand mail-in voting during the coronavirus crisis, and longstanding systems of absentee voting.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-you-can-vote-by-mail-in-florida-after-insisting-you-shouldn-t-do-that-in-any-state-ever/ar-BB17zvPT?li=BBnbfcQ&ocid=DELLDHP

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Trump Says You Can Vote by Mail in Florida After Insisting You Shouldn't Do That in Any State Ever (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2020 OP
It's Only A Problem In Blue States ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #1
Florida has the same US Postal Service as all states. chriscan64 Aug 2020 #2
There is a vote suppressing program in FL that is being used to disenfranchise Democrats. lark Aug 2020 #8
Of course Zambero Aug 2020 #3
"It is because Florida has such a great history of well run elections, right Chad?" Chainfire Aug 2020 #4
Chad needs to be hung Blue Owl Aug 2020 #5
I live in Florida radical noodle Aug 2020 #6
Seniors in Florida should vote him out of office for screwing them over again duforsure Aug 2020 #7
Won't his statement ruin his argument in his suit against Nevada MissMillie Aug 2020 #9

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
2. Florida has the same US Postal Service as all states.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:03 PM
Aug 2020

So if it's not the Post Office, what's his issue? Democratic governors are going to rig the election in their states? Wouldn't they do that with any means of voting, just fudge the count? It seems weird to me that Trump believes he would win in these states in a fair election when the voters elected Democratic governors.

Another thing that is going to bite Trump in the ass is that once he sets his mob off in a direction, they don't all change course as quickly as he does when he flip-flops. Look at the mask issue, they are still anti-mask despite the "change of tone" at press conferences. The typical Trump voter is still dead set against mail-in voting despite this announcement.

lark

(23,134 posts)
8. There is a vote suppressing program in FL that is being used to disenfranchise Democrats.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 08:46 AM
Aug 2020

There is very strict signature matching that got 100,000 ballots thrown out in 2018. The law requires notification to the voter so they can come in and sign a new card, but guess who never gets the letter - Democrats. I volunteered with FL Dems in 2018 & was part of thousands of calls made to Dems who had been sent mail in ballots but they weren't counted. Almost all of them were rejected, but not ONE had received a letter telling them about this. It is only Hispanic or black names that get rejected - I'd bet that accounts for almost all the volume. AFAIK no studies have been done on this because FL Repugs have what they want - a tried and true way to reject any Dem ballots they want.

Voting by mail in FL if you are a Democrat is mainly a way for the Purinistas to reject your vote, which is why Traitor Tot is pushing it so hard. You think he would ever push anything good for the people - ha - never, ever in his life.

Chainfire

(17,576 posts)
4. "It is because Florida has such a great history of well run elections, right Chad?"
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:08 PM
Aug 2020

Apparently Trump feels like the fix is in in the Sunshine State.

radical noodle

(8,008 posts)
6. I live in Florida
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 01:22 AM
Aug 2020

and have to wonder if this means the Republicans are rigging the votes here. I didn't exactly trust the count in the governor's race in 2018. Now I think I'll go vote in person rather than mailing my ballot.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
7. Seniors in Florida should vote him out of office for screwing them over again
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 06:19 AM
Aug 2020

by refusing getting them covid 19 relief funds.

MissMillie

(38,568 posts)
9. Won't his statement ruin his argument in his suit against Nevada
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 11:00 AM
Aug 2020

What could possibly be the legal precedent for allowing one state and not another?

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