Britain plunges into deep recession, with steep job losses and Europe's highest virus death toll
Source: Washington Post
LONDON The official numbers were published Wednesday, and they are officially ugly. The British economy has plunged into a record-shattering recession, shrinking by a fifth in the second quarter and posting the steepest decline of any Group of Seven nation.
Alongside huge job losses announced a day earlier, Prime Minister Boris Johnsons Britain now finds itself with the worst economy and highest death toll in Europe from the coronavirus. In numbers of deaths, the United Kingdom follows the United States, Brazil and Mexico.
The official data released Wednesday by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) showed that gross domestic product (GDP) fell 20.4 percent in the second quarter April, May and June compared with the first quarter. The downturn reflected losses across all sectors, after the country went into a tight lockdown in the third week of March.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/britain-plunges-into-deep-recession-with-steep-job-losses-and-europes-highest-virus-death-toll/2020/08/12/84190d52-dc85-11ea-b4f1-25b762cdbbf4_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most
The UK is on its own, now that it's leaving the EU and the US too weak to give it a boost. Boo hoo, Boris.
Ford_Prefect
(7,921 posts)While the same disaster is rolling on in the US under the rubric of "Make America Great Again."
It is stunning to see the parallels of political corruption and the incredible incompetence of the leadership and the individual ministers and agency officials in both governments. Likewise the racist and obscenely nationalist threads at the heart of both MAGA and Brexit.
Yet no one in either Labour or Democratic parties has the perspicacity to observe what is so terribly obvious to anyone who paid attention to what Putin has done in Ukraine and how that rolled out.
groundloop
(11,523 posts)I call bullshit on that claim. The entire Democratic Party is raising holy hell about what tRump is doing to the country, but since McConnell and his fellow GOPers in the Senate are putting party over country nothing is being done.
Ford_Prefect
(7,921 posts)on both governments. Many people have said that Trump and Boris are too close to Putin. No prominent Dem as said either is an agent of a specific foreign foe.
What I find puzzling is that no one inside the Intel community is raising this alarm, since they must have more direct evidence.
I am sure some of this is likely carry-over from the Bush I & Bush-Cheney age of parallel governance during which the MIC or (your preferred name ) have effectively built their own apparatus to continue the militarization of US foreign policy, in cahoots with private military contractors.
My principal point is that no one yet has whatever it takes to call Trump and Boris what they are and pursue it. Those of us who see it are told to shut up and put our tinfoil back on.
Serious politicians are bending backward verbally to avoid saying that our *president* and much of his policy are run by Putin. Yes, Donny's a vicious and vindictive clown and can't think his way past the next burger. Yes, the blond Twit at #10 is the British equivalent. Both are vain fools with power fixations. None of that explains the ruthless destruction of their own national institutions in the patterns we have seen.
They are both clowns designed to distract from the puppet strings that pull them. No one has said that yet on camera or in Congress. If you've got a quote on the record that says otherwise I would dearly love to see it because I'd like to think someone was paying attention to more than the clown show and the incipient disasters.
yardwork
(61,711 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,921 posts)of the House or the Senate speaking out. They did impeach... and the evidence got buried by McConnell and Barr.
I want someone to say out loud that the president and his immediate familiars and certain members of the cabinet are operating on orders or guidance from Putin via all the obvious means.
I want the Congressional hearings into what the Fuck the NSA and other agencies have in hand. How many more people must die and how many citizens must be put in harm's way before someone stands up and speaks the truth?
I want the US Congress to have the guts to shut it all down if need be like the Democratic Legislators in Texas who left town rather than vote against their conscience.
Someone sure needs to do something like that. They stopped listening when I asked the right questions they didn't want to answer about the Gulf War. The congressmen I and others approached didn't want to comment on the specifics. It took the WikiLeaks info dump to break that one. Imagine what we would not yet know if they hadn't.
They don't care what I write here. It used to matter enough that they'd lie about it to have something to say. Now they are silent. The MSM pitches hints and rumor and then ducks harder analysis.
robbob
(3,538 posts)With you, Donald, all roads lead to Russia? Or something like that...
yardwork
(61,711 posts)We knew Brexit was a disaster, we knew Putin brought it about through propaganda and influence, and we saw the same influences and propaganda at work in 2016 in the U.S.
The propaganda for both was obvious here on DU.
Maxheader
(4,374 posts)and social distance...betcha...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8605293/Britain-cools-wheres-social-distancing-Drinkers-pack-beer-gardens.html
denem
(11,045 posts)"We're the future. Your future".
durablend
(7,465 posts)CrispyQ
(36,518 posts)And why aren't the MAGAs complaining about the socialism of that?
Ford_Prefect
(7,921 posts)marble falls
(57,240 posts)Response to lanlady (Original post)
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former9thward
(32,082 posts)For the U.S. it was a 8.25% decline for the quarter, much better than the EU. The 30% figure that was thrown around was the annualized rate based on the quarter. That means nothing since economists predict a 20% gain in the 3rd quarter for the U.S..
jaxexpat
(6,849 posts)Oh, well.
erronis
(15,335 posts)It wouldn't surprise me to see the Unitied Kingdom, previously Great Bretagne, before that England, etc. become an amalgam of shires.
Paging King Arthur! Or Cromwell or Henry xxx or
Expect to see this same reversion to feudalism happening in the US.
Meanwhile Vlad is pumping iron.
jaxexpat
(6,849 posts)been ongoing for a while. It's simply a matter of changing the names.
So there is no permanence in human endeavor. Who would have guessed?
OneCrazyDiamond
(2,032 posts)and they are Europe's worst.
former9thward
(32,082 posts)Death rate per 100,000 in the UK from Covid is 70.3 and in the U.S. is 50.1. Case fatality rate in the UK is 14.9% and in the U.S. is 3.2%. Why would we want the UK's numbers?
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/
OneCrazyDiamond
(2,032 posts)former9thward
(32,082 posts)Of course we have more cases. You would want a higher death rate?
OneCrazyDiamond
(2,032 posts)I don't want anyone to die from this. But our country would love to only have 314K cases. Instead we have over 5 million.
robbob
(3,538 posts)The USA has just under 5X the population of the UK. So, even considering the population difference, the UK Covid numbers would translate to just over 1.5 million US cases. The USA currently has over 3X that number.
robbob
(3,538 posts)qazplm135
(7,447 posts)Between our government and theirs over the years from Reagan Thatcher all the way til now and I bet after Biden wins Johnson is out not long after.
eppur_se_muova
(36,290 posts)a la izquierda
(11,797 posts)I'm moving there in October.