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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,503 posts)
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 08:44 PM Sep 2020

Court shields Trump tax returns, likely until after election

Source: Associated Press

Court shields Trump tax returns, likely until after election
By MICHAEL R. SISAK
31 minutes ago

NEW YORK (AP) -- A federal appeals court Tuesday granted President Donald Trump a temporary reprieve in the long-running fight over his tax returns, barring Manhattan's top prosecutor from getting the records while Trump's lawyers embark on another bid to overturn the subpoena seeking them.

With a temporary stay in place and Trump expecting a return to the Supreme Court, it's unlikely that the case will be resolved or any tax returns will be turned over before the November election. The three-judge panel ruled after hearing brief arguments from both sides.

Trump's lawyers argued that a stay keeping the tax returns under wraps will protect him from irreparable harm -- such as leaks from secret grand jury proceedings -- while they appeal a lower-court ruling two weeks ago that granted Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr.'s office access to Trump's tax returns.

A lawyer for Vance's office argued that further delays to the enforcement of a subpoena issued nearly a year ago would only hamper their investigation, which he said covers a wide range of business dealings connected to Trump's company, the Trump Organization.

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Read more: https://apnews.com/e8ea6c445b3d4b82de430ac8a559897d



SeriesOfMiniHats Retweeted

https://twitter.com/Popehat

New: The 2nd Circuit has granted Trump's request to block the NY DA's office from enforcing a grand jury subpoena for Trump's tax returns until the court hears the case and rules. Arguments set for 9/25. Previously: https://buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/judge-rules-trump-tax-returns




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LEGAL

Appeals court grants Trump delay in financial records case
Trump’s personal attorney persuaded court panel to prevent the Manhattan district attorney from immediately accessing the documents.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/01/appeals-court-trump-financial-records-406936

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Court shields Trump tax returns, likely until after election (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2020 OP
WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING HIDING, YOU FUCKING TRAITOR????????????? AZ8theist Sep 2020 #1
This!👆 SheltieLover Sep 2020 #2
How could they cause irreparable harm? amcgrath Sep 2020 #3
It's a legal term FBaggins Sep 2020 #12
But if Donny is as innocent as he says.... SergeStorms Sep 2020 #17
I'd love to see him suffer irreparable harm. Orrex Sep 2020 #14
The Supreme Court has Already Ruled on This Drome Sep 2020 #4
No they haven't FBaggins Sep 2020 #11
"irreparable harm" bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #5
irreparable harm is a standard legal term. Calista241 Sep 2020 #18
Well that's disappointing. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2020 #6
Activist judges LiberalLovinLug Sep 2020 #7
Someone's bank account probably just got a few million dollars bigger sandensea Sep 2020 #10
Might want to check the judges involved before claiming that FBaggins Sep 2020 #19
I'm so bummed by this. No one should be allowed to be POTUS w/o releasing 10 years of taxes. iluvtennis Sep 2020 #8
Amend the Consitiution to make that a requirement to become President. n/t gladium et scutum Sep 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz Sep 2020 #9
Unfuckingbelievable. SergeStorms Sep 2020 #15
++++ agree. nt iluvtennis Sep 2020 #21
GODDAMMIT!!! PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #16
What the Hell is in those papers? Nexus2 Sep 2020 #20
"Irreparable harm." Yet someday it's all coming out... CBHagman Sep 2020 #22
Trump is just one man. hamsterjill Sep 2020 #23
Any harm would be self inflicted by Trump as he already had years to release them himself but cstanleytech Sep 2020 #24
Well, so much for that idea Sherman A1 Sep 2020 #25
Of course... jcmaine72 Sep 2020 #26

AZ8theist

(5,477 posts)
1. WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING HIDING, YOU FUCKING TRAITOR?????????????
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 08:49 PM
Sep 2020

THIS SHOULD BE THE LEAD IN EVERY NEWS BROADCAST EVERY NIGHT FROM NOW ON.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
12. It's a legal term
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:51 PM
Sep 2020

It doesn't mean "we know what's in there and it's bad"... it basically means that any hypothetical damage can't be undone if they don't block the release but then later rule in his favor.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
17. But if Donny is as innocent as he says....
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 10:10 PM
Sep 2020

then there shouldn't be a problem, right? This all started with his taxes being audited............for 15 years.

 

Drome

(50 posts)
4. The Supreme Court has Already Ruled on This
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:03 PM
Sep 2020

And the documents should've been in Vance's office within 48 hours! WTF is Going On Here?

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
11. No they haven't
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:48 PM
Sep 2020

They just said that his absolute immunity argument was garbage... but also pointed out that there were a number of other possible appeals that the lower courts could address (like this one).

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
18. irreparable harm is a standard legal term.
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 10:14 PM
Sep 2020

basically means the genie can't be put back in the bottle. If they hand over his returns and they leak, and the court later rules in favor of Trump, there's no taking the taxes back.

The term isn't something Trump and his team are admitting to in this filing.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
7. Activist judges
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:20 PM
Sep 2020

If they are ruling that releasing them may hamper Trumps chances in the election.......so fucking what!!!

Why is preventing the American public all the facts surrounding a major candidate, especially if it will cause harm, their duty? Shouldn't their duty be to do the opposite? To protect the public by getting the facts out before citizens mark their ballots?

sandensea

(21,639 posts)
10. Someone's bank account probably just got a few million dollars bigger
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:38 PM
Sep 2020

Money often trumps the law, as you know.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
19. Might want to check the judges involved before claiming that
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 10:14 PM
Sep 2020

Two of the three each spent years as the chief judge for the 2nd circuit (one Clinton appointee, one Bush 41) and the third was Obama's appointee to replace Sotomayor on Schumer's recommendation. They aren't hacks that Trump snuck in to defend him.

If they are ruling that releasing them may hamper Trumps chances in the election

They aren't. There was already about zero chance of the returns becoming public in time for the election.

Why is preventing the American public all the facts surrounding a major candidate

The case has nothing whatsoever to do with the public's interest in his tax returns.

iluvtennis

(19,863 posts)
8. I'm so bummed by this. No one should be allowed to be POTUS w/o releasing 10 years of taxes.
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:21 PM
Sep 2020

No one is above the law.

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
15. Unfuckingbelievable.
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 10:07 PM
Sep 2020

How long can they keep stalling? Yeah, let's delay it again so one of the most dishonest human beings, let alone a sitting President of the United States, can perchance be elected again? Yeah, we can't let the American people know that their president is a fucking crook of the highest order! Goddamned judges letting this piece of shit get away with this AGAIN!

Nexus2

(1,261 posts)
20. What the Hell is in those papers?
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 10:34 PM
Sep 2020

Authorities have gotten their hands on classified documents with less struggle.

CBHagman

(16,986 posts)
22. "Irreparable harm." Yet someday it's all coming out...
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 11:38 PM
Sep 2020

...and all the fantasies of power and glamour and revenge will be revealed as nothing more than a sordid mess.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
23. Trump is just one man.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 12:07 AM
Sep 2020

An idiot at that. Why in the hell cannot ANYONE get him. I am sick of excuses. He’s a criminal. Somebody prove it.

cstanleytech

(26,298 posts)
24. Any harm would be self inflicted by Trump as he already had years to release them himself but
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 12:43 AM
Sep 2020

refused to with a claim of being under audit which was and is a complete and utter lie.

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