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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 12:05 PM Sep 2020

Trump ignores science on climate change as wildfires ravage West Coast: It will start getting cooler

Source: Chicago Tribune

SACRAMENTO, CALIF. — With the smell of California wildfires in the air, President Donald Trump on Monday ignored the scientific consensus that climate change is playing a central role in historic West Coast infernos and renewed his unfounded claim that failure to rake forest floors and clear dead timber is mostly to blame.

The fires are threatening to become another front in Trump’s reelection bid, which is already facing hurdles because of the coronavirus pandemic, joblessness and social unrest. His Democratic challenger, Joe Biden, in his own speech Monday said the destruction and mounting death toll across California, Oregon and Washington require stronger presidential leadership and labeled Trump a “climate arsonist.”

Trump traveled to Northern California to be briefed by Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom and other state and federal officials. At one point, state Natural Resources Agency Secretary Wade Crowfoot urged the president to “recognize the changing climate and what it means to our forests.”

“If we ignore that science and sort of put our head in the sand and think it’s all about vegetation management, we’re not going to succeed together protecting Californians,” Crowfoot added. Trump responded, “It will start getting cooler, just you watch.”

Read more: https://www.chicagotribune.com/election-2020/ct-2020-trump-biden-wildfire-climate-change-20200914-jeflw7kuhvarbaflp62a5hl7eq-story.html



And COVID-19 will just go away...

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-said-the-coronavirus-would-go-away-1054585/

22 Times Trump Told America the Coronavirus Would Go Away

In recent days, the president and White House staff have pushed the concept of “herd immunity” — the notion that once a critical mass of Americans catch the coronavirus it will have fewer vulnerable targets to infect, and will slow or stop its spread. That achieving any sort of herd immunity requires great sickness and death does not appear to bother the president, who’s now under the sway of new pandemic svengali Scott Atlas, a radiologist and fellow at the conservative Hoover Institution. “We use the word ‘herd,'” Trump recently told interviewer Laura Ingraham. “Once you get to a certain number, it’s going to go away.”

This is not a public-health strategy. The one country that attempted something similar, Sweden, has an even worse Covid mortality rate than the United States. Simply put: It is surrender to a pandemic that Trump has bungled from the beginning and still refuses to take adequate federal action to control, in stark contrast to competently governed nations of the developed world.

The talk of herd immunity also marks the latest perverse evolution of a notion that has addled Trump’s brain since February: That the coronavirus — whether by heat, or by miracle, or by unchecked spread — will somehow “go away” on its own. Below Rolling Stone presents a time line of more than 20 instances in which the president promised Covid-19 would disappear, contrasted to the mounting American death toll from the virus.
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Trump ignores science on climate change as wildfires ravage West Coast: It will start getting cooler (Original Post) TomCADem Sep 2020 OP
Whew, thank goodness PatSeg Sep 2020 #1
And here on the east coast as we driving back to our home and looked up into the area turbinetree Sep 2020 #2
NY Times: 'Nothing To Do With Climate Change': Conservative Media and Trump Align on Fires TomCADem Sep 2020 #4
As I said earlier... hermetic Sep 2020 #3

PatSeg

(47,600 posts)
1. Whew, thank goodness
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 12:10 PM
Sep 2020

Its going to get cooler, so we can all relax now. Trump is rarely ever wrong, you know.....................oh wait, no, it is he is rarely ever right.

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
2. And here on the east coast as we driving back to our home and looked up into the area
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 12:12 PM
Sep 2020

of the sun and made the comment to my wife..................I have never seen the sun that way.........and later that night the weather person confirmed my suspicious mind the haze from the smoke had reached the east coast.............and she has asthma and I have weakened heart condition.............and its just going to get cooler.................reminds of what that asshole Imhofe did when he went to the senate floor with a snowball.................

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
4. NY Times: 'Nothing To Do With Climate Change': Conservative Media and Trump Align on Fires
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 12:53 PM
Sep 2020

Of course, right wing media is aligning behind Trump to continue to spread misinformation.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nothing-to-do-with-climate-change-conservative-media-and-trump-align-on-fires/ar-BB194eEx?li=BBnb7Kz

Rush Limbaugh told millions of his radio listeners to set aside any suggestion that climate change was the culprit for the frightening spate of wildfires ravaging California and the Pacific Northwest.

“Man-made global warming is not a scientific certainty; it cannot be proven, nor has it ever been,” Mr. Limbaugh declared on his Friday show, disregarding the mountains of empirical evidence to the contrary, before pivoting to a popular right-wing talking point: that policies meant to curtail climate change are, in fact, an assault on freedom.

“Environmentalist wackos” — Mr. Limbaugh’s phrase — “want man to be responsible for it because they want to control your behavior,” the conservative host said on the show, adding they “want to convince you that your lifestyle choices are the reason why all these fires are firing up out on the Left Coast.”

Hours later, that message leapt to prime-time on Fox News, where the host Tucker Carlson said those who blamed the fires on climate change were merely reciting “a partisan talking point.”

hermetic

(8,310 posts)
3. As I said earlier...
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 12:15 PM
Sep 2020

"It's going to get cooler..." Well duhhh. It's almost winter, of course it's going to get cooler, dumass. Then, in December when people are dying on the streets because they lost their homes, you can come back on and say, "It's going to get warmer. Just wait and see."
Wow, this being prezelnent thing is pretty easy.

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