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Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 07:45 AM Sep 2020

Study: Maine recovering from pandemic better than any other state

Source: WGME 13

"Moody's Investment Service, a bond rating company, and CNN Business have teamed up to track the economic recovery of each state.

They say right now, Maine's economy is operating at 93 percent of where it was in early March, making it number one in the so-called "Back-to-Normal Index."

They point to the state's low infection rate, as well as the fact that Maine didn't rush to re-open, as factors."





Read more: https://wgme.com/news/local/study-maine-recovering-from-pandemic-better-than-any-other-state



Some of the Republicans in the state wanted to impeach Gov Janet Mills over her handling of the pandemic. This is some evidence that shows she has been making good decisions.

Here's the page for the back to normal index.
https://www.cnn.com/business/us-economic-recovery-coronavirus
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Study: Maine recovering from pandemic better than any other state (Original Post) Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 OP
So, with the knuckle draggers, Ohiogal Sep 2020 #1
Some of those people want Gov LePage again Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #3
Results have shown that female leaders have had better virus control. Lonestarblue Sep 2020 #2
It's very true Ohiogal Sep 2020 #4
You damn "girls" listen to science and doctors and all that stuff. Botany Sep 2020 #5
. . . fleur-de-lisa Sep 2020 #12
Michigan is also doing well in recovery, I see. Another female governor. yardwork Sep 2020 #6
Wish it were that simple -- Gov Kimmy of Iowa JT45242 Sep 2020 #8
SD Gov Kristi Noem is among the worst IronLionZion Sep 2020 #9
Right, the Republican women are just as bad as the Republican men n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #11
And Democratic men have been doing a great job managing this pandemic IronLionZion Sep 2020 #14
Absolutely. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #24
Washington's doing pretty well too. plimsoll Sep 2020 #7
I agree with you there, Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #10
I think Maine also benefits from being our geographical attic. forgotmylogin Sep 2020 #13
Do they restrict travel from other states during this pandemic? IronLionZion Sep 2020 #15
I think most of the restrictions are voluntary maineac Sep 2020 #16
Good to know IronLionZion Sep 2020 #18
Well, yeah because it is very hard to enforce Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #23
Tourism is pretty big in Maine in the summer Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #20
I agree, Maine is beautiful! forgotmylogin Sep 2020 #32
Fried clams with the bellies and Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #33
Yes: I enjoy an occasional lobster tail... forgotmylogin Sep 2020 #34
I live in Maine... augyboston Sep 2020 #17
"LeRage is back up here from Florida;" BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #19
He seems to be in politics for the attention, Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #21
Yeah BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #22
There are flat out inaccuracies here.... getagrip_already Sep 2020 #25
No, that is not true. Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #26
that is a deceptive statistic... getagrip_already Sep 2020 #28
We have a good testing rate. Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #30
Where do you see that Massachusetts is punishing Maine? mainer Sep 2020 #31
What? You must be writing about the wrong state. mainer Sep 2020 #27
see number 26.. getagrip_already Sep 2020 #29

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
3. Some of those people want Gov LePage again
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:28 AM
Sep 2020

And of course that ass is threatening to run against Janet Mills again. If he was governor right now, we'd probably have one of the highest rates of covid-19 positivity in the country. Maine has the oldest population in the country, so we have lot of vulnerable people. I hope they remember that Janet Mills took care of them when she is up for re-election. I also wish we could get the Maine constitution amended so we could use ranked choice voting in that race. That is the only race we haven't been able to use it for because of the wording in the Maine constitution and the Republicans absolutely will not change it.

Lonestarblue

(9,985 posts)
2. Results have shown that female leaders have had better virus control.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:14 AM
Sep 2020

Jacinda Ardern of New Zealand and Angela Merkel of Germany have both been praised for their strict policies and better-than-average results. Now the Democratic governor of Maine has shown that following the rules works. Gina Raimondo of Rhode Island has also been a strong leader. She set up a statewide testing program for students and staff so schools could reopen safely. The state has had several days with no new cases or deaths.

I hope the next time Trump mouths off about Democrats running states poorly some reporter has the guts to throw the facts about Maine and Rhode Island in his face—also the fact that the states with the highest number of cases today are Republican states of Florida, Louisiana, and Mississippi. Several Midwestern states are also experiencing big outbreaks.

Ohiogal

(31,989 posts)
4. It's very true
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:38 AM
Sep 2020

Women leaders are just better at this kind of thing.

The knuckle draggers see anything being concerned with the health and well being of the entire populace as “weak” “librul” and “taking away muh God given rights”.

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
6. Michigan is also doing well in recovery, I see. Another female governor.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:46 AM
Sep 2020

Michigan is ranked #10 best in recovery.

JT45242

(2,267 posts)
8. Wish it were that simple -- Gov Kimmy of Iowa
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:23 AM
Sep 2020

The deciding factor is not gender -- it is the knowledge or humility to listen to scientists rather than loyalty to a single political figure.

Gov Kimmy (Reynolds) of Iowa -- who was elected to Lt Gov without a college degree and olnly completed her degree while having taxpayers pay for it while she should have been working doing whatever that job is -- is a Trump humping science denier. Joni Ernst, our Senator, is a trump humping science denier.

It is about listening to experts -- Cuomo did it in NY. The Republican in Ohio got ahead of it before political pressure led him to go sideways.

If you put country/state/county well being over politics -- whether a man or woman -- you will handle this better.

The truth is most Republicans in power with allegiance to Trump are White and Male so that does skew the stupidly following an idiot toward white males are idiots (look at the Senate Republican photo or today;s toons).


IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
9. SD Gov Kristi Noem is among the worst
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:30 AM
Sep 2020

she encouraged the Sturgis super spreader event to really make the pandemic great again

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
14. And Democratic men have been doing a great job managing this pandemic
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:49 AM
Sep 2020

just like male leaders of several Asian countries. Liberal and scientific vs conservative and stubbornly stupid is a bigger factor in leadership than gender.

plimsoll

(1,668 posts)
7. Washington's doing pretty well too.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:15 AM
Sep 2020

It’s more about not taking a knee jerk anti science reaction to every issue than being a woman. Things wouldn’t be better with Anne Coulter In charge for example.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
10. I agree with you there,
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:33 AM
Sep 2020

Last edited Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:28 PM - Edit history (2)

although I think in some ways the women are a little more conscientious because a lot of them are the first woman to hold the office ever. Mills is the first female governor of Maine. They have something to prove still... that woman are equally good leaders. They have to be better to get respect. Seems kind of crappy that is the case, but it is. Hillary Clinton is a prime example of this, of course. She would be president right now if she was a man. She was held to a much higher standard than Trump. But definitely, this has more to do with being a leader that will listen to the medical professions and scientists.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
13. I think Maine also benefits from being our geographical attic.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:43 AM
Sep 2020

There's lots of magical and wonderful things up there, but people often forget about it and don't visit often, and there's no through traffic like a cul-de-sac.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
15. Do they restrict travel from other states during this pandemic?
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:55 AM
Sep 2020

If not, I'd like to drive up there from DC for a social distance vacation at some point.

maineac

(17 posts)
16. I think most of the restrictions are voluntary
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:41 AM
Sep 2020

There has been an uptick in the past two weeks. We are now averaging around 20 new cases a day with over 40 today. Gov. Mills did a great job. We are going out to eat tonight in a tent in Blue Hill.
Here is the current travel info:

https://www.maine.gov/covid19/restartingmaine/keepmainehealthy/faqs
Relatives from DC entering the state had test results but they were never checked.

Fall temps, and in the mid-coast leaves are just starting to change.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
23. Well, yeah because it is very hard to enforce
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:26 PM
Sep 2020

But if you aren't from NJ, NY, CT, NH, or VT, you are supposed to either have a recent negative COVID-19 test or self quarantine for two weeks. I know there have been lots of MA people up here though, like always. I think a lot of the visitors have been staying away in general.. going to camps and such... and being pretty good about wearing masks.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
20. Tourism is pretty big in Maine in the summer
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:17 PM
Sep 2020

Acadia National Park attracts visitors from all over the world. I went there for a couple days this summer and the parking was insane because they weren't running the park buses. Also, very long wait to get a table a restaurant in Bar Harbor on week day night. Still, way less visitors this year I think because of the Canadian border closing. Maine is typically brimming with Canadian tourists in the summer, but they weren't allowed to visit this year.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
32. I agree, Maine is beautiful!
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 02:33 PM
Sep 2020

I was there once, and got to get right down by the ocean among huge boulders and listen to the sound of the rocks.

Also had one of the best seafood meals there ever, and I'm not a huge lobster fan.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
33. Fried clams with the bellies and
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 02:37 PM
Sep 2020

scallops (prefer baked with scallops) are my favorite. I think lobster is too much of pain to eat. It's alright taste wise, but not my favorite.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
34. Yes: I enjoy an occasional lobster tail...
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 02:40 PM
Sep 2020

but a whole lobster can be more trouble than it's worth. Give me crab legs or scampi instead!

augyboston

(193 posts)
17. I live in Maine...
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:41 AM
Sep 2020

I live in Maine and Governor Mills has been all we could ask for during this pandemic. She has refused to buckle under pressure from these idiots who love tRump and yearn for the "good old days" of that moron LeRage (as I like to call him).

LeRage is back up here from Florida; where he really lives (no income tax!) and making noise about running against her. I can't wait for that because Janet will kick his sorry ass back to Florida for good!

Hat's off to Dr. Shah the head of the Maine CDC as well.

BumRushDaShow

(128,920 posts)
19. "LeRage is back up here from Florida;"
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:09 AM
Sep 2020

It's been such a pleasure to not have LePlague's (that's what I call him ) name in the news. I hope he goes away.

BumRushDaShow

(128,920 posts)
22. Yeah
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:21 PM
Sep 2020

he, like Arpaio, made sure to be a side-show act in the midst of the cacophony of the GOP 3-ring circus.

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
25. There are flat out inaccuracies here....
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:38 PM
Sep 2020
They point to the state's low infection rate, as well as the fact that Maine didn't rush to re-open, as factors."


Maine does not have a low infection rate. Maine is on the list of states you have to quarantine from if you travel fro there to MA. It is a high infection rate zone.

They also didn't not rush to re-open. Vacation Land simply became Pandemic Land. Sorry Mainer's, you opened way too quickly - or at least they opened in a way you didn't intend.

Wedding venues, camps, and resort communities are full steam ahead, which is why your economy rebounded.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
26. No, that is not true.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:42 PM
Sep 2020

Maine has 1.02% infection rate and .6% positivity rate. MA is on the list of states that are supposed to do the two week quarantine to come to Maine.

http://covidactnow.org/us/me?s=1051226

MA's own website says that Maine is a low risk state.
https://www.mass.gov/info-details/covid-19-travel-order#lower-risk-states-

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
28. that is a deceptive statistic...
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:52 PM
Sep 2020

Your rate of increase is very high, and your population is spread out, so testing isn't consistent. Also, a large portion of your population is transient - they live somewhere else. Their infections are tracing back to maine.

Mass isn't punishing Maine for no good reason. Your stats indicate a risk level that is higher than acceptable for the region, so you people coming from there have to Quarantine. Same for RI.

MA isn't making this up. They are controlling risk.

Vacation Land sends home lots of souvenirs. Accept it.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
30. We have a good testing rate.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:55 PM
Sep 2020

I don't know what you are talking about.

http://covidactnow.org/us/me?s=1051226
"COVID in Maine is spreading in a slow and controlled fashion, and Maine’s COVID preparedness meets international standards."

MA isn't punishing ME. Mainers are not restricted from going to MA.
https://www.mass.gov/info-details/covid-19-travel-order#lower-risk-states-

"Travelers from COVID-19 lower-risk States are not required to fill out the Massachusetts Travel Form and do not need to quarantine. States are included on the list based on meeting two criteria: average daily cases per 100K below 6 AND positive test rate below 5%, both measured as a 7-day rolling average. Data is from covidexitstrategy.org as of September 9, 2020.

The current list of COVID-19 lower-risk states includes:

Colorado
Connecticut
Maine
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
Oregon
Vermont
Washington
Wyoming
"

mainer

(12,022 posts)
31. Where do you see that Massachusetts is punishing Maine?
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:58 PM
Sep 2020

It says on the MA site that Maine is a low-risk state that doesn't require quarantining. Are you looking on a different official Massachusetts website?

In cases/million population, only Vermont is lower than us.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

mainer

(12,022 posts)
27. What? You must be writing about the wrong state.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:48 PM
Sep 2020


We have a low infection rate. Mainers traveling elsewhere don't have to quarantine. But if you come TO Maine from OTHER high-infection states, yes, you have to quarantine.

Our indoor event venues are limited to 50 people. Recently there was a wedding in Millinocket where they violated the state rules and that led to an outbreak -- but that was because the idiots violated the rules.

We are definitely not pandemic land.
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