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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:37 PM Oct 2012

Breaking: CBS News Poll of 500 Uncommitted Voters Gives Biden 50% Edge to Ryan 31%

Source: CBS News

OCTOBER 11, 2012

Poll of uncommitted voters gives Biden 50% edge over Ryan, 31%

A CBS News/GFK poll of 500 uncommitted voters found 50% thought Biden won the vice-presidential debate, 31% favored Ryan and 19% thought it was a tie.


Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50132981n&tag=breakingnews



http://www.cbsnews.com/2718-250_162-1958/campaign-2012-the-debates
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Breaking: CBS News Poll of 500 Uncommitted Voters Gives Biden 50% Edge to Ryan 31% (Original Post) Hissyspit Oct 2012 OP
WTF is it with these idiots refusing to give Democrats over 50%??? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #1
The undecided voters? Maybe some republiCON voters seeing the light? alp227 Oct 2012 #13
I think they are puposly shifting the numbers to "tie" just to keep the "win" down. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #16
What is it with Yahoo? Left Coast2020 Oct 2012 #19
Yahoo has been a cesspool for Right Wingers for a while. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #20
Holy spit, great news! Permanut Oct 2012 #2
"Edge"? "Bludgeon" might be more appropriate. nt wtmusic Oct 2012 #3
Then we know who talked more to the "average guy" I suppose. Fearless Oct 2012 #4
Biden simply kicked Ryan's ass-handed it to him-kicked Ryan's ass again-now git outta here lyin Ryan LaPera Oct 2012 #5
Ah, CBS! I read earlier that cbs gave it to Biden.. Cha Oct 2012 #6
Uncommitted Voter? CALANN Oct 2012 #7
That's what we're fighting for now. progressoid Oct 2012 #9
I read that Bill Maher said tsuki Oct 2012 #14
Oh, that's a good one..... llmart Oct 2012 #26
hahahha wordpix Oct 2012 #30
LOL cheezmaka Oct 2012 #39
In other news... HR_Pufnstuf Oct 2012 #8
Probably from one of the last Gulf Sperm Whales tessar Oct 2012 #10
Oh my Lilma Oct 2012 #11
glad to know there are still some monster fish in the sea wordpix Oct 2012 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author MadDash Oct 2012 #12
Joe didn't let any of the lies get past him without straightening out young Ryan. Major Hogwash Oct 2012 #15
Oh for Pete's sake spiderpig Oct 2012 #17
19 percent is an "Edge" itsrobert Oct 2012 #18
Ryan did better than I thought he would jmowreader Oct 2012 #21
How the Hype Became Bigger Than the Presidential Election crunch60 Oct 2012 #22
+1 Savannahmann Oct 2012 #23
Both candidates? How would you know which two without poll? A Simple Game Oct 2012 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author JackN415 Oct 2012 #25
"Undies" - great term. These "lo-info" voters have a problems with cause and effect: byeya Oct 2012 #28
low info voters should just stay the hell away from the polls if they don't care to know the issues wordpix Oct 2012 #32
So 19% is now an 'edge'? sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #27
Out of the ballpark. disndat Oct 2012 #29
Repubs not liking this one Kingofalldems Oct 2012 #33
Sweet! Remmah2 Oct 2012 #34
Uncommitted voters matt819 Oct 2012 #35
They like the Dems, but... Alekei_Firebird Oct 2012 #36
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2012 #37
Gives Biden 50% EDGE over ryan??? 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #38
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I GIVE YOU drynberg Oct 2012 #40
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
16. I think they are puposly shifting the numbers to "tie" just to keep the "win" down.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 12:21 AM
Oct 2012

It's like when we keep hearing poll numbers for Obama at 50% and Romney at 38%. We're supposed to believe the remaining 12% is in the air. I don't buy it. I believe all it takes is for a few Liberals to say they aren't completely happy with Obama and BOOM! They jump on that to lower his total. It's not like those people will either stay home or vote for Romney.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
20. Yahoo has been a cesspool for Right Wingers for a while.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:23 AM
Oct 2012

I guess the AOL people needed to go somewhere...

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
4. Then we know who talked more to the "average guy" I suppose.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:44 PM
Oct 2012

He did come across much more personable than Ryan. He was like your father at Thanksgiving.

LaPera

(6,486 posts)
5. Biden simply kicked Ryan's ass-handed it to him-kicked Ryan's ass again-now git outta here lyin Ryan
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:47 PM
Oct 2012

And tell habitual liar Romney the same thing....BUT>>>>>

Tomorrow Romney spin in front of a crowd and cameras will hold up Ryan's hand like a champion and pretend Ryan won the debate. LOL!

What a complete joke and lie - not even subjective nor semantics here.....

Clearly to ANY honest intelligent thinking person Vice President Biden absolutely no doubt won the debate throughly & completely.

Cha

(297,401 posts)
6. Ah, CBS! I read earlier that cbs gave it to Biden..
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:49 PM
Oct 2012

Which is a Heckava lot better than a Freaking Bizzaro World Draw.

CALANN

(5 posts)
7. Uncommitted Voter?
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:49 PM
Oct 2012

I think it was Bill Maher that said that if our are an undecided voter now that you should stay home because you would not be able to find the voting poll anyway.

progressoid

(49,992 posts)
9. That's what we're fighting for now.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:55 PM
Oct 2012

The dregs. The scraps. The ones that will end up voting for the cute one.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
31. glad to know there are still some monster fish in the sea
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:30 AM
Oct 2012

most of those fished are juveniles now b/c there are no grandaddies left

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Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
15. Joe didn't let any of the lies get past him without straightening out young Ryan.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 12:15 AM
Oct 2012

Ryan has a hellova future ahead of him, selling fertilizer.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
17. Oh for Pete's sake
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 12:50 AM
Oct 2012

Do we need any more evidence of the dumbing down of America?

It should have been 99% to 1. I'm going to the kitchen to make a sandwich.

jmowreader

(50,561 posts)
21. Ryan did better than I thought he would
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:12 AM
Oct 2012

Biden was nice enough to wrap Ryan's ass in white paper and label it before he handed it to him. I didn't think he would do that

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
22. How the Hype Became Bigger Than the Presidential Election
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:27 AM
Oct 2012

New rule; no poll numbers allowed.....

The campaign should start and finish in six weeks, and there should be free TV access to both candidates. And it should be illegal to publish poll numbers. This isn't as crazy as it sounds – they actually had such a law in Russia while I lived there, and people were much happier. (Well, they were still miserable, because they were Russian, but at least they weren't stressing about poll numbers.) Think about it: Banning poll numbers would force the media to actually cover the issues. As it stands now, the horse race is the entire story – I can think of a couple of cable networks that would have to go completely dark tomorrow, as in Dan-Rather-

Dead-Fucking-Air dark, if they had to come up with even 10 seconds of news content that wasn't centered on who was winning. That's the dirtiest secret we in the media have kept from you over the years: Most of us suck so badly at our jobs, and are so uninterested in delving into any polysyllabic subject, that we would literally have to put down our shovels and go home if we didn't have poll numbers we can use to terrify our audiences. Can you imagine if your favorite news network had to do stories like, "What is the Overseas Private Investment Corporation up to, and what do each of the candidates think about it?" That would be like asking Nineties-era baseball players to take the field without popping greenies – what, you mean play the game sober? Half the on-air talent would have to resign, or do ad work hawking reverse mortgages.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-the-hype-became-bigger-than-the-presidential-election-20121009#ixzz293zb5d73

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
24. Both candidates? How would you know which two without poll?
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:13 AM
Oct 2012

Don't get me wrong I agree with you, especially on the 6 week part. But it should be free air time to any candidate with a party affiliation.

There are much better choices than what the two major parties throw at us every four years. With some air time and no access to debates we could really have some choices. I feel the major parties are a big part of the problems we have today.

And run off elections within one week of the general election.

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byeya

(2,842 posts)
28. "Undies" - great term. These "lo-info" voters have a problems with cause and effect:
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:14 AM
Oct 2012

That is simply, they don't get it, don't understand it as a fact of life, and are therefore open to manipulation by those who control the political economy.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
32. low info voters should just stay the hell away from the polls if they don't care to know the issues
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:34 AM
Oct 2012

These are the people who'll vote for R&R b/c Ryan is "cute" or b/c "my father was a Repub"

disndat

(1,887 posts)
29. Out of the ballpark.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:27 AM
Oct 2012

Not even close. It seems like the msm got together to play down Biden's outstanding performance last night.
The first early morning report from CNN and CBS gave the debate to Ryan, but I see that CBS is moderating that a little and now giving Biden "an edge." I guess CBS doesn't want to lose credibility all together.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
35. Uncommitted voters
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:47 AM
Oct 2012

What a load of crap!

If you're uncommitted, then you haven't been paying attention. What is it you want to hear that you haven't already heard? The only excuse for being uncommitted is being in a coma. Heck, people in comas are probably more committed than these undecided voters. You'd have to be in a persistent vegetative state to be uncommitted at this point.

My message to the uncommitted voter: Grow the fuck up.

As for the independents, that might have been okay 10, 20, or 30 years ago. Not any more. Too much is at stake. My guess? Independent voters are actually Republicans too ashamed to identify themselves as such but so intellectually stunted that they can't make the switch to vote D. It's pathetic when you read about the so-called independent voter or the ever-dwindling mainstream Republican talk about what they would like to see in their R candidates. What they are looking for is the platform of the Dems, but they lack the integrity to acknowledge that.

Alekei_Firebird

(320 posts)
36. They like the Dems, but...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:18 AM
Oct 2012

But they think that the Dems are the party for minorities. It's a party that wants to take away freedom away from average white people by taking away what little privileges average white people have left. Freedom is a zero-sum resource, and if others have, one's own freedom is diminished.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
38. Gives Biden 50% EDGE over ryan???
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:47 AM
Oct 2012
So if we're running a 100 meter race and I beat you by 38 meters ... I'd say, and you would have to admit, I beat you by more than an edge.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
40. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I GIVE YOU
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 04:58 PM
Oct 2012

Joe Biden, who pulled out a big ole can o'asswhip and applied it generously for 90 minutes. And the whole Nation was watching...oh yeah, even if they deny what the saw, they saw and heard it clearly. Now I hope the President was taking notes on taking names and kicking RW asses. The Truth shall WIN.

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