Longtime GOP Senate moderate Arlen Specter dies
Source: Associated Press
Longtime GOP Senate moderate Arlen Specter dies
By PETER JACKSON, Associated Press 2 minutes ago
HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) Former U.S. Sen. Arlen Specter, the outspoken Pennsylvania centrist whose switch from Republican to Democrat ended a 30-year career in which he played a pivotal role in several Supreme Court nominations, died Sunday. He was 82.
Specter, who announced in late August that he was battling cancer, died at his home in Philadelphia from complications of non-Hodgkins lymphoma, said his son Shanin. Over the years, Arlen Specter had fought two previous bouts with Hodgkin's disease, overcome a brain tumor and survived cardiac arrest following bypass surgery.
Specter rose to prominence in the 1960s as an aggressive Philadelphia prosecutor and as an assistant counsel to the Warren Commission, developing the single-bullet theory that posited just one bullet struck both President Kennedy and Texas Gov. John Connally an assumption critical to the argument that presidential assassin Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. The theory remains controversial and was the focus of Oliver Stone's 1991 movie "JFK."
In 1987, Specter helped thwart the Supreme Court nomination of former federal appeals Judge Robert H. Bork earning him conservative enemies who still bitterly refer to such rejections as being "borked."
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GrantDem
(1,791 posts)babylonsister
(171,066 posts)fighting a long time. Rest in peace, Sen. Specter.
tblue
(16,350 posts)Certainly the cream of this crappy crop.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)My best memory of him was during the Senate hearings on the Ruby Ridge shooting, he hammered the ATF for the fuck ups that led to the siege.
He will be missed.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)RIP Arlen
sasha031
(6,700 posts)MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)He suffered a long time -
Peace
spinbaby
(15,090 posts)One of the last moderate Republicans.
MgtPA
(1,022 posts)Other issues aside, he was always good for Pennsylvania.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)instead of the guy who was actually lying - Clarence Thomas. f him
JSK
(1,123 posts)< Specter was the attack dog for the Republicans, fiercely laying into Anita Hill again and again. He led the strategy to label Hill nutty and slutty, the Republicans key tactic to discredit Hill as mentally unstable and promiscuous. Watching his slash and burn technique against Hill, who didnt come forward voluntarily but was subpoenaed to appear, filled me with a rage I have rarely felt before or since.>
http://msmagazine.com/blog/blog/2010/05/26/this-one%E2%80%99s-for-you-anita-hill/
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts).... no good he ever could have done could have made up for the despicable way he treated Anita Hill.
Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)Anita Hill was remarkably calm through the whole awful attack. She's one of my heroes.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)that's what I remember of him also...he's mostly responsible for us having that fuckstain Clarence Thomas on the court. Also wasn't he the creater of the "majic bullet" theory regarding the assassination of Pres. John F. Kennedy?
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)you, you two bit freak show.
ancianita
(36,060 posts)but that man lived too damned long. I detested him.
PlanetBev
(4,104 posts)Rest well, Sir.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)And maybe that experience helped him to understand how important health care reform is. He not only supported Obamacare, but also supported a public option.
Cirque du So-What
(25,939 posts)is the way they keep becoming...fewer.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Gothmog
(145,291 posts)He was a great man.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Ninga
(8,275 posts)SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)but I cannot forget what he did to Anita Hill nor can I wish him peaceful rest. Sorry.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)Cross gently, Senator.
Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)No fan here (Anita), but not a bad person. Joyous over at Fox, no doubt.
Duval
(4,280 posts)triplepoint
(431 posts)Maybe he'll have a posthumous memoir (like the late Senator Ted Kennedy did: "True Compass" where he retracts his "Single Bullet Theory."
Unbelievable how pristine the bullet is. You can be sure that ALL fingerprints have been wiped from it by now....if it can EVEN be found in the National Archives...AT ALL!!
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)lib2DaBone
(8,124 posts)He knew who killed JFK and why..... but he chose the dark side.
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)true Republican government servants. RIP, Senator Specter, & best wishes and condolences to your family.
Patiod
(11,816 posts)In the days after Katrina hit, I got more and more upset, even though i live no where nearby. We had two Senators at the time - Specter and that awful Santorum person.
I called Specter's office crying, and said to the staffer who answered, "listen, that idiot in the White House is letting people die. Your boss is a good man even if he is a Republican. Please tell him he has to do something about this because our useless President won't". I was crying. It was not like me. The poor woman tried to calm me down, but I was too frustrated and angry.
I left my name, and wonder if they put it in some sort of "crank" file...
proud patriot
(100,706 posts)wishes of condolences to his loved ones .
TahitiNut
(71,611 posts)Condolences to his family. May he rest in peace.
scarletlib
(3,411 posts)krawhitham
(4,644 posts)When he switched he voted with us on every issue but one.
Blue State Bandit
(2,122 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)And I'll leave it at that.
AAO
(3,300 posts)Didn't your mama teach you that? (and yes, I'm j/k)
kooljerk666
(776 posts)I live in PA & voted for him several times when I was young 1980's era & not so well informed, funny he ended up being the last sane republican.
In fact when he was the DA, he was a news fixture for many years in Philly, see him at dinner, like a few times a week. These were dark times with no remotes or mute. Arlen & Frank Rizzo were like superhero crime fighters back in the days, of crime in streets.
He was reasonable up to the end & better than some bluedogs, pro choice, nothing nutty stands out i really remember. Lots of ok GOP non teabags are gone & the nuts run the asylum.
He looked brilliant & like a liberal next to Santorum.
If Arlen was a Senator, corebutt would name a succesor, give ya the chills huh? A Koch bro prob has a basement like rmoneys MASS. basement in every state, and pays taxes in none & votes in them all.
richmwill
(1,326 posts)One of the few sane Republicans, one who I actually liked.
wisteria
(19,581 posts)Crowman1979
(3,844 posts)You know the one in which he yelled at them to: WAIT A MINUTE!
guappo1
(53 posts)His actions as a U.S. Senator proved with out question that he was a True American, he set aside party politic to do what he though was right for citizens of this country.
The country owes Senator Specter a great debt buy keeping Bork off the Supreme Court. He will be missed.
kath
(10,565 posts)russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)He was a weasel.
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russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)he caused way more harm than good!
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)"Of course it is necessary to specify how, exactly,
conspiracy theories begin.. Some such theories seem to bubble up spontaneously,
appearing roughly simultaneously in many different social networks; others are initiated
and spread, quite intentionally, by conspiracy entrepreneurs who profit directly or
indirectly from propagating their theories."
~snip~
"Some conspiracy entrepreneurs are entirely sincere;
others are interested in money or power, or in achieving some general social goal."
Conspiracy Theories
Cass R. Sunstein
Adrian Vermeule
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OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)Conversely, the false belief in
Santa Claus is justified, because children generally have good reason to believe what
their parents tell them and follow a sensible heuristic (if my parents say it, it is probably
true); when children realize that Santa is the product of a widespread conspiracy among
parents, they have a justified and true belief that a conspiracy has been at work.
~snip~
On one reading of Poppers account, those who accept conspiracy
theories are following a sensible heuristic, to the effect that consequences are intended;
that heuristic often works well but it also produces systematic errors, especially in the
context of outcomes that are a product of social interactions among numerous people.
The magic bullet theory is strengthened by the reputation of Specter and Warren commission, despite the systematic errors relative to the pristine nature of the bullet and the damage it caused.
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ancianita
(36,060 posts)This is the man who gave the media the idea that public bullshit is plausible news. His mischief contributed to the deterioration of trust both by the public and of the public in government's role at getting at the truth.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)When he made a bid for the White House in 1995, he denounced the Christian right as an extremist fringe an unorthodox tactic for a candidate trying to win votes in a Republican primary.
During Mr. Clintons impeachment on charges of perjury and obstruction, Mr. Specter, objecting to what he called a sham trial without witnesses, signaled that he would vote to acquit.
He enraged conservatives in 1987 by derailing Judge Borks nomination to the Supreme Court.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/us/politics/arlen-specter-senator-dies-at-82.html?hp
Sure, we could cite the other side of the question. His party was so angry at him that he indeed ending up voting "not proven" rather than "not guilty." But at least he didn't cave. And yes, the rage of his party against him for tanking Bork, caused him next time around to vote for Thomas. And then, of course, there was Anita Hill. But not everyone has held that against him unto eternity:
"I have the utmost respect for Arlen Specter," said Charles Ogletree, the liberal Harvard law professor who helped lead Hill's legal team at the hearings. After a period of mutual enmity after the Hill hearings, "We've become the best of friends." Ogletree said that Specter had "very progressive views on judicial appointments."
http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-arlen-specter-20121015,0,3463184.story?page=2
Take any senator who served as long as he did, and you will find both pluses and minuses. That's true even for Teddy Kennedy, who made some big mistakes as well. Let both of them rest in peace.
Gemini Cat
(2,820 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)D23MIURG23
(2,850 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Vidar
(18,335 posts)JI7
(89,250 posts)rather than become some lobbyist.
CBHagman
(16,984 posts)And my sympathy to all his family and friends.
DemKittyNC
(743 posts)I don't know who this is but I hate to hear anyone passing on no matter what side they played for.
Astazia
(262 posts)About a year ago he went to a comedy club in PA on "open mike night". No pun intended here but he went on stage & killed! He was so funny! Lawrence O'Donnell read about it online and had the reporter that happened to be there on TLW. He (Sen. Spector) just did what anyone does at an open mike night. He gave his first name & waited his turn. (did stand-up myself once upon a time) His jokes were original and his timing was on the money. I was blown away.
So dear Arlen, rest in peace & if you see Teddy or the likes of Groucho or Henny, say hi for us.
from us to your family.
Demonaut
(8,918 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Problematic sometimes (Anita Hill) but had my respect when he became more moderate.
Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)Left Coast2020
(2,397 posts)Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)that wingnut from Club for Growth has his seat now
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)He had the good sense to leave the know nothing party and join normal people in the Senate.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)ancianita
(36,060 posts)I'm not trolling. I'm telling you seriously: I've experienced Arlen Spector's entire career and must say that he was an overall bad leader who lived too trouble-free and anonymous a life for his traitorous single bullet theory and all the mischief, sickness and grief he caused this country.
So what if he helped stop Bork and gave hell to a few others. He was a major reason that public bullshit first started getting public traction in our media. If I ever met the man I'd tell him just how much I hate his role in ruining this country's search for the truth, in so many ways, at so many times. You have to have lived through his treacherous behavior to say what I'm saying. Good riddance.
The rest of you who didn't live through his political past can carry on and take the high road about him.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)don't forget he was #1 in the senate attempting to toss Bill Clinton out after the house impeachment went through
may you Rest in Peace President Kennedy and your son, Senator Bobby, Senator Teddy.
and rest in peace Mr Jim a poster from another board who died of cancer a few years back in his 40s leaving a wife and kids. (who enjoyed talking about this topic but not any other oddity, just this one). A smarter man I never knew.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)before the election...
qanda
(10,422 posts)Cha
(297,275 posts)Hepburn
(21,054 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)Pat Speer
(38 posts)The middle part of the discussion at the link below is a thorough dissection of whether or not Arlen Specter lied when pushing his single-bullet theory.
http://www.patspeer.com/chapter10%3Aexaminingtheexaminations
The evidence is clear that he did. We can only hope he told someone--perhaps his son Shanin--why.