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elleng

(130,952 posts)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:40 PM Oct 2012

Head of CEO Group Urges Compromise on U.S. Fiscal Cliff.

Source: NYT/reuters

Arguing that business uncertainty over Washington's year-end "fiscal cliff" is choking off hiring and investment, the head of the most prominent CEO lobbying group on Monday called on Congress to compromise on tax cuts, spending cuts and revenues.

Business Roundtable president John Engler, a former Republican governor of Michigan, joined a growing chorus of chief executives imploring Congress to set aside partisan arguments and reach a deal to put the United States on a firm fiscal footing.

In a speech prepared for delivery to the Detroit Economic Club, he said that many chief executives are encouraging talks among Democratic and Republican Senators to develop a new deficit-cutting plan based on the 2010 Bowles-Simpson commission, which prescribed a mix of revenue increases and spending cuts.



Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2012/10/15/business/15reuters-usa-congress-cliff.html?hp

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totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
1. The way our government runs, compromise is necessary. But it must be a legitimate and fair
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:49 PM
Oct 2012

compromise. Too often in the past the GOP's idea of "compromise" is my way or the highway. Yes the Dems should compromise but they can't bargain away basic Democratic principles such as a viable social safety net.

So I am not very optimistic. Even if President Obama is reelected as I expect the GOP will almost certainly have enough votes in the Senate to mount filibusters. And some observers including Nate Silver are predicting that they will retain control of the House. Unfortunately I see more gridlock ahead.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
4. Why not compromise with top tax rates returning to the conservative historic ones of Eisenhower? `
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 04:23 PM
Oct 2012

Include effective corporate rates returning to the historic average for the 20'th century?
Include tariffs on all imported goods and services to protect all those good paying Merikan jobs?

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
17. OK make the top rate 80% Make Companies pay at least 33% of the total and return to
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:09 PM
Oct 2012

job creating Tariffs on all imports. If we just add a Financial Transactions Tax on all stock/bond/derivative/future trades
we only have to lift the CAP on SSI to be golden.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
7. That Catfood Commission will BE the "compromise".........
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:19 PM
Oct 2012

I've seen it coming for a while now. Of course, it's not a compromise. It's just the working class paying for the failure of capitalism. Again.

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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
9. As predicted here:
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:30 PM
Oct 2012
http://nymag.com/news/politics/elections-2012/obama-romney-economic-plans-2012-10/index5.html

This is all utterly wrong. Bipartisan agreement is not necessary to fix the debt. Nothing is necessary to fix the debt. It is as if the network of activists, wonks, business leaders, and Beltway elder statesmen who have devoted themselves to building cross-party support for a deficit deal have grown more attached to the means of bipartisanship than to the ends for which it was intended. The budget deficit is a legislatively solved problem. It is, indeed, an oversolved problem. In the absence of any agreement between the president and Congress, the deficit will shrink to less than one percent of the economy by 2018, and remain below that level through 2022. The budget deficit declines so sharply and so drastically, and in ways that neither party is entirely comfortable with, that the task for Washington is to pull back on deficit reduction.

It’s true that should all this come to pass and Congress does nothing at all, allowing all automatic deficit reductions to stay permanently, then our economy would be hit by a powerful shock—a massive anti-stimulus. This is the outcome that terrifies moderate liberals like Howard Fineman, who warns that the nation is about to “go over the fiscal cliff with no hang glider.”

But here is a case where a bad metaphor has caused everybody to think about the matter in exactly the wrong way. When you walk off a cliff, the first step is your last. There is no such thing as falling halfway down a cliff. But the “fiscal cliff” is not a cliff at all. The economic damage is cumulative. It is the opposite of the debt ceiling, when the doomsday clock ticked down to a moment of sudden calamity. A full year of inaction would do a lot of damage, but a week, a month, or even a couple of months would not. The president would have enough control over the mechanics of the budget to delay the effects of higher taxes and spending cuts in order to cushion the blow to the economy. Even if the tax hikes and spending cuts go into effect, any deal that gets signed later could be retroactive. Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve could also take emergency action to keep the recovery afloat.

It’s not certain that Obama will have the fortitude to make it to January without surrendering to demands to cut a deal. He will have to endure a concerted persuasion campaign by the business lobby and the cries of the fiscal scolds, which will grow to a deafening volume by December. But if he does, Obama will have a stronger hand than he has had at any time before. On the eve of his inauguration, he will find himself holding the political high ground in the midst of a perceived economic crisis. He will demand that Republicans retreat on their refusal to increase taxes on the rich, and join him at the table.

theKed

(1,235 posts)
10. Nailed it
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:38 PM
Oct 2012

He just needs to keep the game of fiscal chicken he's playing low profile until he's elected, then fist the corporatist bastards.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
16. I was thinking today, if it went down that way ...
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:00 AM
Oct 2012

in retrospect it sure would look like 11-dimensional chess.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
13. The "fiscal cliff" IS the compromise
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 09:11 AM
Oct 2012

Now that they haven't been able to force things their way, the rethugs want to renege on the compromise that they agreed to.

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