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MissMarple

(9,656 posts)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:40 PM Oct 2012

Report: Charity President Objects To Paul Ryan’s Soup Kitchen Photo Op

Source: Talking Points Memo

Brian J. Antal, the president of an Ohio charity for the homeless, is objecting to a photo op staged by the Romney campaign on Saturday that featured vice presidential running mate Paul Ryan washing pots and pans that had already appeared to be clean, Felicia Sonmez of the Washington Post reports:


“We’re a faith-based organization; we are apolitical because the majority of our funding is from private donations,” Antal said in a phone interview Monday afternoon. “It’s strictly in our bylaws not to do it. They showed up there and they did not have permission. They got one of the volunteers to open up the doors.”

He added: “The photo-op they did wasn’t even accurate. He did nothing. He just came in here to get his picture taken at the dining hall.”
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“Had they asked for permission, it wouldn’t have been granted. … But I certainly wouldn’t have let him wash clean pans and then take a picture,” Antal told the Post.


Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/report-charity-president-objects-to-paul-ryans-soup



TPM got this from the Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/15/charity-president-unhappy-about-paul-ryan-soup-kitchen-photo-op/?print=1
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Report: Charity President Objects To Paul Ryan’s Soup Kitchen Photo Op (Original Post) MissMarple Oct 2012 OP
Heh. tanyev Oct 2012 #1
There is a God. MissMarple Oct 2012 #3
We'll know that if Obama wins. calimary Oct 2012 #6
Ahem... Liberalagogo Oct 2012 #12
Yep, There Is A God itssimplestupid Oct 2012 #10
Ah, truth. A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2012 #2
Why make a show of feeding 'takers/parasites?' Ayn Rand is spinning in her grave now... freshwest Oct 2012 #36
Well, that won't make the nightly news! mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #4
Got that right.. Until we push this hard on the social networks. freshwest Oct 2012 #37
K&R n/t Tx4obama Oct 2012 #5
PUT THIS ON MSNBC NOW! flamingdem Oct 2012 #7
Ed Show just ran with it! Dustlawyer Oct 2012 #42
If donations drop to this organization as a result of Antal speaking out, then DUers Justice Oct 2012 #8
How, with all the security involved, does Ryan just show up and get let in by a volunteer? HereSince1628 Oct 2012 #9
This is from the WP link. MissMarple Oct 2012 #18
I saw it. I don't believe it. HereSince1628 Oct 2012 #21
Good point about the Secret Service. MissMarple Oct 2012 #26
Only on Lyin' Ryan's opportunistic team. St. Vincent De Paul's doesn't employ security. freshwest Oct 2012 #28
Not st vinnies. PAUL RYAN's security. HereSince1628 Oct 2012 #29
They were the ones who blustered their way in. Typical. freshwest Oct 2012 #32
I am sure it was an inside job, they called earlier or something. Good thing the head called him Dustlawyer Oct 2012 #38
that's what I think, too SemperEadem Oct 2012 #55
Weasel. Weaselweaselweaselweaselweasel!!! nolabear Oct 2012 #11
Hey now, I've known plenty of weasels in my day and... bluesbassman Oct 2012 #19
Let me be the first, that's not fair.... daleanime Oct 2012 #20
Hello MSM ... Hello ... Is anyone there? ... HELLO! ... Hello? Bozita Oct 2012 #13
Perfect! mimi85 Oct 2012 #14
And bringing his children to this photo-op shows what bad parents Mr. & Mrs. Ryan are. If they had sad sally Oct 2012 #15
This reveals Ryan's lack of character. madaboutharry Oct 2012 #16
The kids have to learn to lie just like dadddy and distain REALLY helping the needy lunasun Oct 2012 #23
this is what a fine president does wordpix Oct 2012 #51
As one who REALLY washes dishes... Ino Oct 2012 #17
true ThomThom Oct 2012 #30
That was the first thing I noticed also. He is such a doofus. uppityperson Oct 2012 #33
WHAT? You don't wear your Rolex while scrubbing pots Coyotl Oct 2012 #46
I should have known... speedoo Oct 2012 #22
It's easier to say you're sorry than it is to get permission, especially since some folks aren't patrice Oct 2012 #24
His phoniness is epic! Who can take this guy seriously? Glimmer of Hope Oct 2012 #25
Another week, another ridiculous photo of the Lyin' Ryan. beac Oct 2012 #27
Spread this far and wide! CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #31
The very definition of a "tool". Harry Monroe Oct 2012 #34
Hey Paulie Boy! Burn in hell, you smirking shitstain. Amerigo Vespucci Oct 2012 #35
Good PatSeg Oct 2012 #39
Cool! PatSeg Oct 2012 #40
Worse than W's plastic thanksgiving turkey in Iraq. nt wiggs Oct 2012 #41
Yes it is! burrowowl Oct 2012 #43
The tray faux? MissMarple Oct 2012 #45
Show up late and take credit for work that's already been done - SnowCritter Oct 2012 #44
I'm just guessing here, but was this done for Faux News? Coyotl Oct 2012 #47
"They showed up there and they did not have permission." That says it all. Entitlement. LuckyLib Oct 2012 #48
K&R. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #49
Charity president: Paul Ryan "did nothing" at soup kitchen photo-op (CBS) struggle4progress Oct 2012 #50
this might be something the low information voter can understand wordpix Oct 2012 #52
Kicked and recommended, has FOX "News" or CNN covered this incident yet? Uncle Joe Oct 2012 #53
In the realm of character, or lack of character, this incident is a major TELL Berlum Oct 2012 #54
How low can you go? malthaussen Oct 2012 #56
Stagie bumpkin hee-haw character on the dishwashing job. And he only half washed the soap off that lonestarnot Oct 2012 #57
He is despicable. City Lights Oct 2012 #58
Paul Ryan will be a bigger disaster than Palin was for John McCain. FSogol Oct 2012 #59
Just when i thought it wasn't possible to get any more discusted with these guys.... ermasdaughter Oct 2012 #60
What a Highly Offensive Token Visit, Megahurtz Oct 2012 #61
That's great, but no one but us is going to know about this. Bertha Venation Oct 2012 #62
Ryans stayed 15 minutes left-of-center2012 Oct 2012 #63
st vincent is all over southern wisconsin... madrchsod Oct 2012 #64
Next stop: Habitat for Humanity lebkuchen Oct 2012 #65
Ryan might have pulled the famous slip and fall,standing in those slippery suds. Rain Mcloud Oct 2012 #66

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
36. Why make a show of feeding 'takers/parasites?' Ayn Rand is spinning in her grave now...
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 08:14 PM
Oct 2012

He needs to be forced to define what part of the population is at the soup kitchen. Because he's already defined 30% of Americans to be nothing but 'takers' as Romney has defined 47% of Americans as irresponsible.

It's against Ryan's doctrine to stop them from starving, as they deserve per Rand. He is firmly on the side of 'job creators/producers.' He and Mitt are the epitome of Ayn Rand's 'Supermen.'

About this publicity stunt, I'd ask him:

Why would you encourage the 'takers' at the soup kitchen, instead of telling them to get jobs?

Justice

(7,188 posts)
8. If donations drop to this organization as a result of Antal speaking out, then DUers
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:48 PM
Oct 2012

and other should be ready to send support, if they can.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
9. How, with all the security involved, does Ryan just show up and get let in by a volunteer?
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:48 PM
Oct 2012

I'm not buying that.

There is more, probably enough more to call it professional PLANNING, behind that dish-washing.

MissMarple

(9,656 posts)
18. This is from the WP link.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:03 PM
Oct 2012

“We’re a faith-based organization; we are apolitical because the majority of our funding is from private donations,” Antal said in a phone interview Monday afternoon. “It’s strictly in our bylaws not to do it. They showed up there, and they did not have permission. They got one of the volunteers to open up the doors.”

It's possible they thought lunch was to be served. Possible. But just showing up for a photo op was rude. Bully boys, classic definiton.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bullyboy

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
21. I saw it. I don't believe it.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:12 PM
Oct 2012

And I'm thinking SS are really not very likely to have happily gone along with that.

MissMarple

(9,656 posts)
26. Good point about the Secret Service.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:53 PM
Oct 2012

I wonder what their protocol is on spur of the moment photo ops. How much time would they need? I wish someone would interview the volunteer who opened up the place.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
28. Only on Lyin' Ryan's opportunistic team. St. Vincent De Paul's doesn't employ security.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:44 PM
Oct 2012

Anyone can walk into one of those places. They aren't expecting anything. No doubt the person who let them in thought it was publicity for the soup kitchen and didn't even know who they were. The St. Vincent De Paul's stores in my area don't restrict anyone from coming in to look things over.

I'm guessing as I've never been to that place, is that one of the homeless was working in the back and they are often apolitical. But the Ryan brigade planned this out, figured it'd be a good campaign commercial for him. That they are a Catholic charity would make it more credible to low-info voters, who won't see this online.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
38. I am sure it was an inside job, they called earlier or something. Good thing the head called him
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 08:18 PM
Oct 2012

out! Can you say, backfired!!!

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
55. that's what I think, too
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 07:28 AM
Oct 2012

I think someone on the inside set this up.. the logistics of having to detail out a place by the SS before the arrival of their charge would have been obvious and no mention about that has been reported.

I think it was pre-arranged by someone who didn't know about the bylaws and now, hopefully, that volunteer with get a good thrashing for forcing a private apolitical organization into the middle of the most political, partisan fight of the year.

Also, it seems to me that the president of this organization needs to stop leaving it unsaid what their organization can and cannot do with respects to candidates looking for unearned photo-ops.

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
11. Weasel. Weaselweaselweaselweaselweasel!!!
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:49 PM
Oct 2012

Did I mention "weasel"? I'm running out of words to express my disgust.

bluesbassman

(19,374 posts)
19. Hey now, I've known plenty of weasels in my day and...
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:05 PM
Oct 2012

now that I think about it, you're right. Friggin weasel!

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
14. Perfect!
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:50 PM
Oct 2012

I go up and down, but I feel very optimistic today. Fingers crossed for tomorrow although doubt if it will change minds. Hell, we already voted! Screw Paul Ryan! Figuratively speaking of course.

sad sally

(2,627 posts)
15. And bringing his children to this photo-op shows what bad parents Mr. & Mrs. Ryan are. If they had
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:52 PM
Oct 2012

any morals they'd be ashamed. Here's what good parents teach their kids:





Mrs. Obama and Sasha served coffee to guests seated at tables, while Malia and Mrs. Robinson walked around with platters, offering to replenish barbecued chicken, potato salad, cornbread and assorted Danish. The President greeted folks by the kitchen and posed for photos, then got onto the lunch service line.

"All right, let's go to work," President Obama said. "I'm ready!" Joined by volunteers, the President scooped macaroni and cheese and served barbecue chicken, and shook hands with those who came through the line, saying alternately to each one, "How are you, sir?" and "Good to see you."

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
16. This reveals Ryan's lack of character.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:56 PM
Oct 2012

And his wife isn't any better. They ought to be ashamed of themselves. What fools they made of themselves.

You are 100% correct, the Ryans are teaching their children to be phonies.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
23. The kids have to learn to lie just like dadddy and distain REALLY helping the needy
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:18 PM
Oct 2012

After teaching the kids to be smug bet they went to eat out somewhere real nice but only after they showered and washed the children from the ickies they caught at the food shelter
Because even while faking it you can get all icky = bet you that is what the Ryans thought

>sign me as some one who has actually volunteered and done this not faked it !!!

Ino

(3,366 posts)
17. As one who REALLY washes dishes...
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:02 PM
Oct 2012

I can tell you that your sleeves would be soaked if you just give them a little flip up over your wrists like he did.

And you don't wash dishes with your frikkin watch on!

speedoo

(11,229 posts)
22. I should have known...
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:17 PM
Oct 2012

When I saw that pic of Ryan "washing" that pot, I just reacted, ah the phony is at it again.

Little did I know that he was just barging in for an uninvited photo-op!

patrice

(47,992 posts)
24. It's easier to say you're sorry than it is to get permission, especially since some folks aren't
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:33 PM
Oct 2012

worthy of being asked in the first place.

Subsidized noble$$$$$$$$$$$$e oblige monopolizes collective resources, such as taxes, for the benefit of the CHOSEN few, without delivering anything of benefit to the "unworthy" in return and, then, justifies their own pay-checks on the backs of the poor and disadvantaged, without even asking them.

This is the way things are done in Kansas. google Kevin Yoder.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
31. Spread this far and wide!
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:47 PM
Oct 2012

Romney and Ryan are shameless liars who cannot be trusted.

They lie about their own policies--Voucherizing Medicare, Orr-existing conditions covered in their health plan and their $5-trillion tax plan that they can't remember.

And now they even lie about volunteering at a homeless shelter.

This should be a campaign ad!!!

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
48. "They showed up there and they did not have permission." That says it all. Entitlement.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 11:07 PM
Oct 2012

Rudeness. Lack of respect for rules, other individuals, or institutions. Muscle your way in to get what you want, in this case, a photo op of Lyin' Ryan "doing good."

struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
50. Charity president: Paul Ryan "did nothing" at soup kitchen photo-op (CBS)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 11:50 PM
Oct 2012

By Brian Montopoli /
CBS News/ October 15, 2012, 6:11 PM

The head of a charity in northeastern Ohio where Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan and his family were photographed cleaning dishes over the weekend said Monday that Ryan was not authorized to be on the premises and "did nothing" while there.

Brian J. Antag, president of the Mahoning County St. Vincent De Paul Society in Youngstown, told the Washington Post that the Romney campaign had not asked to make the Saturday visit to the soup kitchen. He said that he runs an apolitical faith-based organization which has bylaws barring it from hosting political candidates, and that the visit jeopardized donations from private individuals.

"They showed up there and they did not have permission," he said. "They got one of the volunteers to open up the doors." Antag added that Ryan and his family "did nothing" while on the premises ...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57532807/charity-president-paul-ryan-did-nothing-at-soup-kitchen-photo-op/

Uncle Joe

(58,364 posts)
53. Kicked and recommended, has FOX "News" or CNN covered this incident yet?
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:04 AM
Oct 2012

Thanks for the thread, MissMarple.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
57. Stagie bumpkin hee-haw character on the dishwashing job. And he only half washed the soap off that
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 09:23 AM
Oct 2012

pan.

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
59. Paul Ryan will be a bigger disaster than Palin was for John McCain.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 09:42 AM
Oct 2012

The GOP just hasn't realized it yet.

ermasdaughter

(85 posts)
60. Just when i thought it wasn't possible to get any more discusted with these guys....
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:12 PM
Oct 2012

They go an do this! They just keep lowering the bar...Sigh....

Megahurtz

(7,046 posts)
61. What a Highly Offensive Token Visit,
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:46 PM
Oct 2012

spit on the 47%, then make it look like you care about them. It's so obvious it was only for a photo op, why else would he arrive late? I haven't heard a single thing proposed by Ryan/Rmoney to help the homeless, or any downtrodden for that matter, so why would he show up there? What good did that visit do for the homeless?

Seriously, news of this phony stunt needs to be spread around far and wide.

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
62. That's great, but no one but us is going to know about this.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:11 PM
Oct 2012

Do you think this'll hit the MSM? Pfft.

Edit: By "us" mean liberals who pay attention.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
63. Ryans stayed 15 minutes
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:50 PM
Oct 2012

Ryans stayed 15 minutes, but claim it wasn't just a photo op.
I don't know whether to go with "B.S." or LOL

lebkuchen

(10,716 posts)
65. Next stop: Habitat for Humanity
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:21 PM
Oct 2012

tool-belt intact, per GWB.

Is this last minute appeal to the bleeding hearts Rove's idea? It's not like we haven't seen it before.

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