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DOJ and the IRS will want to talk with him about his financial wheelings and dealings. Wouldn't be surprised if he just drops completely out altogether. Just hope President Obama stomps the yard with him to the point that there is absolutely no way that the rePIGs can cheat (suppress the vote, rig the vote, etc.) their way back into the White House again.

triplepoint

I think mr Romney have to flee, to a country who have no extradition to the US if he want not to be taken up on sharges... I believe Mexico have extradition treaty to the US.. And as he have "just" cheated the tax man, he is in no danger of being executed in the US..

Diclotican

I want to join the Bounty Hunter Party To Bring Him Back to face justice. The whole World is watching. If we don't prosecute the fucker, I'm sure there are other countries that will. shit dogCREEP is an international lawbreaker. He may flee to Paraguay, and take up residence at the bush CRIME family ranch there....Wouldn't surprise me at all if that is how this plays out.

triplepoint

Somehow I suspect he will face justice... If he is not to be elected president - he could face a lot of criminal charges - who might stick to him.. And as the old way says - you can run, but not hide... And he might run to a country who doesn't have extradition treaty with the US, like Paraguay (who have been a nice spot for many who have been on the run from different governments over the years) but he can not exactly leave Paraguay if he was to try to live there after the election... If he does, he can be arrested - and treated like a common thief... Just imagine, Romney put in the dock - as a common thief - and have to answer for crimes against the law.. That would be a nice picture to imagine I hope...

The world IS watching, not just for the election, who maybe is more important this time around, than it have been for decades (it was worse in 2000 and 2004) but I suspect 2012 is paramount for which road the US want to go... But also for what become of mr Romney after the election - I pray and hope that the current President is elected president again - but I'm not that sure about it, as americans really missed it in 2000... And even though I do have high hopes for Obama this time around - The hate and disdain many feel for your president is horrible to just look at.. I got into a "discussion" on face book, from some who loved Romney - and outright hated Obama.. And it is amazing who americans can treat their own president that way - the anger I was feeling, on the other side of the pound is just amazing.. How glowing it then is, on your side of the pound I have no clue about - but the anger is pretty clear and a danger to democracy in the US...

Diclotican

If not for his haughtier to run for POTUS - Romney and Bain may have grown to be Goldman Sachs' equal.

Now - due to his arrogance - and the stupid way they failed to (properly) cover up their frauds.

He and Bain Capital may (finally) get a proper (legitimate) federal investigation.

Which (in due course) - would lead to finding out what those Off Shore Tax Havens are really hiding.

Obama would NEVER pardon Romney..

Your case in point was the VP returning the favor to his buddy Nixon
and they were both of the same party.

And - it would put a permanent mark of disdain upon O
to pardon a person who has benefited from obvious federal corruption.

I'm a newbie

please enlighten me?

and leave the bum penniless in the non-extradition treaty - and wind up in prison for non-payment of some bribes.

He bribed many - (his attorney Paul Traub is known as the 'brown bag' king)

However, their true undo (the whole reason I fought to keep Bain in the news all year long)
is the fact that they decided to stiff me entirely.

Had they paid me - even partially - and not attacked my family
no one would ever know what is going on.

Dumb, power minded - Fools!

already forced them to shutter several law firms

(Kronish Lieb, Hutchins, Dreier LLP and Traub, Bonacquist & Fox)

Now all the other firms involved will have to give back their monies and www.MNAT.com may get RICO'd too

and he has Billions (not the $250 million he has been lying about)

to buy his way out of this

PLUS

His partner in these crimes are attorneys and the REAL Above the Law group

Goldman Sachs

laserhaas

I know - he is a horrible thief and criminal - and he deserve to be put in a cell for the rest of his sorry ass life.. I hate people who steal and plunder others - and is shown up as "heroes".. The only thing they are, is thief's - simple thief's - who just just act in a respectable way...

And attorneys and people in government positions, in local, state or federal positions, who help them, should be barred for life for ever doing business with the government - and be put in a prison cell for a long time..

In fact I fear many US prisons would be overpopulated just by corrupt officials if any federal government dared to clean the house...

Diclotican

I'm with you on all of that.

Our great nation needs to return to honor & integrity

It was our strength - when we were formed!

laserhaas

in the last decade or so (at least between 2000 and 2008) the United States of America really lost most of its honor and integrity - but it can be rebuild - if you choose it.. And I have to say, your current President Obama really did that, was rebuilding some of the dignity and honor the US once had - and was respected for over seas...

It was your biggest strength, that you had presidents, who could act with both honor and integrity, and who also was smart enough to understand that if US was to survive it had to have friends, and alliances all over the world.. Not just states who did as americans wanted it to do.

From my point of view - who is living outside of the United States - at least until GWB got "elected" in 2000, the US was one of the most respected states in the world - yes it had it share of problems, and acted sometimes in a way no normal nation acted - but for the most part, until GWB got elected at least the country was sane.. After GWB got elected - all the insanity of the world was showing in the US.. And it have just continued after Obama got elected - I have no clue what would become, if Obama is reelected and the republicans really is going over the deep end... I fear that Obama could be a target for more than angry voices if Obama got elected thuesday...

Diclotican

See the book (due out in a few weeks) entitled "Presidential Puppetry"

You will have your eyes opened!

laserhaas

I know - I don't have all the pieces of the puzzle, not by a long shoot, so to say - but I hope I can at least understand some of it someday..

I will try to get a copy of that book, can I get it on amazon.com?

Diclotican

I'm negotiating with writters and producers about book & movie

(actually need an agent/ attorney I can trust)

too put it simply - Romney was CEO of Bain and they are guilty (confessions already)
of their benefiting from Perjury, Fraud and Federal Corruption.

Just need ONE decent (honorable) prosecutor.

If you witnessed the power and corruption used to bring him to power

you would be more scared (than skeptical).

the stupidest thing Mittens has ever done in his life. He ignored the first rule those with a dark past need to keep:
If you have much to hide, don't go into political candidacy or even advocacy.
YOU WILL BE EXPOSED!

Had he not put something more valuable than the eToys case on the chopping block

the pie cutters would never have cared to address it.

You can throw stones from your own class house - if you have moved out 1st

The Repuks do not really like Mitt so they would be more than happy to get rid of him.

A Fed RICO of Bain Capital is worth about $100 billion

here's where that little "sarchasm" blinkie is suposed to be



I can't wait to vote tomorrow
(a then watch the GOP sink into the sunset)

and do hope you are correct - that the GOP slide down the proverbial slope

very much

It would be beautiful irony if, after all this is over, Mitt gets arrested or officially convicted for his crimes. Seriously - running for President only to be dragged into the dirt by the extra attention this implies? Had he not been nominated, it's completely possible that all this about Bain-Capital may have never reached the surface at all.

As they say, pride cometh before the fall!

and then NObody gave a damn about Romney or Bain anymore.

Then he hired a new consultant and they bought Clear Channel

that changed EveryThing.

...so I didn't know about that. Good work beating him down. It amuses me that, even after that major issue, Romney still didn't learn his lesson! I suppose that he just expected everything to be swept under the carpet again.
Thank you for all your work. I would love for this to be plastered all over the mainstream news at some point (though it most likely won't go down that way.) Would make for a great ending to a wild election.

A book that was to go to printing today (Presidential Puppetry)
has actually halted production - to add a chapter on these issues and the election results

He will be WAY ahead of everyone else (worked on it for 2 years)
and the author will have the added blessing of knowing the outcome.

Either say - this is "nearly" what happened

OR

(G-d forbid)

be able to say "This is HOW it happened"

appreciate it much

He had previously offered a reward and his editors turned down this story

I don't care about the money - but, if I can get him to report on it

maybe we can end this [c]hit in the morning -

Sucks that he is my only big media shot

http://www.scribd.com/doc/112120601/Haas-503b-and-18-USC-3057a-Motion-Oct2012-Version-31a

"she was promptly reminded that bankruptcy court is a federal entity and not beholden to arbitrary rules dictated by individual states or judges"

First off, that sentence contains an outright lie. Not only are the federal rules of procedure subject to local variation in each federal district, but they are most certainly subject to the rules of the judge assigned to the case. EVERY person at all familiar with federal litigation of any kind understands that it is crucial to familiarize oneself with the local rules of the federal court in question and any particular rules of the judge in question.

Whoever wrote that sentence does not know what the fuck they are talking about. Period.

Secondly there is no, zero, zilch significance to the timing of when a court places a paper filed in a decade-old bankruptcy on the docket. This is especially true of a paper styled as an "emergency motion" in a decade old bankruptcy proceeding. Particularly odd here is the significance assigned by the author to the timing of docketing of a claim in the case which is clearly out of time. Since the author is apparently familiar with the filing, then why not simply publish whatever it was that was filed?

There is one obvious reason for the author's coyness about publishing the filing, and I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader. But the apparent assertion that the court has ANY duty to docket whatever comes in according to some timetable set by the filer is bullshit.

Third, a non-party badgering a federal court clerk about docketing procedure is completely out of line.

Local Rules cannot circumvent FEDERAL LAWS

Take your manure to another realm

PLEASE?

The GOP play book is

assault, assault and assault

with banter, hyperbole and lies

They never stick with the fact that Bain Capital attorneys have already CONFESSED to perjury & fraud.

NO CLERK can (willy nilly) keep a lawsuit out of the public docket record!

...and as you have provided a link to the motion itself, the non-docketing of that ridiculously-styled motion is no surprise.

they can dismiss it summarily - but they should not be allowed to "front-desk" and allow a clerk to forbid a filing, or even a judge. That would let them do whatever they want - which is what they tend to do in Delaware courts, so I'm glad an outside light is being shined on this. The BK court is especially abusive - putting its clerical work onto the bar to a ridiculous extent.

Court rules are to forward the court, not to make BK judges feel powerful, use the law firms as their clerical workers, and rule however they please regardless of the law or the rules. There is enough of that in Delaware to make it a great thing that a national spotlight go onto them.

Unfortunately R$s loss may result in lack of interest in Bain cases after the election.

That's what "front-desking" is. No clerk or judge should have that power, no matter how "frivolous," simply because it then gives them the power to deem anything frivolous.

I've recently heard of a filing rejected due to a lack of two-hole punching at the top (not in Delaware, but elsewhere). That kind of thing should not be allowed. Local bars are too obsequious about this kind of thing and end up having to litigate, since putting the little black robe on seems to make most lawyers think they are now God.

The Clerk 1st lied to him and denied reception of the briefing.

Then, when presented evidence of the proof of service reception;
she changed her tune and made statements of grave error in judgment.

Finally - hanging up on a reporter

Not too bright!

Steve, you've been filing unusual documents in various court cases for years, and they read like prisoner habeas petitions.

But, no, a bankruptcy proceeding is not where one files a motion to "DISQUALIFY BAD FAITH SECRET AGENTS OF GOLDMAN SACHS AND BAIN CAPITAL FOR RACETEERING ANDFOR THIS COURT TO REPORT FELONY VIOLATIONS TO AN INDEPENDENT PROSECUTOR"

As a legal expert (that you are feigning to be)

you should know better.....

Clerks are NOT even allowed to reject briefs that are hand written (many of them in the eToys case)

This banter by the other is Totally ignoring the issue that those who confessed to LYING to a Chief Justice often

were (illegally - in violation of § 327(a)) - given a slap on the wrist
and the Clerk (and bad faith [former] Chief) Justice - are engaging in a conspiracy to defraud America


A judge can Redact a brief at the request of the party filing it.
OR
The court can "Rule" that it is vexatious or place it Under SEAL (per a Motion of a party and a HEARING)
However
NO ONE can have power over who can or cannot file a Motion, Brief

The argument of j here - is totally insincere and OBTUSE to the real issue at hand.
(giving circumstantial evidence of a veiled agenda)

Anyone who recognizes a crank motion as a crank motion is part of the conspiracy...

But - whatever you do - stay away from "on point" discussions of the facts that ARE in evidence.

It is a FACT that MNAT lied (they confessed) to the court 15 times.

Also documented that Paul Traub lied (and admitted intentionally so) - 17 times.

In order to get their job under Section 327(a)
(In case you are not aware that is the statute of - Employ of Professional Person).

And - (unlike yourself) - I can quote case law.

It is a ubiquitous Precedent that MNAT, TBF and Barry Gold
(all working illegally for Bain/ Goldman Sachs)
were required by Law - to be disqualified (removed from the case).

As per In re Middleton Arms Sixth Circuit 934 F.2d 723
http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/934/723/85192/

The Trustee appealed to the District Court, which reversed the Bankruptcy Court's decision, holding that the Bankruptcy Court's equity powers could not be used to disregard language within the Code that is unambiguous. 119 B.R. 131. The debtors now appeal the District Court's order.

Section 327(a) clearly states, however, that the court cannot approve the employment of a person who is not disinterested, even if the person does not have an adverse interest. This Court has held that bankruptcy courts "cannot use equitable principles to disregard unambiguous statutory language." In re C-L Cartage Co., Inc., 899 F.2d 1490, 1494 (6th Cir.1990). Therefore, the District Court was correct in reversing the Bankruptcy Court. The equitable powers of section 105(a) may only be used in furtherance of the goals of the Code. By forbidding employment of all interested persons, section 327 prevents individual bankruptcy courts from having to make determinations as to the best interest of the debtors in these situations. Section 105(a) cannot be used to circumvent the clear directive of section 327(a).

...United States Code Title 11, and start with chapter 1, before going off half cocked. EOM

Come clean and state a "real" case.

GOP playbook 101 - is not going to work here

Too Obvious!

You mean like "troll", "plant" and so forth?

That kind of thing?

Yes, I'm an attorney admitted in PA. No, I have no connection to the case. No, I'm not a Republican. And, yes, I can recognize a crank filing when I see one.

and you FAILED to disclose such until now.

Furthermore; you are violating legal 101.

Any (honorable) 1L can wipe the floor with Romney/Bain and the Clerk/ Judge;
in prosecuting this case.

You have not cited any precedent, Code/Rule or case cites in your banter.

Thus you are well aware that my Objection to your arguments are stating facts not in evidence

Would be Sustained!

Every attorney is in on it....



Throw some more gibberish in there and it will be much more convincing.

before they start their arguments.

It is amazing that someone whose time is (purportedly) worth $100 + per hour

is spending time (exposing their ideals) - and calling the court's own case cites gibberish.

But - hey, as it appears that the Law is of no worth to you

gibberish might be apropos! (In your reality)

That is how this whole battle started.

My own attorney (Heiman) kept telling me stuff that did not make sense.

Even the trial attorney (MK) for the United States Trustees' Dept of Justice in Wilmington Delaware
told me that a "bribe is not really a bribe - unless you 'accept' it".

That is when I first felt inclined to study the law.

Unfortunately, it was not until several years later - that I committed myself to such an education. The internet/ web has granted everyone access to higher learning. Including the Department of Justice's own website. As the Wall Street Journal reported in 2005 - that is how this whole case (really) began.
(See July 25, 2005 WSJ eToys story (here)). It states;

Stephen Laser Haas, a liquidator who has helped sell off some eToys assets, also agreed to help. He says he prepared "by perusing the U.S. Justice Department's Web site."

in the Philly area.

Anyone close to MNAT in Wilmington DE tries to make friends
by assaulting the truth.

But - he is actually helping (by revealing who he really is)
and - laying a pathway to point out the amount of incongruous-ness in this case.

Crackpot court filings? Really? This is how it works, no? Public Opinion, along with the steady, and sometimes slow, wheels of Justice. Not "just us", not old boy club suppression. This is the system We work with, under, and through. Not through unsubstantiated double talk, and name calling. Not through undeserved personal attacks, while rejecting legal processes out of hand. You are correct, and a hearty thank you, laserhaas, We should thank this "officer of the court" for his candor, reaction, and opinion. May it serve him well. Let Freedom Ring, especially in the great state of Delaware.

1. Henry Heiman had to leave his firm Heiman Aber Goldust & Baker
2. Kronish Lieb, Hutchins Wheeler, Dreier LLP and Traub Bonacquist & Fox all closed
3. Marc Dreier in Jail 20 years, Tom Petter 50 years and Okun 100 years (Madoff too - but another story)
4. Judge Kent A Jordan (Mormon) threatened Traub & MNAT and promoted to 3rd Circuit (case closed)
5. NY Supreme Court Justice Moskowitz goes after Paul Traub, promoted off (Case Under SEAL)
6. Paul Traub and MNAT sanctioned for "confessing" to lying under oath (intentionally) 34 times
7. Lawrence Friedman DOJ Deputy Director EOUST - Resigned
8. Colm Connolly (former U.S. Attorney) - CORRUPT - denied Fed Judgeship by Senator Biden
9. WSJ and these stories are out
10. Public Corruption Task Force SHUT DOWN and career prosecutors threatened (see link [here]).

And - to take a direct coin of phrase from "J" on Emergency issues

My "original" Emergency Motion found someone halfway decent (ASST U.S. Trustee Frank Perch)
and DOJ Deputy Director Lawrence Friedman - with a hearing set for December 22, 2004

And the Region 3 U.S. Trustee (Roberta DeAngelis) was "replaced" with a U.S. Trustee Press Release

coincidently timed on the very day of our Emergency Hearing
http://www.justice.gov/ust/eo/public_affairs/press/docs/stapleton_release2_12-04.htm

I'm happy (for the sake of this DU realm) - that "J" has exposed himself.

It is true that I'm insignificant -
However,
Samuel Adams said all one can do - when faced with Tyranny, Cronyism & Corruption
is to - Speak the Truth - Loud and Often!

That is because there are good people out there like you "BlueNote--" = who love the light and truth.

People like "J" enjoy the darkness.

Keep shining the light - so that "if" (or when) they "get me"

This battle will not have been in vain.

...this is why every single Patriot made the ultimate sacrifice, from the militias posting out of the Hamlets along the Santee river in the 1770's, all the way to our finest Men & Women serving in the deserts of the Middle East. A way HUGE salute to you. Stay safe, Sir, all the best to you & yours.

May we have a great nite's slumber - because all will be well come Midnight.

He has provided no facts in evidence to substantiate his/ her claims.

And get away with just about anything; some even become heads of state, for instance Adolf Hitler, Richard Nixon, Gorge Bush and a slue of others.

It is true, that, with enough of the right kind of influence, such as money, the advocates of evil can easily exploit the loopholes, weak links, corruptible judges, and politician’s et al.

Over time, the predacious arguments of the con-artist, ensures that all the institutions that were put in place to serve, and protect the best interest of a society, become wrought with loopholes, and weak links that serve the best interest of predators, and at the expense of society.

Of course none of this could happen without the conservative / judges, lawyers, and politicians, whose diminished conscience, narcissistic behavior, lack of common sense and accountability, leaves them amenable too, and easily corrupted by the psychopath con-artist.

To make a long story short, if there were a moral too this story, I guess you could say that, at the core of every failed society you will always find the Devils advocate.

J is making arguments without facts.

It is GOP playbook 101 - destroy the messenger and the message.

Romney - FAILED - to read the playbook.

If he had - he would have learned the fact that

"when you are exposed and have nothing good to show for the candidate;
make sure he wraps himself in the Flag and speaks nothing but the Constitution".

Appreciate your having the chutzpah to stand up against the attorney seeking bad faith results.

Criminals do obtain political power and positions of authority, they become law makers, law enforcers, preachers, psychologist, doctors, bankers and CEO's; anywhere there is power to be had over people you will find psychopaths. So to the degree criminal’s influence government, social institutions, and the laws of society, the moral fabric of society begins to change in ways that rewards criminal behavior. In addition, the moral compass of society’s majority begins to morph and mirror that of the criminal leaders, i.e. society as a whole becomes more narcissistic, and corrupt.

"When the Law looses it moral compass the citizen has to make a cruel choice, change his/her moral compass or loose respect for the law"; Fredrick Bastite.

The thing with "J" is that his moral compass and attitude reflects that of criminal law makers and politicians, so his facts, or distortions of facts, or the lack of facts do not represent any moral value that benefits society even if it is the law. It just aids and abets politically powerful criminals who have made a mockery of the law; that is the only information I take from "J"; he may not be part of solution but he is typical of the the social majority.

You on the other hand seem unwilling to change your moral compass, so I applauded you for that, and say welcome to the minority. I also hope you have lots of support, wise counsel, and safe places to hide out while you are in the process of fighting, and loosing respect for the law.

You might also want to learn a little bit about criminal psychology, because the M$M and GOP playbook 101 is an exact copy of psychopathology 101.

Good luck to you my friend.

My moral compass surprised them - I'm told Traub lost a $10,000 bet on my taking their bribe.

The money they offered was not the big thing - they also offered the "good ole boys club" key

I though - all my life - that is what I wanted.

Surprised myself that (not even for a nano second) did I consider accepting their payments.

And - I believe - it is the sole reason I'm still alive today.

To Finish this - because a kid from the wrong side of the tracks - did the right thing.

Again - Thanks much - for paying attention and having the chutzpah to speak out.

very much so

Hope Mitt gets to "SERVE" in the federal pen, along with the crooks that serve him.

and the Re'thugs learn a lesson

most kindly

just learned how to "kick" - on my own.

Pretty cool coin of phrase

Paul Traub often meets with people in Aruba

where - discussing American crimes - is most likely never to be addressed in a court here

Fantastic.

(btw - am I allowed to post pictures in the comments and/ or thread)?