Only those Deep In Sleep can fail to see all that the Republicans have done to undermine the integrity of American democracy.

Thanks for posting. Glad to see that some in the corporate media are coming out of their trance.

This is a useful "the world is watching" warning.

When the dust clears from this election, it is time for a sustained movment to fight the potential for evoting fraud. Doesn't matter if you believe it is happening or not, it is obvious that hacking can happen. Too many Democrats are afraid of raising this prior to an election - claiming it discourages voter turn out. I don't accept that argument but we can avoid even having to have it if we begin tackling this issue seriously starting tomorrow. Are we really going to wait another 23 months and then start up this anciety cycle again then when it is too late to do anything other than to tell activists to stay quiet?

They cannot win on merit....so they steal our Democracy!

The ballot could then be dropped in a locked collection box on the way out after the voter tears off his/her's numbered receipt. It provides a natural check on the machines and creates an easily followed audit trail. As Ross Perot says "it's that simple".

I would also want the voter to be able to verify the vote online later...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021714150

Employers all over the country are threatening their employees with firing if Obama wins.
If the voter can verify his vote later, his employer can force him to prove he voted for Robme.
If they can, they will.

"Law? What do I care about the law? Hain't I got the power?"

Cornelius Vanderbilt, and many other employers.

a real piece of work.

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by an entity controlled by the Romney family.

Interesting that these things are being reported by Forbes.

Robme is so crooked that even they are afraid of him.

are nothing more than conspiracy theories

clearly the R sec of state has no interest in transparency or accountablility, but seriously can someone catch these dudes who deliberately reprogram voting machines to shift votes?? how hard can it be to get a copy of this software and test it?? any DUers know of clear evidence of software being tested and confirmed for actual DELIBERATE vote shifting during an election?

the the risk of going to prison is greater than the benefit of rigging an election.

It's just too suspicious, especially when it hasn't gone through due dilligence.

Also, if the patch is simply converting output of a report from xml to csv, I'd have told the SoS to deal with it and we'll change it for the next election.

And if that's ALL the patch does, then why isn't the SoS being more open about it? That kind of change is quite benign. My guess is there's more to the patch that the SoS doesn't want public.

...it is imperative the machines are publicly owned and open source coded.

Nothing else should have ever been considered.

It took a fair amount of corruption just to get us where we already are.

Which is to say, K&R.

If they put fraud logic in the microchips themselves, then it may be impossible to find the fraud.

Focusing on software as the crux of the problem is a red herring. The problem is that the mechanics of voting has to be subject to easy auditing -- soup to nuts -- requiring at most only a few hours of training for auditors. Computerized voting cannot conceivably meet a standard like that: Every logic gate in silicon would have to be examined, and add every scrap of firmware on top of that. That is impossible. Not even the NSA could do such a thing to the simplest videogame console.

Computerized voting is Blackbox Voting. The only reason computers are trusted for financial transactions is because finance has all parties cognizant of who is involved with which transactions, and those parties get receipts and statements, so the process has constant easy verification. Secret ballots are nothing like this.

If you want voting to be 'computerized', then feed the paper ballots into a scanner!

but it still needs to be handled as well. The stealing of our elections must end, they would have taken this one too except to many of us got out to vote. This problem must be eliminated completely...

to help bring about a real fix to our voting system. Yes, we know Obama did not steal Ohio (and exactly who may have tried!), but I think we might be able to get everyone to agree that both sides deserve to know the system is reliable and the process transparent.