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trailmonkee

(2,681 posts)
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 05:09 PM Nov 2012

In Guam, 'Non-Binding Straw Poll' Gives Obama A Commanding Win

Source: WYSO

The polls in Guam have closed and the results are in.

President Obama managed a big victory, garnering 72 percent of the votes. That's about 23,067 votes compared to 8,443 votes for Gov. Mitt Romney.

Now for the disclaimers: Guam, 6,000 miles and 18 times zones away from California, is a territory of the United States, so their votes don't count. The presidential part of the vote is considered a "non-binding straw poll." But if you believe in bellweathers, listen up.

Here's what R. Todd Thompson of NPR member station KPRG in Guam told us:

"Since 1984, Guam has been conducting a non-binding presidential 'straw poll' on the same date as the presidential election. And each time since 1984, the Guam Straw Poll has correctly predicted who will be the next president.

"Because Guam votes so early and has a perfect track record in picking the winner, Guam is the new bellwether in presidential politics. Traditionally, those seeking an early indication of things to come on Election Day have looked to Dixville Notch, and a couple other tiny New Hampshire towns which vote just past midnight on Election Day and then proceed to count a handful of ballots. However, these early returns have had little predictive value historically.

"Guam, on the other hand, has predicted the presidential winner every time. In fact, the only time Guam arguably got it wrong it still predicted the ultimate winner. In 2000, Guam narrowly favored Bush over Gore. Of course, Bush lost the popular vote nationwide in 2000, but he still managed to become president."



Read more: http://www.wyso.org/post/guam-non-binding-straw-poll-gives-obama-commanding-win



more info: http://www.ballot-access.org/2012/11/06/guam-presi

The Guam Election Commission has finished counting the November 6, 2012 presidential vote. Because Guam is on the early side of the International Date Line, voting finished there several hours ago. The results: Obama 23,067 (72.39%); Romney 8,443 (26.49%); Johnson 357 (1.12%).

In November 2008, the Guam presidential vote was: Obama 20,120 (62.35%); McCain 11,940 (37.00%); Bob Barr, Libertarian, 212 (.66%). Here is a picture of the 2012 Guam ballot. The presidential part of the ballot is on page two. Thanks to Walter Ziobro for the news, which is from the web page of a Guam television station, KUAM.
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In Guam, 'Non-Binding Straw Poll' Gives Obama A Commanding Win (Original Post) trailmonkee Nov 2012 OP
Yay Guam! Mike Nelson Nov 2012 #1
Fantastic news. but, Guam has no electoral votes. cyclezealot Nov 2012 #2
no, because they are not states gejohnston Nov 2012 #6
We should handle it like France, where they have representation Ken Burch Nov 2012 #9
Like that will happen. cyclezealot Nov 2012 #13
Because they are US citizens. xxqqqzme Nov 2012 #7
It's a non-binding "straw poll" type of vote. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #14
I wonder if some of the people on Guam were more likely to vote for someone with McCain's hughee99 Nov 2012 #3
This will be the national trend. lalalu Nov 2012 #4
That's saying something. There are many Mormons in Guam. MjolnirTime Nov 2012 #5
Island is about 90% Catholic modrepub Nov 2012 #16
Been to Guam.... Left Coast2020 Nov 2012 #8
Interesting that Romney's vote share in Guam is eight points LOWER than McCain's. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #10
"...and perhaps some of them worship her as a god.' BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #11
Good point. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #12
Their votes don't count, sort of like Democrats in Ohio. olddad56 Nov 2012 #15

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
6. no, because they are not states
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 05:32 PM
Nov 2012

DC didn't have a presidential vote until the 23rd amendment passed.

Statehood for Guam!

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
9. We should handle it like France, where they have representation
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 05:40 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Tue Nov 6, 2012, 06:13 PM - Edit history (1)

for what they call the "overseas departments". they just created an overseas districts for French citizens living in the U.S. and Canada, which led to campaigning in the last French election in places like New York City and Montreal.

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
13. Like that will happen.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 05:59 PM
Nov 2012

The Gobbers won't give DC a Congress member because it is Democratic leaning. Same for Puerto Rico. The Republicans don't want them to become independent , yet they don't want Puerto Rico a state being they are Democratic..
Americans Abroad are overwhelmingly Democratic. Don't think that will ever happen.. Normally, we'd call that taxation without representation.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
14. It's a non-binding "straw poll" type of vote.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 06:06 PM
Nov 2012

If they want to have a symbolic vote, I don't see the problem!

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
3. I wonder if some of the people on Guam were more likely to vote for someone with McCain's
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 05:14 PM
Nov 2012

military background (given that the military is such a large part of the island's economy) than they were for Rmoney with no military background at all.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
10. Interesting that Romney's vote share in Guam is eight points LOWER than McCain's.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 05:41 PM
Nov 2012

Maybe there are lots of Palin supporters out there...and perhaps some of them worship her as a god.

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