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Judi Lynn

(160,601 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:36 PM Nov 2012

Monsanto Throws GMO Victory Party in California

Source: Common Dreams

November 7, 2012
8:22 AM
Monsanto Throws GMO Victory
Party in California

$46 Million Advertising Blitz Convinces Citizens to Vote "Against Own Interests"

SACRAMENTO, CA - November 7 - After a deluge of allegedly misleading advertisements paid for in large part by pesticide and biotechnology corporations, California voters defeated Proposition 37, which would have given them the right–to-know whether the foods they buy at the grocery store contain genetically engineered ingredients (GMOs).

With 95% of the vote counted, according to the California Secretary of State's office, the proposal was defeated 53-47%.

"Genetically engineered foods found on market shelves have most commonly been altered in a lab to either be resistant to being sprayed by large amounts of toxic herbicides, or to produce, internally, their own insecticide," explains Mark A. Kastel, Codirector of The Cornucopia Institute.

"Corporations that produce both the genetically engineered crops and their designer pesticides, in concert with the multi-billion-dollar food manufacturers that use these ingredients, fought this measure tooth and nail, throwing $46 million at the effort that would have required food manufacturers to include informational labeling on GMO content on their packaging," Kastel added.

~snip~
"Had we seen the same level of enthusiasm for consumers’ right-to-know from Whole Foods as we saw against the right-to-know from Monsanto, the playing field would have been more level, and the misleading information spewed by giant corporate agribusinesses would quite possibly not have prevailed on election day,” said Kastel. "Meaningful participation from Whole Foods could have been a game changer."

Read more: http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2012/11/07-19

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Monsanto Throws GMO Victory Party in California (Original Post) Judi Lynn Nov 2012 OP
So sad nt abelenkpe Nov 2012 #1
Dang if California does not pass it who will :( I was so glad when they got the BPA Ban Passed pam4water Nov 2012 #2
Vermont. bunnies Nov 2012 #23
It will be back in CA next time around but condoleeza Nov 2012 #38
This food fight will continue. The public now knows they are roody Nov 2012 #3
Very much hoping you are right. n/t truedelphi Nov 2012 #7
Don't buy corporate food. savannah43 Nov 2012 #14
Popcorn is still good. Not yet GMed roody Nov 2012 #42
Are you sure? siligut Nov 2012 #46
You are right, this was just the beginning Tumbulu Nov 2012 #29
GMO labeling efforts change course after California defeat Judi Lynn Nov 2012 #4
Thanks for Keep Plugging Away, GMO Labeling Peeps! Someday Cha Nov 2012 #16
The FDA is under the USDA. Monsanto, et al, can be attacked on the agricultural savannah43 Nov 2012 #18
Unfortunately, the current administration... bvar22 Nov 2012 #37
I'm afraid it will take a national movement to pass this and override the Monsanto Cleita Nov 2012 #22
Secretary of Agriculture Vilsack came from Monsanto. roody Nov 2012 #33
So what does that orange have to do with an apple? Cleita Nov 2012 #35
Whole Foods needs a really strong competitor. loudsue Nov 2012 #5
one of the few losses of the night RussBLib Nov 2012 #6
How did they get people to vote against this? Mojorabbit Nov 2012 #43
They ran ads 24/7 saying it would increase family food bills hundreds to thousands of dollars per yr SunSeeker Nov 2012 #44
I love California and all but.. bamacrat Nov 2012 #8
Unfortunately, many liberal Californians, although they know to vote for the Cleita Nov 2012 #24
It is a major loss, but it is up to us to inform the public. JRLeft Nov 2012 #9
Oh Wow! Too bad..they must have been really misleading because California Cha Nov 2012 #10
Cali Loosing its Cool otohara Nov 2012 #11
not all of our cool, the demos now have a super majority in the state legislature. olddad56 Nov 2012 #40
Sad isn't it. I did my best to inform friends that the misleading Cleita Nov 2012 #12
And, I know Monsanto and all the GMO companies are really sneaky Cha Nov 2012 #17
Good for you guys, but I also blame our Democratic clubs and organizations for not Cleita Nov 2012 #20
They were very busy passing 30 and blocking 32. roody Nov 2012 #34
Good for them. They should have also been busy passing 37. n/t Cleita Nov 2012 #36
You are absolutely right, they should have n/t condoleeza Nov 2012 #39
With $46 Million Dollars against you it's hard to get your message out. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #13
We need to do better to get our message out in spite of the money behind it. Cleita Nov 2012 #25
we may as well try limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #27
again this is another item that AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #15
They sold it by convincing people it would hurt the small farmers. Cleita Nov 2012 #19
This makes me sick. bunnies Nov 2012 #21
this song, written 42 years ago, still tells the story. olddad56 Nov 2012 #26
Next time the people will win Dont call me Shirley Nov 2012 #28
Now I guess we have to pressure the EPA and FDA and USDA Tumbulu Nov 2012 #30
Bad news. freshwest Nov 2012 #31
More insight here: Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #32
This entire film "Genetic Roulette" was available to watch free until a few days ago condoleeza Nov 2012 #41
I think most of the concern over GMOs is anti-science hysteria, however I see no reason not to label 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #45
Possibly. I never can find enough information about GMOs to make an informed decision... nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #47
Fair enough 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #48

condoleeza

(814 posts)
38. It will be back in CA next time around but
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:47 PM
Nov 2012

there is a petition circulating to get Obama to make this National and Oregon and Washington and many other States are fighting for this as well.

It is imperative that we put all the pressure we can on Obama now to replace Tom Vilsack and Michael Taylor. Geitner is on his way out, these other 2 are the other major disappointments from his first 4 years. Please download the poster on this link and spread it around. Stop buying products from the companies who let Monsanto get away with this and support those who fought it. [link:http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2012/11/07-19|

savannah43

(575 posts)
14. Don't buy corporate food.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:56 PM
Nov 2012

Put Monsanto and those using their Frankenfood out of business. Lists of what food brands to avoid are all over the 'net. If the label doesn't say that the product is certified organic, don't buy it.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
46. Are you sure?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:20 PM
Nov 2012

I remember reading that even Orville Redenbachers was GMO. Surprised me because supposedly it was specially bred to be bigger and better.

Tumbulu

(6,292 posts)
29. You are right, this was just the beginning
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:49 PM
Nov 2012

and they will be regulated and labeled, or they will go away.

Judi Lynn

(160,601 posts)
4. GMO labeling efforts change course after California defeat
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:41 PM
Nov 2012

GMO labeling efforts change course after California defeat
By Carey Gillam and Lisa Baertlein
Wed Nov 7, 2012 4:13pm EST

(Reuters) - The failure on Tuesday of a California ballot initiative that would have mandated labeling of genetically modified foods is not a death knell for those seeking nationwide labeling, U.S. labeling proponents said.

President Barack Obama's re-election could be a boost, as he is seen, in general terms, as being supportive of labeling. Still, efforts to force change at a federal level could face an uphill climb.

"The federal effort is a monumental task without a state victory somewhere," said Michele Simon, a public health attorney from California.

New state labeling initiatives are planned for Washington state and Oregon. Beyond that, the action now shifts to Washington, D.C. and efforts to force change at the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, which has primary regulatory oversight for food and food additives.

More:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/07/us-usa-campaign-gmo-labeling-idUSBRE8A62D320121107?rpc=401&feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&rpc=401

Cha

(297,553 posts)
16. Thanks for Keep Plugging Away, GMO Labeling Peeps! Someday
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:59 PM
Nov 2012

we'll WIN the right to see those GMO on food products.. Like we're seeing warnings on cigarette packs that people still smoke. At least they're freaking warned.

Thanks for this update, Judi Lynn!

savannah43

(575 posts)
18. The FDA is under the USDA. Monsanto, et al, can be attacked on the agricultural
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:02 PM
Nov 2012

level, too. What would help is a movement in each state demanding that GMO's be outlawed entirely. Maybe if that is demanded by citizens, the proponents of GMO's wouldn't be so reluctant to at least label them.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
37. Unfortunately, the current administration...
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:43 PM
Nov 2012

... has put Monsanto's Man in charge of the Department of Agriculture,
and a Monsanto Lobbyist in charge of the FDA.

Google: "Vilsack & Monsanto.

Google: "Michael Taylor & Monsanto"

As far as I can tell NOBODY with a commitment to Natural, Healthy, Foods or Organic Farming was given a position of power in the current Department of Agriculture or the FDA.



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
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Cleita

(75,480 posts)
22. I'm afraid it will take a national movement to pass this and override the Monsanto
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:11 PM
Nov 2012

factor here in CA. We are such a gigantic agricultural state and a lot of people don't realize this. They also don't realize that much of that agricultural is controlled by huge corporations, not single family farmers.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
5. Whole Foods needs a really strong competitor.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:41 PM
Nov 2012

Someone who is on the side of the people and the environment.

RussBLib

(9,034 posts)
6. one of the few losses of the night
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:42 PM
Nov 2012

We need to keep trying on this one. Just goes to show, big money and big lies can SOMETIMES be enough to brainwash the people.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
43. How did they get people to vote against this?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:19 AM
Nov 2012

Was it some sort of scare campaign? It seems such a no brainer.

SunSeeker

(51,662 posts)
44. They ran ads 24/7 saying it would increase family food bills hundreds to thousands of dollars per yr
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:51 AM
Nov 2012

In other words, lies. And the pro 37 campaign did not have the money to counter them. This is one example of a Citizens United casualty from last night.

bamacrat

(3,867 posts)
8. I love California and all but..
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:48 PM
Nov 2012

It seems like anything that should be a given to pass there gets defeated because the opposition outspends the proponents. I guess I have a false idea of California. Gay Marriage, GMO labeling, Legal Weed, all outspent and defeated..

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
24. Unfortunately, many liberal Californians, although they know to vote for the
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:14 PM
Nov 2012

Democratic candidate, don't know how to wade through the murkier propositions, many of those written with opaque and misleading language. Add massive misleading ads and sadly, most often usually liberal voters will vote for the Republican backed proposition. This is one of those instances.

Cha

(297,553 posts)
10. Oh Wow! Too bad..they must have been really misleading because California
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:52 PM
Nov 2012

has always been first in the Nation for leading in Healthy Food. That's my personal observation since the '70s.

Bummer.. I only shop at Natural Food stores who don't sell those products but it would be really nice for people to know what they're buying.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
12. Sad isn't it. I did my best to inform friends that the misleading
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:53 PM
Nov 2012

information campaign was backed by Monsanto and Dow chemical, but people are still so naive that they believe those evil companies have their best interests at heart. It's so discouraging.

Cha

(297,553 posts)
17. And, I know Monsanto and all the GMO companies are really sneaky
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:02 PM
Nov 2012

at making people think they have their best interests at heart.

Some aren't so fooled..like the ones who have lawsuits against Pioneer here on Kaua'i.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
20. Good for you guys, but I also blame our Democratic clubs and organizations for not
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:08 PM
Nov 2012

fighting this will all their might.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
25. We need to do better to get our message out in spite of the money behind it.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:17 PM
Nov 2012

Knocking on doors, standing on soap boxes in the park. I don't know exactly what but I feel only people power, like an Occupy Movement will get the lies exposed. Or, maybe I'm engaging in wishful thinking.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
15. again this is another item that
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:58 PM
Nov 2012

California Voters must not have paid too close of attention to..



Fantasy scenario:.. Monsanto people throw their plush high society party..an unknown some one from the umbrella corporation spritzes their maraschino cherries with a special formula.

Party goers fall over in agony and become ZOMBIES.... Zombies attack and kill the Monsanto department heads...turning them into Zombies...

ALICE SHOWS UP!

Let the games begin!


Cleita

(75,480 posts)
19. They sold it by convincing people it would hurt the small farmers.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:05 PM
Nov 2012

People believed the misleading advertising. They pulled the same tactic about Prop. 13 saying passing it would save old people from losing their homes. We have been suffering draconian losses from that ever since then, from the dismantling our free university education system to institutionalized homelessness. What I'm saying is they got a lot of the liberal votes from misinformed Democrats. It never would have passed otherwise. I'm kinda pissed with our CA DNC for not fighting this harder.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
21. This makes me sick.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:09 PM
Nov 2012

Just SICK. Yeah, hey, whatever, feed me whatever garbage you want! Why should you have to tell me about it? So what if the shit causes cancer in lab animals!

Tumbulu

(6,292 posts)
30. Now I guess we have to pressure the EPA and FDA and USDA
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:53 PM
Nov 2012

to require a regulatory system, they thought labeling would kill their market....they made a big mistake. A few real tests and they will be out of business entirely.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
32. More insight here:
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:07 PM
Nov 2012
Voters rejected the ballot initiative, which called for labeling some foods made with genetically modified ingredients, 54% to 46%. The proposition had been trailing in polls for weeks amid a campaign battle that saw a big-money push for "No on 37."

Some supporters built up passage of Proposition 37 as "a shot heard 'round the world" to bring about wider food-system reform. Many proponents of the measure saw it as an opportunity to spark a national referendum as well as challenge what some call "Franken-food" and the use of only a few seed types owned by a small number of giant companies, said Tom Philpott in Mother Jones:

"Make no mistake, Prop. 37 was the food-system equivalent to a lunge at the king. No fewer than two massive sectors of the established food economy saw it as a threat: the GMO seed/agrichemical industry, led by giant companies Monsanto, DuPont, Dow, and Bayer; and the food-processing/junk-food industries who transform GMO crops into profitable products, led by Kraft, Nestle, Coca-Cola, and their ilk. Collectively, these companies represent billions in annual profits; and they perceived a material threat to their bottom lines in the labeling requirement, as evidenced by the gusher of cash they poured into defeating it."


http://www.latimes.com/features/food/dailydish/la-dd-proposition-37-food-movement-20121107,0,207878.story


Lying in the California voter guide: The No campaign listed four organizations in the official state document mailed to voters as concluding that “biotech foods are safe.” One of them, the American Council on Science and Health, is a notorious industry front group that only sounds legit. Another, the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, actually has no position and complained about being listed. (I was attending the group’s annual meeting when this came to light and promptly notified the Yes campaign, but the damage was already done.) The other two organizations, the National Academy of Sciences and the World Health Organization, in fact have more nuanced positions on GMOs than just “safe.”

Misuse of a federal seal and quoting the Food and Drug Administration: This one caused even my jaded draw to drop. In a mailer sent to California voters, the No campaign printed the following text along side the FDA logo: “The US Food and Drug Administration says a labeling policy like Prop 37 would be “inherently misleading.” That is exactly how they wrote it, with the incorrectly-placed quotation marks. How can a $45 million campaign make a mistake like that? They can’t, it’s deliberately confusing. It also may even be a violation of criminal law to use a federal seal in this manner. I am told that some California voters were fooled into thinking FDA opposed the measure. Of course, that was the idea.

Misrepresenting academic affiliation: More than once, the No campaign gave the false impression that its go-to expert Henry Miller was a professor at Stanford University, in violation the school’s own policy. (In fact, he’s with the Hoover Institute, housed on the Stanford campus.) Only when Stanford complained did the No campaign edit the TV ad, but many already saw it, and then they repeated the lie in a mailer.

Deploying unfounded scare tactics: I fully expected the No side to use distracting arguments to scare voters while ignoring the merits of issue. But they took this common industry strategy to new heights, making wild claims about higher food prices, “shakedown lawsuits,” and “special interest exemptions.” While each of these claims is easily debunked, being outspent on ad dollars makes it hard to compete, especially when all you can really say is, “that’s not true.”



http://www.appetiteforprofit.com/2012/11/07/lies-dirty-tricks-and-45-million-kill-gmo-labeling-in-california/


(and for the pro-corporate water carrier's perspective):

I firmly believe that passing this legislation — as it was proposed — would have been a mistake.

The rallying cry for supporters of this proposition has been “The Right To Know.”

It sounds so simple: why shouldn’t people know if their food is genetically modified?

What does Monsanto have to hide? But couching the issue in terms of knowledge assumes one thing: that labeling will be in any way informative. In the case of Prop 37, it simply wouldn’t have been.

The simple fact is that there is no evidence that GMOs, as a blanket group, are dangerous. There’s a simple reason for this: not all GMOs are the same. Every plant created with genetic technology contains a different modification. More to the point, if the goal is to know more about what’s in your food, a generic GMO label won’t tell you. Adding Bt toxin to corn is different than adding Vitamin A to rice or vaccines to potatoes or heart-protective peptides to tomatoes.


http://www.businessinsider.com/scientists-happy-ca-prop-37-failed-2012-11

condoleeza

(814 posts)
41. This entire film "Genetic Roulette" was available to watch free until a few days ago
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:59 PM
Nov 2012

here is a 10 minute excerpt: [link:http://www.youtube.com/user/GeneticRoulette|

This issue is as important as jobs, IMO, we are what we eat.

Well, I give up, I can't make the link work from what I can see here, so if you don't see a link just go to YouTube and search for Genetic Roulette.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
45. I think most of the concern over GMOs is anti-science hysteria, however I see no reason not to label
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:12 PM
Nov 2012

Same as with labeling kosher food.

Non kosher food isn't poison. But some believe it is unclean or whatever and it hurts nothing to label it.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
48. Fair enough
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:32 PM
Nov 2012

If you don't feel you have enough info waiting to make a decision is always the best course of action.

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