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Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:48 PM Nov 2012

Warmer still: Extreme climate predictions appear most accurate, report says

Source: Washington Post

Climate scientists agree the Earth will be hotter by the end of the century, but their simulations don’t agree on how much. Now a study suggests the gloomier predictions may be closer to the mark.

“Warming is likely to be on the high side of the projections,” said John Fasullo of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo., a co-author of the report, which was based on satellite measurements of the atmosphere.

That means the world could be in for a devastating increase of about eight degrees Fahrenheit by 2100, resulting in drastically higher seas, disappearing coastlines and more severe droughts, floods and other destructive weather.

Such an increase would substantially overshoot what the world’s leaders have identified as the threshold for triggering catastrophic consequences. In 2009, heads of state agreed to try to limit warming to 3.6 degrees, and many countries want a tighter limit. . .

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/warmer-still-extreme-climate-predictions-appear-most-accurate-study-says/2012/11/08/ebd075c6-29c7-11e2-96b6-8e6a7524553f_story.html?hpid=z2



How much more must the alarm be sounded? It's real, and it's here, and it's time to cut the crap. Leaving our kids and grandkids a deficit is nothing compared to this.

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villager

(26,001 posts)
1. No one even dares talk about the "climate cliff" we are going over
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:50 PM
Nov 2012

...regardless of which party they're in.

How many more super-storms, until it finally "interrupts" business-as-usual?

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
2. 350.org is doing a national lecture tour to pull the climate movement together.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:56 PM
Nov 2012

The idea is to press institutions to divest from fossil fuel companies.

The tour started yesterday, the day after Election Day. To find out when they will be near you, go to 350.org and click on Do the Math.

Join the movement. Do it for the next generation.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
3. Warming is already on the high side of the projections
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:00 PM
Nov 2012

So that seems like a safe call. Things tend to keep doing what they're doing until they stop.

FirstLight

(13,364 posts)
4. ...i keep saying this
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:12 PM
Nov 2012

EVERY model is TOO CONSERVATIVE....it is not surprising that every couple months the scientists come out and say, "by the way, it's happening faster/more/worse that we thought."

and I hate the fact that I am not surprised by this anymore, i hate the fact that I see it as a given. I hate the fact that my kids will grow up in a very different world than ANY of us can imagine ...

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
7. we need a CCC for the Climate!
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:22 AM
Nov 2012

Climate Conservation Corps, Citizens Climate Corps, whatever...

It could be a jobs program and we could move military spending to it. This is the greatest threat to our security, nothing else comes close.

Also,
Urge President Obama to Act Aggressively on Science-based Solutions to Global Warming

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
10. There is a REASON it's called "Catastrophe Theory".
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:34 PM
Nov 2012

Look it up, these phase changes happen fast, when they happen, and they are not reversible.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
15. There is also the Precautionary Principle
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:48 AM
Nov 2012

...which says that the odds of us causing a catastrophe must be weighted according to the magnitude of what is at stake.

IOW, odds that look acceptable for more mundane risks (like crashing a car while driving) ought to be viewed as unacceptable when the 'thing' being risked by a certain behavior is billions of lives, most species and habitats, or civilization itself. Some things are too precious to gamble even with what may seem like a moderately low level of risk.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
16. Well yeah, but we are way past that.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:57 AM
Nov 2012

It's a big ship, and the ship is already turning, and frantic efforts to turn it back can well make things worse.

antigone382

(3,682 posts)
17. We need to specifically target the most anti-climate science radicals in congress.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:52 AM
Nov 2012

And beat them over the head with their backwardness. We need to shame them and shove natural disasters, crop failures, insufferable heat and ocean level rise in their faces. We need to campaign against them constantly with everything we have on this issue. Either they will be replaced or they will change their tunes.

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