yet these old people voted Republican probably

Unless they are rich or racist. As Grayson said, if they won't give you the vote- they will give you nothing. As we know ObamaCare was crafted in part by Mitt Romney. with certain consumer oriented reforms. . It is up to the people of these states to give their Republican governor their views.

They love Ole Ben but they hate the post office

I were them. They get to feel everyone's misery when they die. IMO. Just sayin'.

And they're absolutely sure that their beloved Ayn as in Mine would approve!

Totally agree, these Repuglicans like Perry and Jindal will be in power for another term then they will be gone!!

These assholes gov should have their benefits tied in to the people of their state. Why do they get to tell people you can't have this and they get stuff that is the repubs phrase that is way better.

for a little girl with leukemia. I thought, these families have been devastated, they're attempting to get the best care they can afford and must beg the public. it should not be in this country. what we've got are some people who don't give a shite about other americans, even little children. it must be god's will if they die, right? see god didn't gift them with large amounts of moolah even though they may be working two or three jobs today just to make ends meet.

Civilized people don't do that to their fellow human beings.

If they failed to participate they would have had their medicaid funding slashed to zero.

Oh well, at least the rest of us can save some money.

They are sinister. You would think that Vitter would be gone. Didn't happen. The people who vote them in are not realistic.

ETA: Seriously. I just get the weirdest feeling that this is the road we're going to have to travel to get there.

People are going to suffer and maybe die. But we know that at the end of it all, there is only ONE WAY. Single Payer.

Obama will invent it and use it to cover the uninsured in the south and where ACA is rejected. And then it will be clear that it's superior and all the chips will fall into place.

I can dream, right?

and I don't think you are 'dreaming' too much.... if you would have imagined the election were going to turn out the way it did a couple years ago... you probably would have thought you were dreaming then as well... good things can happen too

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]All these asshole employers, like the CEO of Papa John's, are adding to the misery as well.

Unfortunately, there will be a lot of suffering before critical mass is reached, and the demand becomes urgent and strident enough that the reTHUGs in Congress relent.

However, we're on the path forward and President Obama is exactly the right person to see it accomplished.

I sent my reply to their corporate office. Sadly (being the single Father of a 16 year old Son) we have used PJ's very often . We have received dozens of "free pizza's."
I informed them that because of Papa's decision to cut workers hours due to Obama care, we would no longer purchase anything from them. "I hope they enjoy their bottom line."

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]If they get enough responses like that, maybe they'll rethink their position.

Won't make enough money.
Sigh.

so that they don't wind up in debt. there's nothing wrong for a doctor to earn 100,000 to 150,000 dollars (i heard that doctors make about that in some of the socialized medicine countries). also, with government aid, we may actually get people from poor, middle class families who actually want to be doctors to help people; instead of monetary motive.

The insurance companies own enough legislators to keep single payer off the table.

since you will either have to decide to pay the premiums for your employees or pay the $2k penalty. What do you currently pay to subsidize each individual employee on your insurance? Mine's $8k/year/employee, they pay $2400/yr.

I believe that the more small business owners pressure this admin for single payer, the faster we'll get there as well. Its going to take all of us. I've already started emailing and calling my reps about this.

'It's time we put the flame torch to their keep...'

i really can't muster up too much sympathy for the people residing in red states... sorry.

The problem with being a governor (or other politician) from one of the states in the 'Arc of Republican Poverty', is that they can't control information like they could even fifty years ago.

The internet is the same, with the same unfiltered information, no matter what state you're in.

Eventually, the people will figure it out. Pain and suffering does that.

People will begin to wonder why they don't have something good another state has...

"My brother's hospital bill was next to nothin' while cousin Billy Bob sat at home and suffered with the same thing, why come?"

And redstate was where we had to move to work. Sorry. Would rather have been in blue.

we all do.

Just keep it up Pukes, please.

2014...The House...and thousands of local positions in every city, county and state across America.

Oh ya and,

"When the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare in June, justices ruled states could opt out of the Medicaid expansion. The decision threatens to leave 3 million of the poorest Americans without health coverage..."

Thanks to the Activist Haters on the SC...we want to be rid of you too.

I can't believe they really want to suffer and die needlessly. But they will...if they don't organize and change the power dynamics.

Tragic, and hard to fix with gerrymandering.

People have become so flooded with corporate propaganda that they couldn't see the forest for the trees.

another thread full of people with no empathy blaming everyone in red states because Republicans get elected.

Of course what they're too ignorant to grasp is that the people being targeted by this are mostly minorities that vote for Democrats, but hey, our faces don't need noses anyway!

and a basis for people to mobilize for that purpose.

Will be ousting Rick Scott's evil ass in 2 years in spectacular fashion. Tired of this bullshit war on the poor and disadvantaged.

Moonshine will cure them, Such Fools.

The hospitals and health providers in their states will stage a revolution if they refuse.

...for when they run again.

It is crazy that people who need help most vote for the people who are bound and determined not to give it to them?

I don't know why my cat carries around a pink mouse toy and yowls at it three times a day either.

also the Media lies so it is hard for the old and poor to get the truth. The News Media should be forced to tell the truth as much as possible or be put out of business, also the Churches are telling people how to vote, which I have a big problem with, these Churches should be paying taxes like everyone else. A small Church making a small amount should be exempt.

When reagan deregulated our media, that belongs to the people, that was the way to get the masses propagandized. Unbelievably there has been no attempt to bring those regulations back. Of course, occasionally we hear from an owned gop'er touting the lie that reinstatement of THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE is censoring the press (that they buy).
If this was re-instated, the truth would again, take hold quickly. IMO, many DINO's do not want real journalism either. The truth can extremely change things and most often in a progressive direction.

Fairness Doctrine, citizens united, electronic voting, medicare for all, there is a direct correlation among these and they are all aimed at the head of each (especially vulnerable) citizen.

If the populace in these States actually are allowed to improve their circumstances, they would be harder to manipulate and would respond less to the "fear-based" politics of the GOP. Misery = manipulation.

J

Obama can do to still cover these people, federal enrollment?

These Repub governors would start screaming states right and have the whole issue in the courts again. Medicaid is a state-level program. There isn't a federal level Medicaid, and that's the problem here.

care about poor people.

states and into one of the civilized ones.

And doesn't the federal government set up its own exchanges if the state doesn't cooperate? I know it does for universal coverage but does that apply for Medicaid coverage, too?

On edit: Oh, I see, they have the option of opting out of the Medicaid part.

Idiots.

I don't think it even has anything to do with health care....to these Governors. It's just about posturing.

It won't last.... but it will be a pain in the ass for a while.


And I think there's just as much "southern" thinking in almost all 50 states. I've never been to a state where I didn't see prejudice. PA was one of the WORST. VT of course was one of the least.

It's just in the South prejudice has been thoroughly institutionalized since before 1776. It has a firmer foundation there than elsewhere. The West is trying to become the South it seems. (TX is not the South. Cowboys and longhorns are not Southern. They ride English in VA. No one wore a cowboy hat in the South until the late 50's when Nashville became the country music capital.)

I live in Tn., recently we were ranked 50 in dental care. As a heart patient, I am aware of the very close relationship that dental health has with heart disease.
Besides being cosmetically unattractive, lack of dental care can kill. It is very painful and a huge contributor to overall health.

there is limited dental coverage on medicaid. But it's extremely rare and most dentists won't accept it.

I was on Medicaid up until a couple of years ago and there were a lot of things it wouldn't cover. I remember it wouldn't cover an asthma nebulizer i needed. Right-wingers love to say that Medicaid is "free health care", i can tell you first hand that its definitely not.

although it only covered full dental for children. For adults, it would pay for extractions and maybe a few select other procedures.

It was also difficult to find a dentist who would take it outside of a community health center or university practice.

These is just posturing, they will roll over and take medicaid. Their top donors are doctors, hospitals, health insurance companies, they all will make tons of money off medicaid. Doctors will get more patients, hospitals won\t have to absorb ER care, and health insurance will get lower rates because the people who stiff the system will have coverage. Insurance companies will pay less for ER when the non paying ER patients become paying patients because of medicaid
Money talks, donors will put the pressure and the GOP will answer to their real masters.

Tens of thousands or even more people will suffer and die as a result of the refusal to implement the president's plan.
The health insurance industry and health care for profit should have been repudiated years ago.
Alan Grayson needs to reiterate his speech about the Republican plan for health care reform:
1. Don't get sick.
2. If you do get sick, die quickly.
This is the essence and effect of their approach to health care.
Damn them to hell.

We gotta hope the Hospital's lobby hard enough for these assholes to accept the money, otherwise there's going to be some more dead bodies piling up courtesy of the GOP. Its what they do best, unfortunately.

southerners vote mostly for repugs right?

end of story.

Southerners are proud of the way they can take political and governing abuse. Having lived in teh South for over twenty years, I've heard and seen it up close. Also, they don't want to be seen as the moochers they decry. Some self esteem issues here, from the individual to the collective cultural body. They pay for this self-deprivation in so many ways that they probably don't even recognize.

Self denial of basic human necessities in the constitution's claim for "the general welfare" should not be seen as a lesser virtue than their governors' profiteer values.

themselves. Sad but true. And now they'll probably vote against medicaid expansion...for themselves. Stupid asses.

These governors are millionaires. Do you really think they give a shit about you???? NO WAY! Vote these assholes OUT of office in 2014 before they destroy your state. Thank God they didn't get another stab at this country.

If they can't whip 'em or lynch 'em, they'l justl let 'em bleed to death.

So the lynching analogy fails.

Unless we like "dog-whistle" language, where we try to imply that most Medicaid recipients are poor and black.

And the thing is, the people who still block ACA implementation in the South probably can't ACCEPT the idea that there are poor white folks-or, if they do, they dismiss them as "white trash".

The resistance to the ACA in Dixie is still Bourbon politics. IN the 19th Century, people who called themselves Democrats practiced that disgusting, economic-royalist strain of politics-now, people who call themselves Republicans practice it.

There OUGHT to be some way for us to build a progressive, populist alliance of the working class-jobless class majority in that region.

homes, etc. Come on 2014. Lets get rid of these greedy unethical politicians. They are the biggest parasites of all in this country. PARASITES! Give nothing take everything.

That's certainly worked in the past to get recalcitrant state governments in line with federal mandates. Congress might have to get involved, unfortunately. I'm not sure if that can be accomplished strictly by executive order.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott, Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal and Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

Rush and Hannity and Bill-o will never let on that it's their own governors' fault.

Damn liars every one of them! Their real god is Ayn Rand, the goddess of filthy stinking GREED!

The democrats have to totally organize these people and get them to the polls! The bastard republicans will, in effect, KILL THEM! For no damn reason at all except hatred of poor people. And the scum go to church every Sunday and act all holy about their crimes against humanity no doubt!

This is what you vote for this is what you get