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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:42 AM Nov 2012

FBI whistle-blower contacted Eric Cantor on David Petraeus affair

Source: Politico

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor spoke to an FBI whistle-blower two weeks ago who accused then-CIA Director David Petraeus of having an extramarital affair and potentially jeopardizing the security of classified information, according to a news report.

Cantor’s chief of staff, Steve Stombres, later spoke with FBI officials to pass on the accusations from the whistle-blower, the New York Times reported on Saturday night.

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Cantor’s involvement in the Petraeus scandal is the first indication that anyone outside of the FBI knew Petraeus was under scrutiny for an extramarital relationship or potentially leaking classified information.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83681.html?hp=l1

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FBI whistle-blower contacted Eric Cantor on David Petraeus affair (Original Post) kpete Nov 2012 OP
I guess that this whistle-blower will get the same punishment as Assange, right? zbdent Nov 2012 #1
huh? naaman fletcher Nov 2012 #3
Yeah, because all Assange did was contact a member of Congress with his allegations. 24601 Nov 2012 #45
An article from the NY Times - DURHAM D Nov 2012 #2
Huh? former9thward Nov 2012 #19
It was the FBI that was playing footsie with the Republicans in the House. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #20
Sorry but a FBI investigation of the CIA director would have been reported to Holder. former9thward Nov 2012 #21
Two things - (1) It was not an investigation of the CIA director initially. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #23
As to #2, I have no idea. former9thward Nov 2012 #31
I suspect we won't. This story is full of spooks. yardwork Nov 2012 #34
Now that makes sense.... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #27
why would a whistle blower go to Cantor about teh CIA director? pasto76 Nov 2012 #4
Ditto. SoapBox Nov 2012 #5
Me too. But it could be something as simple as friendship/who-this-person-knew. Schema Thing Nov 2012 #7
Maybe Cantor and the GOP are the whistleblowers and they have invented this imaginary person to ciking724 Nov 2012 #9
I read somewhere he was in RobMe's binder of VP picks. Hugin Nov 2012 #10
If you read other stories….. he didn't go directly to Cantor marlakay Nov 2012 #14
Interesting elleng Nov 2012 #18
but why would Reichert go to Cantor??? grasswire Nov 2012 #30
Cantor needs to investigated on this mater the DOJ should pay him a visit. awake Nov 2012 #6
Cantor must be working with Obama Enrique Nov 2012 #8
The Politico article also mentions Rep. David Reichert (R-Wash.), who took the "informant" to Cantor ciking724 Nov 2012 #11
Was the whistle-blower shopping around the information in search of a deal? OakCliffDem Nov 2012 #12
Maybe he was seen as another Colin Powell? LiberalLovinLug Nov 2012 #16
Why is this asshole Cantor even involved with this? ItsTheMediaStupid Nov 2012 #13
You feel bad? My congress guy started it by telling Cantor marlakay Nov 2012 #15
I think Reichert has some exposure on this alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #22
It John2 Nov 2012 #29
Why would a Lebanese woman, an unpaid social liaison to an airforce base in Tampa, go to Reichert? yardwork Nov 2012 #35
The person who went to Reichert was NOT Jill Kelly, but an FBI employee alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #38
An FBI agent has no business going to any congress critter. yardwork Nov 2012 #39
Of course not alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #43
Help us cause him to lose? elleng Nov 2012 #17
Good on Cantor, it sounds like he did the right thing with the information he received. ChillZilla Nov 2012 #24
Probably scared of the CIA. yardwork Nov 2012 #37
This Is Bizarre DallasNE Nov 2012 #25
Betray Us and his Gal Pal: The Eric Cantor Love AStory thousandpaces Nov 2012 #42
For a second I thought that Cantor was the other, other, other woman. Anthony McCarthy Nov 2012 #26
LOL theinquisitivechad Nov 2012 #28
Cantor is Mr. Inside Information. Octafish Nov 2012 #32
well, it amazes me that some affairs are heartily spread by the media newspeak Nov 2012 #33
Beat this drum as often as possible: FBI agent NOT whistleblower but leaker justiceischeap Nov 2012 #36
One Report Did State DallasNE Nov 2012 #44
Report to Congress = whistleblower. Report to press = leak. Got it yet? 24601 Nov 2012 #46
Election thousandpaces Nov 2012 #40
Good first post, and welcome to DU. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #41

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
1. I guess that this whistle-blower will get the same punishment as Assange, right?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:48 AM
Nov 2012

right?

right?

right?

right?

24601

(3,962 posts)
45. Yeah, because all Assange did was contact a member of Congress with his allegations.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:41 PM
Nov 2012

Except that's not what happened. Nice try - except that it wasn't.

And even if a matter is classified, there are ways to communicate is securely to a member of Congress.

And if you are thinking that members don't have security clearances - they have the same as The President and Vice President in the sense that no investigation is performed. Suitability adjudication is the election and all members have access to the classified Authorizations Bills on which they vote. Sadly, not that many actually go and read them because the Capitol's secure spaces are small and not as convenient.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
2. An article from the NY Times -
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:53 AM
Nov 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/us/fbi-said-to-have-stumbled-into-news-of-david-petraeus-affair.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

This Politico article has been posted several times on DU. I consider Politico a Republican rag. Yes?

IMO It appears that the House Republican "leadership" was attempting to keep a secret from the WH. They were probably hoping that Obama would be defeated and their role, and the role of several agencies working against the interest of the President, would never be revealed.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
20. It was the FBI that was playing footsie with the Republicans in the House.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:48 PM
Nov 2012

And yes, the Director is not someone I trust and has been accused in the past of playing politics, including with the AG. The left behind right wing operatives in the Executive branch are still in place.

former9thward

(32,030 posts)
21. Sorry but a FBI investigation of the CIA director would have been reported to Holder.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:55 PM
Nov 2012

He is their boss and nothing that big would not be reported. If you think otherwise you simply do not know DC.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
23. Two things - (1) It was not an investigation of the CIA director initially.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:01 PM
Nov 2012

(2) Why did multiple Republican House members receive the information, including a full briefing of the House Intelligence Committee chair by the FBI on their findings, prior to the WH and the Senate Intelligence Chair even knowing about it?

yardwork

(61,670 posts)
34. I suspect we won't. This story is full of spooks.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:42 AM
Nov 2012

There seem to be a lot of unpaid social liaisons and press liaisons playing key roles in this story.

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
4. why would a whistle blower go to Cantor about teh CIA director?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:03 AM
Nov 2012

Why not the speaker? WHY NOT THE WHITE HOUSE?

perceived by me to be a political move.

ciking724

(78 posts)
9. Maybe Cantor and the GOP are the whistleblowers and they have invented this imaginary person to
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:48 AM
Nov 2012

cover themselves. From the very first, I thought this thing was politically motivated.

But why would they be after their own general, unless he wasn't lock in step with what they were trying get out to the public on Benghazi. This might end up costing them more than their general.

Hugin

(33,167 posts)
10. I read somewhere he was in RobMe's binder of VP picks.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:52 AM
Nov 2012

Very political, especially when you consider the final pick was Cantor's close buddy Ryan.

marlakay

(11,479 posts)
14. If you read other stories….. he didn't go directly to Cantor
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:20 PM
Nov 2012

he went to Dave Reichert Congressman from WA state and he told Cantor who then went to top FBI.

Dave is my congress guy…(didn't vote for him a R) and is also guy who worked with FBI for over 20 years on green river killer and has many friends there. Wouldn't surprise me to find out a friend of his leaked it to him to help the election since this was done two weeks before.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
30. but why would Reichert go to Cantor???
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:13 PM
Nov 2012

Cantor's staff spoke to the informant before the FBI did. Something's amiss about that!!!!

ciking724

(78 posts)
11. The Politico article also mentions Rep. David Reichert (R-Wash.), who took the "informant" to Cantor
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:57 AM
Nov 2012

Also interesting, according to Politico, is that the FBI had been investigating the general for several months when Cantor took the information to the FBI Director.

It sounds to me like they were the "blackmailers."

OakCliffDem

(1,274 posts)
12. Was the whistle-blower shopping around the information in search of a deal?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:02 PM
Nov 2012

Maybe Cantor's office were the only ones to offer up a Quid pro Quo. The questing of the hour is "Just what did Cantor have to gain from Petraeus's resignation?"

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
16. Maybe he was seen as another Colin Powell?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:30 PM
Nov 2012

Or like Richard Clarke. Someone who used to work for and pledge loyalty to THEM, and since has decided to work for THE OTHERS. He was THEIR man in Iraq, and then had the gall to accept working for Obama after the previous election. So someone knew something that they could use as leverage if it came down to it. Cantor thought he had something to use in his back pocket, so the only thing to do was to nip it in the bud and to open up about it and subsequently resign.

ItsTheMediaStupid

(2,800 posts)
13. Why is this asshole Cantor even involved with this?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:37 PM
Nov 2012

My congressman, the grandstanding dickhead.

Please God let him lose the next election.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
22. I think Reichert has some exposure on this
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:59 PM
Nov 2012

Cantor actually did the right thing: he reported a leak to the relevant agency.

Reichert heard the leak and brought it to cantor. For what purpose? It's not like Reichert doesn't know procedure for this sort of thing either. He was a detective for 20 years and Sheriff of King County (Seattle) for eight years. I wouldn't be surprised if he had some criminal liability in this matter.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
29. It
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:56 PM
Nov 2012

seems to me, things were kept from the Whitehouse and Eric Holder. Eric Cantor seems to be elevated here as if he was more important than the Executive Branch. Why would this person go to Reichart, instead of through his chain of command? It seems like that operation incident where Eric Holder didn't even know what his own Justice Department was doing. If I was the Obama Administration, I would make some heads roll. The same with Eric Holder and the Department he heads. It is not good to have your subordinates more loyal to people like Eric Cantor in the GOP. The same goes with this Benghazi incident and a certain ex Bush intelligence operative getting access to Chris Stephen's Diary. They may have some people working in their Administration looking to bring down the Obama Administration by reporting to the GOP.

yardwork

(61,670 posts)
35. Why would a Lebanese woman, an unpaid social liaison to an airforce base in Tampa, go to Reichert?
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:46 AM
Nov 2012

Reichert is a Republican in Seattle, Washington. How does Jill Kelley even know Reichert? She's down in Tampa playing unpaid social liaison to the airforce base there, and fielding angry emails from the head of the CIA's other girlfriend.

The spooks all fell down on their faces. You can't make this up.

I believe that this was not a plot to undo the president. I believe it is a bunch of spies behaving badly, brought down by lust, jealousy, and pride.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
38. The person who went to Reichert was NOT Jill Kelly, but an FBI employee
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:19 PM
Nov 2012

You're misunderstanding the story.

Why would the FBI employee go to Reichert? Because of every GOP member of Congress, Reichert probably has the best connections in the FBI, since he worked with the FBI for 20 years on the Green River Killer case, and was Sheriff of Seattle for 8 years.

yardwork

(61,670 posts)
39. An FBI agent has no business going to any congress critter.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:53 PM
Nov 2012

No matter which version of the facts we're being fed, the story stinks to high heaven.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
43. Of course not
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:05 PM
Nov 2012

That's not in question.

In any case, there is only one version of this aspect of the story. It was not Jill Kelly who went to Reichert or Cantor.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
25. This Is Bizarre
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:19 PM
Nov 2012

This whistle blower looks to have been wanting to embarrass Obama and Cantor was unprofessional not to call this to the attention of the Obama administration since it involved a possible compromise of national security. The House ethics committee should look into Cantor's handling of this manner.

thousandpaces

(2 posts)
42. Betray Us and his Gal Pal: The Eric Cantor Love AStory
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:58 PM
Nov 2012

Petraeus is a Republican, Cantor is a Republican, The Whistler Blower is a Republican, the shame would be on the Republicans just prior to a Presidential race. Do you believe they did not discuss this with Rove, Koch Brothers, Romney, all the attached minions to this campaign? Why would this possibly be embarrassing to the President? Eric Cantor sat on confidential security related issues until after the election. He should be investigated as to why he did not follow any procedure when National Security had been breached by the so called hero who did not have enough honor to step down prior to being outed. There is a UTUBE video out with his gal pal announcing just a monthago:
"In an Oct. 26 speech at the University of Denver, she said that Libyan militants had attacked the post to retrieve some fellow fighters who’d been taken prisoner at the nearby CIA annex. She also seems to suggest that Petraeus himself knew about it, implying that he may have been her source. Here’s the relevant passage from the speech, transcribed in full here by Foreign Policy’s Blake Hounshell.

Now, I don’t know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had actually, um, had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that’s still being vetted.

The challenging thing for General Petraeus is that in his new position, he’s not allowed to communicate with the press. So he’s known all of this — they had correspondence with the CIA station chief in, in Libya. Within 24 hours they kind of knew what was happening."
The full story of Broadwell’s access to Petraeus’s world at the CIA is still not clear, but it appears to have been intimate, perhaps problematically so. The Wall Street Journal now reports that FBI investigators found classified documents on her computer. That Petraeus’s relationship may have jeopardized sensitive intelligence would seem to remain the strongest case for his resignation.

Petraeus pillow talked to an unstable egomaniac, and our nation was, possible has, put at risk. Eric Cantor, fellow egomaniac, sweetened the deal by sitting on the story until it would do the Republicans least harm, but to hell with rest of his country.
Traitors, one and all.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
33. well, it amazes me that some affairs are heartily spread by the media
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:38 AM
Nov 2012

and others are not even mentioned. to me, this is "much ado about nothing." the media is making it into a scandal. yeah, yeah, he had an affair, but president obama should have cleaned house the first term, instead of allowing little boot's loyal foot soldiers remain. when obama appointed patreaus as CIA director, my jaw literally dropped.

i remember when little boots got rid of those who actually had more integrity and placed "loyalists" into the FBI, CIA and justice department. leaving them in place, is one way to get burned big time, especially by a rabid media. also remember when little boots wanted his fekkin war with iraq, and those generals that didn't agree with him went bye-bye.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
36. Beat this drum as often as possible: FBI agent NOT whistleblower but leaker
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:49 AM
Nov 2012

The only thing that could possibly make him a whistleblower is if he uncovered info that the FBI was trying to cover-up the investigation. If that's the case, then yes, this agent is a whistleblower, otherwise, he was leaking information on an ongoing investigation. From the current reports, this agent just "tattled" to a Republic Representative (doesn't matter if this Rep was previously FBI, the agent should have known better) about an ongoing investigation. That is leaking, leaking, leaking. Naming this agent a whistleblower without facts that actually outline how he's a whistleblower is shoddy reporting. And it seems it's the Republics that are trying to paint this agent as a whistleblower and not a leaker to make them look better about the whole thing.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
44. One Report Did State
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:13 PM
Nov 2012

That this "whistleblower" had not applied for whistleblower protection so you could be on to something about this being a leak instead. Reading between the lines it seems that the FBI was already on the case when Cantor went to the FBI and that takes some of the sting out of Cantor being able to use this to go after Obama.

thousandpaces

(2 posts)
40. Election
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:35 PM
Nov 2012

Why in the world is this not headline news? Eric Cantor bypassed National Security, during an election period, to not inform on a Republican national hero who was outed by a Republican ' whistle blower Rep. Dave Reichert, R-Washington', for a period of weeks? And this so called national hero failed to alert authorities, the President, and/or the committee for National Security he had possibly compromised his job until he was outed, but hey, the White House, the CIA AND President Obama are thought be the head of some massive cover-up? So now one can only wonder...did Cantor the pitt bull of the righteous inform Rove, the Koch brothers, (since they are his employers)? Did he notify Mitch McConnell, Romney or Boehner before election night? Was this arranged complicity at the risk of National Security to not shake up an election? It has since been established the national hero's gal pal is a bit of a whack job AND gave a speech which has turned up on U Tube revealing secret bunkers for the CIA in Libya. How many have been put at risk by her indiscretion? How is it Eric Cantor is not being called up before the Home Land security and National Security Committee for sitting on valuable information concerning a preach in our security system? I agree there needs to be a timeline here. When people knew, and why they did not follow proper procedure until AFTER the election.

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