Boehner Tells House G.O.P. to Fall in Line
Source: NY Times
WASHINGTON On a conference call with House Republicans a day after the partys electoral battering last week, Speaker John A. Boehner dished out some bitter medicine, and for the first time in the 112th Congress, most members took their dose.
Their party lost, badly, Mr. Boehner said, and while Republicans would still control the House and would continue to staunchly oppose tax rate increases as Congress grapples with the impending fiscal battle, they had to avoid the nasty showdowns that marked so much of the last two years.
Members on the call, subdued and dark, murmured words of support even a few who had been a thorn in the speakers side for much of this Congress.
It was a striking contrast to a similar call last year, when Mr. Boehner tried to persuade members to compromise with Democrats on a deal to extend a temporary cut in payroll taxes, only to have them loudly revolt.
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Can you imagine Nancy Pelosi needing to wait two years after becoming Speaker needing to tell her caucas to fall into line? This is just a reminder that one of the underreported stories is that Boehner is one of the weakest speakers in the history of the House. The reason why he walked away from "grand bargain" negotiations was not his fault, but that he discovered that he would not be able to get his members to vote for ANY package that could make President Obama look like he could close a deal. In other words, Boehner knew he had to fail on purpose!
The media has given Boehner a tremendous free pass in comparison to Nancy Pelosi. Remember all the attention on Bart Stupak? The fact of the matter is that Boehner knows that he needs to look over his shoulder at Kantor and Ryan and the moment he strays from the Grover Norquist tax pledge, they Norquist and Limbaugh will replace him with someone more malleable.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)I assume that is because of the loss of several teaparty members and the fact that all the idiotic obstruction stuff didnt work these past 4 years... Obama still won.
elleng
(131,006 posts)we all are living with very slow pace of recovery. PrezO did win, after HUGE efforts and despite all the repug games and in spite of the economy, but so much more failed or took so much time and effort.
Need more than loss of 'several' teaparty members, like eric cancer who is still with them.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)They wanted Obama to fail.
cstanleytech
(26,302 posts)They "needed" him to fail so they decided the only way to achieve that was by trying to destroy the country but they failed at destroying it as we are still here as a nation and they failed at getting control of the whitehouse thankfully.
Joe Bacon
(5,165 posts)Make no mistake. The Republicans will vote out impeachment articles against Obama. And we'll hear all their pals in the main$tream media defend them.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)the President at the WH they will start a campaign to kick him out.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)besides I dont think they have enough votes to block an alliance of moderate Rs and moderate Ds. In the House they only need a simple majority.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)school bus.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)let alone a school bus
Prisca Theologia
(3 posts)Discounted by the mainstream, unliked by normal Republicans (who may scapegoat it a bit). The Tea Party Revolution is over...
ISW
(81 posts)send the President a bill with the tax results that he wants. If they don't, I hope the president holds steady and we go off the cliff. It will be the only way that we get both the tax revenues and the reduction in military spending that is needed.
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)Can you imagine Pelosi negotiating by saying that she is such a weak speaker and her caucas is so crazy that she can't offer or propose squat?
elleng
(131,006 posts)tho we, + the economy, can't wait, could mean PrezO going to the people and then actually causing them to fear losing their seats in '14.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)blah, blah, blah.
He's got YEARS of obstructionism on his record...and it will take years to show the majority of America, that he and the Pukes are finally willing to do the correct thing.
I'm not even holding my breath.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)falling into line. They control everything he does. They would be better off with a more crazed teabagger and not a waanabe one.
toby jo
(1,269 posts)they were contrite.
I don't know if they've got enough 'move' in em, but they've noticed.
This might be a plum time for a 3rd party to make a move. These Republicans might just go the way of the Whigs and Federalists.
ItsTheMediaStupid
(2,800 posts)...they were contrite....
These guys have completely forgotten who they are supposed to represent and spend all their time kissing billionaire butt.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Cartoon video.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101778431
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)support. Pelosi could get the votes but I guess too many votes like that would be the end of Boner.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)AndyA
(16,993 posts)Nancy Pelosi could do better than he has even if she never showed up for work!
The only thing he's been successful at is slowing down the pace of the recovery, but that was because HE was towing the line, and was being controlled by the wack jobs on the far right.
If Democrats had retained control of the House, and Pelosi remained Speaker the last two years, we'd be in MUCH better shape economically than we are now.
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)Look at the quotes in the article. Several House Republicans are already distancing themselves from Boehner statements that he plans to negotiate with the President saying that they need to be consulted BEFORE any proposals are made. Really?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)when negotiations commence.
jonthebru
(1,034 posts)Nuke 'em 'til they glow.
Kennah
(14,277 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)After a month or so Boner will be slapped back into tea bot shape.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)He needs to strip away the extremists and convince the moderate GOP to vote with the Democrats .... At least once, to overcome this debacle ....
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)from a statistical standpoint .... The actual 'Tea Party' caucus was about 80-90 members - It has recently decreased ....
If he knows what's best for the country and realizes he needs to craft DEMOCRATIC like legislation that most Democrats would support, then surely he can strip a few less strident members from the GOP side ....
Not saying he will, but he certainly could, and it would end the national nightmare ....
InsultComicDog
(1,209 posts)are already blasting him for it
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)his signals from the mothership apparently haven't arrived to tell him to go home?
seems to me a party that wasn't elected to anything at all seems to be a third participant in this process. What I mean by that are the pundits and the media. I just get the feeling just like in the election, they are cheering for the Republican agenda. So we have to fight both. I always thought their job was just to report the news and not take one side over the other. If president Obama decides to not do anything on this tax issue with the Republicans, I think the media should just report it as news. I don't think they should embellish the danger of going off this cliff either to scare the American Public. It is just a power move by the President with what he has to use, in order to gain an end. I do not think it will be Dooms day if it happens. The congress still has to present a budget to the president and he will have a lot more revenue to spend. They have to spend it on something. Presenting a tax cut for 98 percent of the people is a good idea too. If the Republicans want to reject it, then it is on them. They can also negotiate cuts for the Defense as well as entitlements from ground zero.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)or both? I guess this depends on how one defines "fail".
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)I would think that 98 percent would at least entail making the Bush tax cuts permanent and repealing Obamacare. I recall that some House Republicans were insisting that the House threaten default on this. Also, remember the Balance Budget Amendment along with a 2/3 vote requirement for raising taxes?
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)TomCADem
(17,390 posts)...They were also predicting that Romney would win by a wide margin.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I would imagine that statement is simply political posturing, however I guess one may take it both literal and as absolute truth if it's convenient to one's position...
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)totally political posturing, which I guess is another way of making my point:
re: how the GOP always wants it both ways: whining & playing the victim one
minute, then boasting & bragging the next.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Hugabear
(10,340 posts)I happened to catch Mark Levin today, he was practically frothing at the mouth, he was so pissed at Boner.