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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:20 PM Nov 2012

OFFICIAL: PETRAEUS PARAMOUR EMAILED WOMAN IN FLA

Source: AP


BY ADAM GOLDMAN AND KIMBERLY DOZIER
ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A senior U.S. military official says the author who had an affair with David Petraeus sent harassing emails to a woman who was the State Department's liaison to the military's Joint Special Operations Command.

The official says 37-year-old Jill Kelley in Tampa, Fla., received the emails from Petraeus biographer Paula Broadwell that triggered an FBI investigation.

The official was not authorized to discuss the case publicly and spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Another person who knows Kelley and Petraeus confirmed their friendship and said she saw him often.



Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PETRAEUS_RESIGNS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

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OFFICIAL: PETRAEUS PARAMOUR EMAILED WOMAN IN FLA (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2012 OP
I really don't care who has sex with whom. But state secrets sharings is wrong. uppityperson Nov 2012 #1
State secrets are wrong! pocoloco Nov 2012 #40
True 99.999% of the time :) pam4water Nov 2012 #44
i dont know if men do this, but, why do these other women expect a cheater not to cheat. seabeyond Nov 2012 #2
never thought donnasgirl Nov 2012 #3
Because their cheating is a passionate, "for the ages" romance Alekei_Firebird Nov 2012 #13
i am a pragmatic soul. that gets in the way of this kind of thinking. nt seabeyond Nov 2012 #14
Not only that... HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #17
that is the point. yes. nt seabeyond Nov 2012 #24
Anyone who'll cheat with you is capable of cheating on you. n/t Qutzupalotl Nov 2012 #43
exactly: cheat with me, cheat on me! Carolina Nov 2012 #63
Is there info about an affair between Petraeus and Jill Kelley? JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2012 #65
today, it is looking more like kelly's were jsut friends and there is much more to the story. seabeyond Nov 2012 #66
Oh man... SoapBox Nov 2012 #4
I can't help feeling a little impressed. TWO?! Both under 40, too. aletier_v Nov 2012 #6
lol that's right support our vets!! kooljerk666 Nov 2012 #8
I'm still chuckling about the title of that book... SoapBox Nov 2012 #9
Your DU name here is fitting, I must say. What a really crass thing to say...ir reflects poorly on CTyankee Nov 2012 #26
I could smell the sarcasm of that post at 500 paces SemperEadem Nov 2012 #33
Not if one can read. Which I can. CTyankee Nov 2012 #35
sorry it reminded me of an old recruiting commericial............ kooljerk666 Nov 2012 #41
I laughed Skittles Nov 2012 #60
I did, too SemperEadem Nov 2012 #67
oh yeah Skittles Nov 2012 #69
This situation appears to be about security breaches and rury Nov 2012 #5
Well, somebody's britches breached. nt Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #7
LOL timber84 Nov 2012 #29
STOP IT ELEANOR Skittles Nov 2012 #61
check out this article aletier_v Nov 2012 #22
I'd consider the source here. dawn frenzy adams Nov 2012 #32
There's a link to the youtube video aletier_v Nov 2012 #42
This Might Get Good colsohlibgal Nov 2012 #10
Does Jerry Springer know about this? jsr Nov 2012 #11
We are so naughty here in FL :P darkangel218 Nov 2012 #12
I guess FL had to be involved in something like that. LisaL Nov 2012 #15
I would be embarrassed if it were my state...but maybe standards are different here... CTyankee Nov 2012 #25
Still mad that i dont like Italy? lol!! nt darkangel218 Nov 2012 #28
well, no, but it reinforces something I do not particularly like. Sorry if it doesn't please you... CTyankee Nov 2012 #31
The woman, Jill Kelley lives in FLA underthematrix Nov 2012 #16
I want details! Evergreen Emerald Nov 2012 #18
Has anyone else noticed, both Petreaus alleged mistresses husbands are named Scott darkangel218 Nov 2012 #19
Oh, and both husbands are DOCTORS!, darkangel218 Nov 2012 #20
and there's a twin sister, almost out of a movie script, really. aletier_v Nov 2012 #21
holy shit thats not good!! darkangel218 Nov 2012 #23
this surprised me more than the affair aletier_v Nov 2012 #27
It definitely sounds like classified information to me. underthematrix Nov 2012 #39
Kick (nt) muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #30
It appears paula's about to get her own education... SemperEadem Nov 2012 #34
interesting fox article - apparently ANOTHER party involved aletier_v Nov 2012 #36
That is weird. I don't think this is being reported by anyone else. Glimmer of Hope Nov 2012 #51
Something smells here to me. With our government potentially spying on everyone, why rhett o rick Nov 2012 #37
where's the evidence that Petraeus was not under surveillance? underthematrix Nov 2012 #45
Did Betrayus just have one "extramarital affair"? 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #38
Don't think so now aletier_v Nov 2012 #47
It appears from the evidence underthematrix Nov 2012 #48
I corrected my accusatory OP 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #52
so he couldn't have been banging Kelley since the FBI found no emails to that effect? olddad56 Nov 2012 #57
Probably. Usually, a man doesn't begin a series of 1monster Nov 2012 #49
I'm just now hearing on ABC News, that Jill Kelley was "just a friend" 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #53
I just read a post on DU which said the same and have added a disclaimer to my post. 1monster Nov 2012 #54
I'll repeat my current interpretation of Patraeus Affair aletier_v Nov 2012 #58
the other woman is now outed: amborin Nov 2012 #46
It appears Broadwell was sending harassing and underthematrix Nov 2012 #50
makes one wonder if he was banging them both. olddad56 Nov 2012 #56
I read somewhere that Jill Kelley is a Social Liaison and not employed by the State Department. ciking724 Nov 2012 #68
Effective post-election cilla4progress Nov 2012 #55
What a cluster mess of slime balls. PufPuf23 Nov 2012 #59
Kick (nt) muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #62
Forget Gen. Jack Ripper, how about Gen. James Matoon Scott "Seven Days in May" ??? winstars Nov 2012 #64

pam4water

(2,916 posts)
44. True 99.999% of the time :)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:21 PM
Nov 2012

Still think Gen. Petraeus should have picked his biographer base on something other then how much he'd like to sleep with her.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
2. i dont know if men do this, but, why do these other women expect a cheater not to cheat.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:25 PM
Nov 2012

i find that to be the funniest thing, that a woman cheats with a man, and does not expect the same behavior.

just wow.

Alekei_Firebird

(320 posts)
13. Because their cheating is a passionate, "for the ages" romance
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:54 PM
Nov 2012

Whereas all the other instances of cheating are just tawdry and cheap.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
17. Not only that...
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:59 PM
Nov 2012

But if a guy is cheating on his wife, what makes his mistress think he won't cheat on her? A leopard doesn't change its spots.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,354 posts)
65. Is there info about an affair between Petraeus and Jill Kelley?
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:05 AM
Nov 2012

Or are they simply friends? I haven't seen anything suggesting otherwise.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
66. today, it is looking more like kelly's were jsut friends and there is much more to the story.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:10 AM
Nov 2012

yesterday afternoon, none of this was nearly as intriguing. the affair is the least, in interesting, from what i am reading this morning, in the development of the story.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
9. I'm still chuckling about the title of that book...
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:37 PM
Nov 2012

"All In: The Education of General David Petraeus"

Yup! He's gett'n one hell of an education!

p.s...oh good gawd...I was reading her page at Wikipedia.

"Broadwell grew up in Bismarck, North Dakota, and attended Century High School, where she was homecoming queen and valedictorian of the class of 1991.[8]"

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
26. Your DU name here is fitting, I must say. What a really crass thing to say...ir reflects poorly on
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:56 PM
Nov 2012

you. Or perhaps you didn't know that.

Well, now you do.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
33. I could smell the sarcasm of that post at 500 paces
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:06 PM
Nov 2012

it's tragic that you didn't. Seems really is required these days.

 

kooljerk666

(776 posts)
41. sorry it reminded me of an old recruiting commericial............
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:16 PM
Nov 2012

and I thought that was funny.

I am not quite sure what disturbed you.

I spend a lot of my time trying to get more care for vets like the jobs program & an increase in vets benefits.

So put me on ignore.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
69. oh yeah
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:23 PM
Nov 2012

I have five brothers and no sisters and am a military veteran, so I have a wonderfully warped sense of humor for a gal

rury

(1,021 posts)
5. This situation appears to be about security breaches and
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:54 PM
Nov 2012

the potential compromising of Petraeus' email account, rather than sex.

dawn frenzy adams

(429 posts)
32. I'd consider the source here.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:59 PM
Nov 2012

The link you provided is to Arutz Sheva, which, is a fiercely pro-Zionist publication. It appears they are no friend of the Obama Administration.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
42. There's a link to the youtube video
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:18 PM
Nov 2012

Tempted to add scathing sarcasm but really, just too tired of the inability to do simple thinking.


colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
10. This Might Get Good
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:40 PM
Nov 2012

This author seems a bit like Glenn Close's character in "Fatal Attraction". Rabbits better be on alert.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
16. The woman, Jill Kelley lives in FLA
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:58 PM
Nov 2012

and is the liaison between the State Department and the military's Joint Special Command http://www.salon.com/2012/11/11/official_petraeus_paramour_emailed_woman_in_florida/ - which is the person Paula Broadwell was harassing and threatening. Jill Kelley asked for FBI for "protection and help finding who it was sending her the threantening emails" and Petraeus and Broadwell also discussed the situation in emails.

There's some reason Diane Feinstein changed her mind about Petraeus' resignation. I'm thinking she got more information about the situation.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
21. and there's a twin sister, almost out of a movie script, really.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:18 PM
Nov 2012

The doctor coincidence is very strange, isn't it?

BTW, freepers found a video Broadwell where she quite likely is discussing classified information.


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/161964#.UKAbzodtKyc

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
23. holy shit thats not good!!
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:30 PM
Nov 2012

Obviously this lady has no clue how to keep such Intel confidential. I'm glad they put a stop to this. What a mess..

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
27. this surprised me more than the affair
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:57 PM
Nov 2012

It's unbelievable she'd talk this up in a fricking public presentation.

I don't know if her discussion is classified but wow,
why even cast the doubt? She's on dangerous ground.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
39. It definitely sounds like classified information to me.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:09 PM
Nov 2012

If the information is accurate, where did she get it from? I imagine both she and Petraeus are going to jail.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
34. It appears paula's about to get her own education...
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:11 PM
Nov 2012

about "Interception of a Communique in Transit", which is a federal offense under the wiretapping statutes.

it applies to hacking into email accounts...

(sarcasm) so when your girlfriend decides to invade your privacy and go snooping in your email account and you bust her, you can bring her up on charges, if you're so inclined. (/sarcasm) <--because that's needed these days.


aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
36. interesting fox article - apparently ANOTHER party involved
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:16 PM
Nov 2012

sounds like yet another party may have tried to blackmail patraeus about Broadwell via Kelley.

Glimmer of Hope

(5,823 posts)
51. That is weird. I don't think this is being reported by anyone else.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:36 PM
Nov 2012

Kelley alerted the FBI about the emails that appeared to be an attempt to blackmail Petraeus, which started the investigation, said the sources.

In addition, the threatening emails might not have come from biographer Paula Broadwell, as widely reported.

Kelley, a Tampa, Fla., resident who is married with three children, and sister Natalie are close friends of the Petraeus' and spent holidays together. And she was not having an affair with the retired, four-star Army general, sources close to the family tell Fox News.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/11/new-details-in-petraeus-scandal-fbi-whistleblower-talked-first-to-house/#ixzz2By519xlT

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
37. Something smells here to me. With our government potentially spying on everyone, why
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:19 PM
Nov 2012

arent we spying on those in sensitive positions? If they found out by accident I will be very disappointed. I believe lower level employees with high level security clearances are watched, esp their emails.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
45. where's the evidence that Petraeus was not under surveillance?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:22 PM
Nov 2012

The FOX HATE NEWS narrative is that Petraeus resigned to prevent him from revealing damaging info against the President. But that doesn't make any sense since Petraeus, as CIA director knew that the Benghazi arena was a CIA operation. He obviously had to know all the details of the operation UNDER HIS OPERATIONAL CONTROL. Stevens and three ex-Navy SEALS were in a CIA safe house in Benghazi. I'm sure Petraeus knew about the Benghazi safe house too. It appears Paula Broadwell also knew about the Benghazi safe house and the increasingly dangerous situation. It is extremely puzzling that the attackers were able to overtake 3 ex-Navy SEALS who were also CIA operatives. The initial report claims the attack was highly organized and conducted with precision. Who does that sound like?

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
38. Did Betrayus just have one "extramarital affair"?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:46 PM
Nov 2012

Like most, I'm mainly concerned about if there was a threat
to national security, or the possibility of that happening.



On edit: to date, it seems there is only one \"other woman\", one Paula Broadw

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
47. Don't think so now
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:25 PM
Nov 2012

Here's text from latest article on Fox,
although Fox is now claiming they were misled about Kelley's real position, i.e. she's not DOD.

Something interesting is happening here.

"Kelley alerted the FBI about the emails that appeared to be an attempt to blackmail Petraeus, which started the investigation, said the sources, who are close friends of the Petraeuses.

In addition, the threatening emails might not have come from biographer Paula Broadwell, as widely reported"


This sounding more and more like a stable, pre-existing affair,
which was well known by others,
which was dug up during the campaign
by somebody like Rove or Romney operatives,
who attempted to drag it in during the election.
but Congress / FBI stonewalled to avoid
letting it be used that way.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
48. It appears from the evidence
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:26 PM
Nov 2012

Kelley and Petraeus were just friends. The FBI came to the conclusion Petraeus and Broadwell were having an affair based on the content of their email exchanges.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
57. so he couldn't have been banging Kelley since the FBI found no emails to that effect?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:20 PM
Nov 2012

that is pizza logic. Who really knows besides the two.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
49. Probably. Usually, a man doesn't begin a series of
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:27 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:11 PM - Edit history (1)

extra-marital affairs in his late fifties if he hasn't before, absent some traumatic change in his personal life, ruling out a "mid-life crisies" because he is past mid life.

If there had been only one woman, I might believe a tired marriage and a sudden, unexpected passion flaring up. But since there were two, and possibly more, no. I suspect that General Petraeus has been indulging in "extremely poor judgement" all along.

On edit: Just read that Petraeus did not have and affair with the woman who was threatened via e-mail and that the e-mails may not have come from the woman with whom he did have the affair. So maybe have been the unexpected attraction and passion...

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
53. I'm just now hearing on ABC News, that Jill Kelley was "just a friend"
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:58 PM
Nov 2012

which I have no reason to doubt, so I changed my post a bit to reflect
this new info.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
58. I'll repeat my current interpretation of Patraeus Affair
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:48 PM
Nov 2012

The affair was an open secret.
After Benghazi, political operatives dug it up in passing
Sent an exploratory email to Kelley,
who is a well-known friend...

something like

"Wouldn't it be a shame if David and Paula showed up on the Internet?"

Kelley probably called Patraeus,
as the blackmailer intended,
but they contacted Congress, etc, etc.
and everyone agreed to squelch it to block the blackmailer.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
46. the other woman is now outed:
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:24 PM
Nov 2012

"Jill Kelley, the State Department's liaison to the military's Joint Special Operations Command, is the woman who was on the receiving end. She lives in Tampa, Florida and according to the AP saw Petraeus "often."

Jill Kelley is not to be confused with pornographic actress and AVN hall of famer, Jill Kelly.

Now that we know that someone from the State Department might have been involved in this love triangle, this situation just got a whole lot murkier."


http://gawker.com/5959611/we-now-know-who-petraeus-other-other-woman-is

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
50. It appears Broadwell was sending harassing and
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:28 PM
Nov 2012

threatening emails to Kelley. But there is not evidence YET that Kelley was having an affair with Petraeus.

ciking724

(78 posts)
68. I read somewhere that Jill Kelley is a Social Liaison and not employed by the State Department.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:00 AM
Nov 2012

She is the wife of a surgeon in Tampa. A State Department person would have not gone to the FBI, I believe.

PufPuf23

(8,802 posts)
59. What a cluster mess of slime balls.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:01 AM
Nov 2012

The saving grace is that the BS is cover for something serious that would question the minds paying attention regarding MIC corruption, croneyism, and MIC outsourcing. lololol so obvious.

POTUS Obama has no excuse except political debt for employing Petraeus as General or CIA head regardless of this BS.

winstars

(4,220 posts)
64. Forget Gen. Jack Ripper, how about Gen. James Matoon Scott "Seven Days in May" ???
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:28 AM
Nov 2012

Tin Foil or ?????


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