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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:54 PM Nov 2012

Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. could serve jail time in plea deal

Source: Salon


The Illinois Congressman is reportedly negotiating with prosecutors over an alleged misuse of campaign funds

BY JILLIAN RAYFIELD

Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., D-Ill., is reportedly in the midst of negotiating a plea deal that may include jail time over his alleged misuse of campaign funds.

From the Chicago Sun-Times:

“As part of the deal being negotiated by former U.S. Attorney Dan Webb, Jackson would resign his post citing health reasons, plead guilty to misusing campaign funds, repay the campaign funds used illegally and he would possibly serve time in prison, according to the report.”


Jackson is accused of allegedly using those funds to redecorate his home, and reportedly to buy a $40,000 Rolex for a female friend. “No one has pled guilty, but plea discussions are ongoing,” a source told the Sun-Times’ Michael Sneed.

Jackson, who won reelection to his House seat on Tuesday, has recently spent time in the Mayo Clinic to be treated for depression bipolar disorder.

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Read more: http://www.salon.com/2012/11/11/rep_jesse_jackson_jr_could_serve_jail_time_in_plea_deal/
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Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. could serve jail time in plea deal (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2012 OP
And they still reelected him. Beacool Nov 2012 #1
So, they should have voted for a Republican? harmonicon Nov 2012 #2
He should have removed himself from the ballot. Beacool Nov 2012 #3
Why criticize the voters for that? harmonicon Nov 2012 #4
Read below Beacool Nov 2012 #5
Has the attempted purchase of a Senate appointment been the real reason for his hospitalization? Faryn Balyncd Nov 2012 #12
I don't think that Jackson has clean hands politically speaking. Beacool Nov 2012 #16
Anonymous accusations aren't fact. (nt) harmonicon Nov 2012 #13
There was a lot more. Beacool Nov 2012 #15
This is Illinois, after all. Mr.Bill Nov 2012 #18
Jackson should have resigned before the Democratic primary. former9thward Nov 2012 #19
That's irrelevant to the post I was responding to. (nt) harmonicon Nov 2012 #20
No it is not. former9thward Nov 2012 #22
So you think they should have voted for someone else on the ballot? (nt) harmonicon Nov 2012 #23
I already said what should have happened. former9thward Nov 2012 #25
I have. harmonicon Nov 2012 #27
i'm very angry at him for this myself. mopinko Nov 2012 #38
That would be the actions of a reasonable, unselfish person Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #44
Marcus Lewis. alp227 Nov 2012 #30
But would have/should have doesn't change with what voters were faced with. harmonicon Nov 2012 #31
The voters knew what they were getting Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #45
Let's just say he should have gotten zero votes Ter Nov 2012 #32
The Mourdock-Donnelly race was very close before Mourdock made the rape remarks. merrily Nov 2012 #35
He's been on medical leave of absence since June, I believe thesquanderer Nov 2012 #33
That's nice. harmonicon Nov 2012 #34
I wasn't making a judgment. thesquanderer Nov 2012 #40
I would love to see a list of bills that would have gone another way had Jackson been present... harmonicon Nov 2012 #41
a hard list to compile thesquanderer Nov 2012 #42
Yep. harmonicon Nov 2012 #43
He should also have to pay any costs for a special election if one is needed Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #6
I'll second that motion. SoapBox Nov 2012 #7
A $40,000 watch!? What the fuck does it DO? NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #8
It's a leg spreader underthematrix Nov 2012 #9
I hope it was worth the prison time! NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #11
Damn, that must be one huge watch. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #24
LOL lalalu Nov 2012 #28
Because women do it for men's watches? merrily Nov 2012 #36
Holy Crap! cheriemedium59 Nov 2012 #14
I'm trying to understand why underthematrix Nov 2012 #10
Where do you think he got the idea from? Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #17
I haven't trusted his father since Shankapotomus Nov 2012 #21
Maybe I'm hypocritical Beakybird Nov 2012 #26
The governor does not get to replace him. murielm99 Nov 2012 #29
I have no comment on JJ, Jr. However, your comment is puzzling. merrily Nov 2012 #37
They need a strong, experienced hand in that congressional seat with seniority. AngryAmish Nov 2012 #39

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
2. So, they should have voted for a Republican?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:31 PM
Nov 2012

Someone else on the ballot? Has he not adequately represented his constituents?

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
3. He should have removed himself from the ballot.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:34 PM
Nov 2012

He should have done the right thing and allowed the party to come up with another candidate. I haven't liked Jackson Jr. since 2008. What goes around, comes around.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
4. Why criticize the voters for that?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:39 PM
Nov 2012

I don't know much about the guy, but he's always seemed ok to me. If he's dirty, let the law take care of it. Unless that happens, I don't see what the problem is.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
5. Read below
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:44 PM
Nov 2012

"Illinoispaytoplay.com has learned that a second person with knowledge of Jesse Jackson Jr's attempted purchase of a senate seat may be prepared to offer testimony to the U.S House of Representatives Committee on Ethics that person or persons representing Illinois Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr. approached Blagojevich offering to render the Governor “substantial financial considerations” in exchange for Blagojevich appointing Jackson to the U.S. Senate seat about to be vacated by then President-elect Barack Obama."

http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2012/11/02/house-iinvestigation-of-jesse-jackson-jr-may-widen/

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
12. Has the attempted purchase of a Senate appointment been the real reason for his hospitalization?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:40 PM
Nov 2012


Has the motivation for publicly seeking treatment for depression, and his disappearance from Congress, been to save his skin?

It sounds like a $40K Rolex is a minor diversion.

And that by no resigning and allowing a Democrat not involved in an attempt to buy a Senate appointment, that Republicans have been handed a huge gift.





Beacool

(30,250 posts)
16. I don't think that Jackson has clean hands politically speaking.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:41 PM
Nov 2012

I'm not saying that he's faking his illness, just that there has been a lot trickling bits of info. coming out ever since he was one of the people who was mentioned as having been interested in Blago's offer of payment for Obama's former senate seat.

former9thward

(32,030 posts)
19. Jackson should have resigned before the Democratic primary.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:03 PM
Nov 2012

The district (IL-2) is 90 percent Dem and a Rep will never be elected there. Jackson has been AWOL for more than 6 months. Maybe you define that as representing his constituents but few do. This did not happen over night. He has been investigated over various things, including the Blago affair, for years now.

former9thward

(32,030 posts)
25. I already said what should have happened.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:29 PM
Nov 2012

See posts upthread. This is on Jackson not the voters despite your attempts to blame the victims here.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
27. I have.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:45 PM
Nov 2012

I don't see a reason to criticize people voting for him in the general election in any of this. That's what I responded to. If you have something to say to that, please say it. Otherwise, I don't see how this discussion is relevant to the post that brought me into it.

mopinko

(70,144 posts)
38. i'm very angry at him for this myself.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:42 PM
Nov 2012

or at least resigned before the final day to replace a candidate, and let the party put someone else up.
the whole thing stinks to high heaven.

alp227

(32,037 posts)
30. Marcus Lewis.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:38 AM
Nov 2012

Also a black American, Lewis is a farmer and mail carrier. He ran in JJJ's district as an independent progressive a la Bernie Sanders. Lewis suggested that had JJJ done the plea deal BEFORE the elections Lewis would have won. WLS-TV summarizes his views in questionnaire format:


Does the country need immigration reform? If so, what are your plans?

I support the "DREAM ACT."


Can the budget deficit be controlled only by spending cuts or does the federal government need to raise more revenue? If you favor more revenue, should there be a general tax hike?

I advocate both spending cuts and raising more revenue. We have been living a very unrealistic mindset when it comes to the nation's fiscal house. I support cutting Defense spending and increasing tax rates on the Top 2% of wage earners including tax hikes on income through dividends as in people like Mitt Romney that makes money on money and not through wages. We cannot sustain this type of 'Top Heavy' benefits for the extremely wealthy when all they are doing is 'gaming' the system to the detriment to the bottom 99%. Case in point, a honeybee extracts. Nectar from a flower but unknowingly pollinates the flower so there will be a flower to extract from next year.


Do you believe there is global warming? If so, is any of it man made and can we do anything about it?

Yes, I believe there is global warming. It is all man made and those in the know, confirms it as so. It does not take a genius to see the world is hotter than it was decades before. Just look at the satellite views of Greenland ice cap in June of 2012 and it has "completely" melted in July 2012. We need honesty & candor on these subjects and not leaving spaces for denials because of it will affect business' bottom line. If we keep up this charade, only our children and our children's children will suffer because of cowardice thinking. We can find the solutions to our problems if statesman take the reins and lay aside foolish thinking we can be a greater nation for it.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
31. But would have/should have doesn't change with what voters were faced with.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:18 AM
Nov 2012

If this guy is a good candidate for the job, I hope he throws his hat into the ring again. Maybe he'll have better luck next time.

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
45. The voters knew what they were getting
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:24 PM
Nov 2012

Representative Jackson's behavior was hardly a secret to voters.

 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
32. Let's just say he should have gotten zero votes
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:25 AM
Nov 2012

A lot of Republicans didn't vote for Murdock in super conservative Indiana because of his ridiculous rape comments. We should do the same with our nuts and crooks.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
35. The Mourdock-Donnelly race was very close before Mourdock made the rape remarks.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:11 PM
Nov 2012

Supposedly, the Brown Warren race was very close, too.

Both Warren and Donnelly won by similar margins--and both are pro life candidates, though Donnelly does make an exception for rape and did not put his foot in his mouth spectacularly.

So, I don't know if you can imbue Indiana Republicans with virtue because Mourdock lost. And, you don't know if he lost because of Republicans. It could have been Democrats with good turn out and independents who defeated him.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
33. He's been on medical leave of absence since June, I believe
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:48 AM
Nov 2012

to answer your question, "Has he not adequately represented his constituents?" - hard to represent them, when you're not there.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
34. That's nice.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:49 PM
Nov 2012

I guess you don't know anyone who's ever been sick. If you do, I hope you were ok with it if they were fired for being sick.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
40. I wasn't making a judgment.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:01 PM
Nov 2012

I was just answering the question of how well he has served his constituents.

Though also, since you bring it up, it's not the same as talking about being fired for being sick. First, the job is only for a two year "contract" to begin with. If someone misses the last 6 months of a 2 year job for illness, no matter how compassionate you are, do you think he'd be the best choice to rehire for another two years? Second, on a regular job, if someone is out on an extended illness, the employer can bring in a sub (even while continuing to pay the original worker) so the work still gets done. Who is the sub doing Jackson's work, working with the other house members, introducing/sponsoring bills, and casting votes for his district?

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
41. I would love to see a list of bills that would have gone another way had Jackson been present...
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:36 PM
Nov 2012

to vote on them.

I'm not making a judgement about Jackson either way here, but I am sick and tired of seeing people criticize voters for voting for the representation THEY want in congress.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
42. a hard list to compile
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:55 PM
Nov 2012

because an effective representative can work to make a bill better, or to persuade others to vote his way. That is, a representative's effectiveness can't simply be measured by looking at how much impact his own particular votes had or whether he was ever personally a tie-breaker.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
8. A $40,000 watch!? What the fuck does it DO?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:20 PM
Nov 2012

For that price, it'd better make dinner and do the laundry.

cheriemedium59

(212 posts)
14. Holy Crap!
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:23 PM
Nov 2012

I don't care what party he is in, he must go! Terrible behavior lacking integrity. Sounds like he is hiding his guilt behind a diagnosis of depression/bi-polar. But really he is just a self-centered thief.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
21. I haven't trusted his father since
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:16 PM
Nov 2012

he was caught making that crack about Obama on camera and now I have serious doubts about the son. I wish them well, hope the son gets help but I would prefer if neither one of them continued to be involved in politics. There are many other African Americans in politics serving with distinction, honor and integrity now.

Beakybird

(3,333 posts)
26. Maybe I'm hypocritical
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:33 PM
Nov 2012

I also suspect that Jackson JR went into Mayo Clinic to get sympathy from the Feds. Or maybe he's addicted to mayo.

Whenever a Republican congressman or woman gets caught doing something really immoral, I can't believe it when the constituents send the loser back to Washington.

But when it's us Democrats doing it, I kind of figure that it's protecting the seat from the Republicans.

In this case, I guess it was better to elect him knowing he's going to resign after the election, and the Democratic Governor can replace him.

I also have seen a lot of evidence aired in the media that he was interested in buying Obama's senate seat. If this is true, he's partly responsible for the seat going red in the last election.

I also think that both son and father should stay out of politics.

murielm99

(30,748 posts)
29. The governor does not get to replace him.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:34 AM
Nov 2012

There has to be a special election.

I think he may deal with his legal problems and his mental health problems and end up back in politics. He is innocent until proven guilty. And if he is guilty of something, this is Illinois. He would not be the first to make a comeback.

His wife is still someone to be reckoned with in Illinois politics. She is powerful.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
37. I have no comment on JJ, Jr. However, your comment is puzzling.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:19 PM
Nov 2012

Whenever a Republican congressman or woman gets caught doing something really immoral, I can't believe it when the constituents send the loser back to Washington.

But when it's us Democrats doing it, I kind of figure that it's protecting the seat from the Republicans.


I don't know anyone else's motives. I consider myself fortunate when I know my own motives for certain.

That said, what do you reckon is the motive when Republicans do it?

And why would you assume that Republicans have different motives in voting for Republican candidates than Democrats have when they vote for Republican candidates.

I am not challenging your conclusions in any way. I am just trying to understand what you are saying.

(Edited to remove unintended bolding.)
 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
39. They need a strong, experienced hand in that congressional seat with seniority.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:50 PM
Nov 2012

In my mind there is only one candidate that can fairly represent the voters in that district.

The previous congressman, Mel Reynolds, did time for screwing around with an underaged girl. Does anyone remember "Did I win the Lotto?"

But there a man, a legend of Illinois politics, who served that district well for many, many years. He has more than a decade in seniority, allowing better service for his constituents.

Time is now for Gus Savage.

Gus Savage now!


GUS SAVAGE FOREVER!!

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