Greek MPs approve hefty budget cuts
Source: Guardian
Greek MPs have voted to pass a budget for 2013, paving the way for the country to receive further financial aid. The budget was passed with a comfortable majority, unlike the narrow margin secured last week in a vote on an austerity package and labour reforms.
The legislation will impose deep spending cuts on the country's already battered economy, as international lenders demand further austerity in return for assistance. Antonis Samaras's coalition is expected to win the vote just four days after it only narrowly won approval for a multi-year, 13.5bn (£10.8bn) austerity package.
Thousands of people gathered outside the Greek parliament in Syntagma Square, Athens, to urge MPs to vote down the budget. Leading the protest march were flag-waving unionists with the communist-aligned Pame party followed by private and public sector workers.
The protesters' chants included "Out, out, out with the IMF" and "Hands off workers' rights".
Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/nov/11/greece-2013-budget-vote
The austerity measures were passed on Wednesday. This is the actual budget.
Greece MPs approve new austerity budget amid protests.
Greek lawmakers have approved the 2013 budget involving fresh spending cuts, despite mass public street protests.
The budget was passed by 167 votes to 128. The move was a pre-condition for Athens to be granted a 31.5bn euro (£25bn; $40bn) EU/IMF loan necessary to stave off bankruptcy.
Another austerity package of tax rises and pension cuts was passed last week.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20293058
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)just days ago:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12524229
There is a European union-wide General Strike occurring on November 14!
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)The rich want to do to US what they're doing to Greece...and they'll manage it if we don't stop them.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)There have been recent solidarity marches for those in Europe; here is a video of Occupy Portland doing a large march and being attacked and pepper-sprayed by police:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12524174
brooklynite
(94,634 posts)"Elections have consequences"
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)to gain and keep power. I believe unemployment was 30% in Germany when Hitler rose to power, for example.
The thing is, I believe these "crises" are manufactured AS a power grab opportunity. Greece and Italy both had a Goldman Sachs consultant in power for a while when this all began, so you can see who is sticking their finger in the pie.
In case you didn't know, a few nights ago the Greek citizens demanded a no-confidence vote, and back in October, the Spanish citizens surrounded their parliament by the tens of thousands and demanded it step down. There is a European-wide General Strike happening on November 14!
brooklynite
(94,634 posts)The population of Greece is 10.7 Million. What proportion demanded a no-confidence vote? Even if it was 100,000, that's 1% of the population. In Spain, "tens of thousands" is less than 0.1% of the population. I don't dispute the passion of some groups against austerity policies, but I'm not seeing broad popular support for a different strategy in either case, and I don't tend to buy the "the voters were manipulated into supporting austerity" argument, any more than I bought the GOP's argument that people were too stupid or "entitled" to vote for Romney.
mckara
(1,708 posts)One more austerity program and all your problems will go away.
Thank their elected representatives for shoving their constituents into serfdom!
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)The pension system is basically non-existenc now(pensions below the poverty level don't really count as pensions).
This isn't a bailout...it's vengeance.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)of what's happening to Greece.
marmar
(77,084 posts)nt
hack89
(39,171 posts)the government will literally run out of money in a couple of weeks without loans.
I don't know what the answer is but your suggestion will not fix anything - there will be no pensions, no salaries for public employees, no government services.
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)marmar
(77,084 posts)...... believe it or not, there are alternative economies, all around the world.
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)DallasNE
(7,403 posts)Is it results in lowering aggregate demand and that leads to a further reduction in GDP, meaning the current recession will be made worse. Look, if 5 years of austerity has created 5 years of recession, what do they expect a 6th year of austerity to do -- defy the law of economics and grow the economy -- fat chance of that ever happening. Until Merkel is gone in Germany Europe will remain bogged down in recession. A recession that is likely to pick up speed.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Retirement age up from 65 to 67
A further round of pension cuts, of 5-15%
Salary cuts, notably for police officers, soldiers, firefighters, professors, judges, justice officials; minimum wage also reduced
Holiday benefits cut
35% cut to severance pay
Redundancy notice reduced from six to four months
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20293058
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Endless cuts, or a healthy recovery.
This won't stop until those who have the gold stop ruling.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)and Argentina is currently a very poor example.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Oh well. Go figure.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)and Argentina has significant problems with inflation causing sunstantiial protests.
hack89
(39,171 posts)they did not have a debt crisis - they always had money to fund basic government services. Theirs was a domestic banking crises.
And even then they had to implement austerity measures, raise taxes and borrow billions from Europe and the IMF.