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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:00 PM Nov 2012

Turkey Raps Israel On Gaza, To Discuss With U.S., Egypt

Source: Reuters

ISTANBUL | Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:47am EST
(Reuters) - Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan decried Israeli's air strikes on Gaza on Friday as a pre-election stunt and said he would discuss the crisis with Egyptian President Mohamed Mursi in Cairo this weekend.

Under Erdogan's Islamist-rooted AK Party, Turkey has sought to use its clout as a rising democratic power in the Muslim world to increase its influence in the Middle East, distancing itself from former ally Israel.

Erdogan said he would speak by phone with U.S. President Barack Obama later on Friday and that Ankara was also seeking talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin amid the prospect of a full Israeli ground invasion.

The United States says it has asked Turkey and Egypt to encourage the Islamist Hamas movement that rules Gaza to cease rocket fire into Israel, but Erdogan laid the blame for the deepening crisis firmly on the Jewish state.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/16/us-palestinians-israel-turkey-idUSBRE8AF0TD20121116

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Turkey Raps Israel On Gaza, To Discuss With U.S., Egypt (Original Post) Purveyor Nov 2012 OP
Ugh... MynameisBlarney Nov 2012 #1
I had just read a little bit about Turkey, unrelated to this Puzzledtraveller Nov 2012 #2
The Turkish population is split between conservatives and liberals, like us mainer Nov 2012 #11
Well John2 Nov 2012 #8
I hear ya MynameisBlarney Nov 2012 #10
I hope Israel doesn't move toward using ground forces. iandhr Nov 2012 #3
Nice IDF talking points. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #4
and the Palestinian bombs magically miss Israeli children? dlwickham Nov 2012 #5
yep ccavagnolo Nov 2012 #6
so true. La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2012 #9
I agree! RedstDem Nov 2012 #12
So that would make the Palestinians war criminals. glacierbay Nov 2012 #7

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
2. I had just read a little bit about Turkey, unrelated to this
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:10 PM
Nov 2012

They had made great democratic reforms as a result of the founding of the republic in the 1920's one major one was separation of church and state and other secular reforms. It seems they have been gradually moving back to a religious state, in action if not in name.

mainer

(12,028 posts)
11. The Turkish population is split between conservatives and liberals, like us
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:29 PM
Nov 2012

In Istanbul, they're pretty liberal. I ran into atheists, and know couples living together out of wedlock. Women wear miniskirts and I suspect the majority of medical students are female.

But go east, toward the Syrian border, and things get conservative.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
8. Well
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:02 PM
Nov 2012

I'm all for this. Netanyahu most not drive the Policy. The same case with Hamas. Both of them need to be put on a leash until the adults that matter make the decisions. As far as our Senate, they need to take advice from the President for their consent and not hamper our President to make Foreign Policy issues in our best Interests as well as all the participants. The Congress submits that they represent the Public but who the hell do they think the President represents here! The President should remind them Foreign Policy was also discussed in this election, and the country also decided on the direction of our Foreign Policy. The Congress therefore should help the President all they can and not be trying to undermine what the President was elected to do.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
10. I hear ya
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:14 PM
Nov 2012

but I'm meaning it's gonna get ugly as far a violence goes.
If Israel invades with ground forces, a lot more will die.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
3. I hope Israel doesn't move toward using ground forces.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:17 PM
Nov 2012

So far the dead in Gaza have been mostly Hamas members.

If a ground assault takes place it will no longer be the case because terrorists are cowards... they use civilians as shields.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
4. Nice IDF talking points.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:20 PM
Nov 2012

The dead in Gaza include civilians, including children.

Gaza City is a massive urban area. People who attack cities from the air are war criminals.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
5. and the Palestinian bombs magically miss Israeli children?
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:23 PM
Nov 2012

maybe if they would stop bombing Israel, no more children would end up dead

ccavagnolo

(65 posts)
6. yep
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:54 PM
Nov 2012

sounds about right. one person says its all the Israelis fault, the other the palestinians. seems we've already taken stances on this issue and no ones changing sides. this shit stinks and its the same smell every time a rocket launches. both sides see deaths and its both sides faults for starting it.

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
7. So that would make the Palestinians war criminals.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:58 PM
Nov 2012

Thanks for that admission.
Would that also make the US and the UK war criminals during WWII? After all, we did attack Germany and Japan from the air.

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