David Cameron 'orders new curbs on internet porn'
Source: The Telegraph
The new measures will mean that in future anyone buying a new computer or signing up with a new internet service provider (ISP) will be asked, when they log on for the first time, whether they have children.
If the answer is "yes", the parent will be taken through the process of installing anti-pornography filters, as well as a series of questions on how stringent they wish the restrictions to be, according to a newspaper.
The options include allowing parents to impose timed access limits on explicit material, or preventing children from viewing social networking sites such as Facebook during particular hours of the day.
Ministers will also tell ISPs to impose "appropriate measures" to make sure that those setting the controls are over 18, according to the Daily Mail.
Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/9684797/David-Cameron-orders-new-curbs-on-internet-porn.html
Y'all line up for your Tory censorship now.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)This issue has cropped up in the past and its not solely to do with what may conventionally be classed as porn - its also associated with sites which target children for the purpose of selling.
Originally raised back in May of this year in the UK :
Web giants gang up to fight online porn block saying it is not up to them to 'police' the internet
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2138184/Web-giants-gang-fight-online-porn-block-saying-to-police-internet.html#ixzz2CUprhki0
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)That's been adjudicated in court, at least in the US, and since the Internet is a bunch interconnected servers, it would be impossible to determine who's responsible for policing what. The Internet can't run on any other basis.
I don't think these lawmakers realize just what the consequences of this might be.
As for selling to children, they don't seem to be filtering for sales here, unless I've misread it.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts).
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)hope this doesn't give them any ideas
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)It's such a joke about, porn...men...and the Holy and Pious Christian types.
Put those men out on the road for travel and they can't get to the porn channels on hotel sets fast enough (not to mention strip bars and/or dirty bookstores). Now, with the advent of "porn on the net", they just need a tablet or lap top.
If they were to start more of that kind of baloney talk here, we would suffocate from the HYPOCRISY!
Journeyman
(15,041 posts)Here's a video of him making his pitch in Ottumwa, Iowa. (The guy in the striped shirt at the end of the video doesn't seem too pleased with the plan.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101733232
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)PSPS
(13,615 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)That and to Save the Crown, of course!
behindenemylins
(41 posts)Commie dictation by a Tory. No surprise here.
RC
(25,592 posts)This is another solution looking for a cause. Porn isn't near the problem that the lies, propaganda, greed and subjugation of the Republican party. In fact this is just more of it.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)Cortland DA to head the agency!
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)As long as the parents are in charge, not the government.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)stuck to Net porn, he wouldn't be in the mess he is now.
Just say'n!
Fearless
(18,421 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)AlphaCentauri
(6,460 posts)also about websites who promote self destruction, like the proAna and self cutting websites.
It's irrational to use freedom of expression as an excuse to let people expose young children to adult content or something they don't have the judgment to analyze or discern its content.
It's so weird that websites like Tweeter and Tumblr are becoming sanctuaries for those who wants to promote pornography and denigrate other humans, for example searching google for the words "gay tumblr" will result in hundreds of porn oriented websites instead of or about gay rights, life and struggles.
RC
(25,592 posts)That seems to be the real problem.
AlphaCentauri
(6,460 posts)It shows you what is available, the only responsible party is the person who produce it and distribute that content.
RC
(25,592 posts)Those sites you don't like are located all over the world. The United States is only the World Police where For Profit Wars and oil are concerned. There isn't enough money in banning smut to get serous with banning it anyway. The money is in producing it.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)There is some decent filtering stuff out there - some of it for free. I use on our PC's Qustodio - it gives a good range of choices on what to control and such. Unsure what's good for a Mac tho, or even mobile devices.
As to the OP - I think the Bailey Review went far enough. Give parents the tools. If filtering is going to be in there from the get go, state it "on the package" (so to speak) and if the device or service has the ability to access adult content and the owner or subscriber wants to do so, they can then opt in. This "got kids?" and mandatory install filters thing is too draconian IMO.
Bottom line:
1) Let parents parent...
2) Give parents the tools and make them fully and blatantly aware of their existence,
3) Kids will find the stuff with or without filters if they're intentionally looking for it.
and finally
0) Watch what your kids are doing online! Qustodio does that for me just fine.
AlphaCentauri
(6,460 posts)or parents need parenting
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)There isn't a content filter on the planet that isn't hopelessly broken as is. Mandating them is beyond absurd.
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)And if the user is a parent to insure that they are aware the filters are available.
I know the filters aren't terribly effective but some parents might feel better if they have them.
I don't think it required any user to use them.
alp227
(32,058 posts)Remember, Rick Santorum wanted to crack down on web porno. This year's Republican platform included similar rhetoric.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)high density
(13,397 posts)Endless surveillance, amazing amounts of traffic cameras, and now proposals for mandatory internet filters.
Socal31
(2,484 posts)Thank lawd almighty that relig-nut Santorum couldn't even smell the White House grass.....scary stuff.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Glamrock
(11,802 posts)but I don't get what the big deal is. I don't see it as censorship. Sorry, just don't. This isn't anything like Japan's porn laws which require blurring of all genitalia (I know, what's the point right? But, I digress). Maybe I'm wrong, but I view it as more of an id issue. More along the lines of alcohol or tobacco or, I don't know, porn. I mean, sure, if a kid really wants to see it he's going to. Just like beer, and weed, and playboy. I get that it might be inconvenient to have to install a program and enter a password. But, who is this law hurting, really? Unless the law criminalizes the parent if they don't go through the rigmarole, that is. Seems to me like a responsible thing to do.
There are plenty of parents that just don't. This will, at the very least make them think about it. For at least one second, they'll think about it. Maybe even do something. I don't know. But communism and censorship? Really? I don't get it.
Before the insults begin, I will go on record as
-not having children
-being agnostic
- being a 40 yr. old white male who will let the demographics for aforementioned stats speak for his views on porn
Fire away!
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)They also filter out any site that advocates in favor of gay rights, for example, probably including this one.
Gumboot
(531 posts)Curbing Cameron will happen mercifully soon, at Britain's ballot boxes.
It will be good riddance to another Tory control freak.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I guess that only applies when it comes to porn. Poor Brits will be wanking themselves with no skinflicks if this trend continues.
chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)You could not do anything on the computer without having to override the system It blocked nearly everything. It had to be uninstalled immediately.