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FleetwoodMac

(351 posts)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:08 PM Nov 2012

Iranian Blogger Tortured To Death In Prison

Source: MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute)

Iranian Blogger Who Told Supreme Leader Khamenei 'Your Judicial System... Is Nothing But A Slaughterhouse' Tortured To Death In Prison

After posting on his blog an open letter to Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei accusing him of operating a murder industry against the Iranian people in the name of Islam, Iranian blogger Sattar Beheshti, 35, was told by Iranian authorities that he had crossed the line. He was arrested, and 10 days later, on November 6, 2012, it was reported that he had died in prison under torture.[1]

As the news of Beheshti's death broke, and following international criticism of the Iranian regime, the regime was forced to announce that it was investigating the matter. On November 13, 2012, Majlis National Security Committee member Mohammad Hassan Asfari stated that Beheshti had died of "cardiac arrest" but acknowledged that "several bruises" had been found on his body and that these were being investigated by "forensic experts."[2] Majlis member Hamid Rasaei, on the other hand, denied that Beheshti had been killed by the security forces, and said that this claim was a conspiracy meant to lay the blame on the regime in order to spark unrest among the public that would lead to an uprising against the regime, and to prevent the security forces from acting against outlaws.



Read more: http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/6819.htm

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Iranian Blogger Tortured To Death In Prison (Original Post) FleetwoodMac Nov 2012 OP
People do not need to be pro israel DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #1
And more than that... FleetwoodMac Nov 2012 #2
it's subject Nov 2012 #12
Iran executed 81 people LAST WEEK Mosby Nov 2012 #3
Has there been any investigation of those who were tortured to death sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #4
+1 nt OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #5
It seems like you enjoy deflecting unreadierLizard Nov 2012 #6
Hmm kenfrequed Nov 2012 #7
Seems like common sense to me! n/t Wind Dancer Nov 2012 #9
Who is doing the deflection here? Is this about the horrors of torture sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #16
The subject of the OP is not "US Controlled detention centers," but what happened in Iran. apocalypsehow Nov 2012 #8
Torture was what I saw as the subject of the OP. Torture is a horrific sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #17
Thank you, sabrina. n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2012 #11
Oh for fuck's sake tabasco Nov 2012 #13
Torture bothers me, no matter where it occurs. Why on earth should I have sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #20
Well, that's pretty ironic, eh? bluedigger Nov 2012 #10
I'm reccing so this hateful story gets more views... nt riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #14
Saddened but not shocked. At least the interrogators were arrested. Ash_F Nov 2012 #15
horrible story calilib1966los Nov 2012 #18
Yes indeed. Welcome to DU my friend. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #19
One of the U.S.'s South American torturers, Dan Mitrione, was well known long ago: Judi Lynn Nov 2012 #21

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
1. People do not need to be pro israel
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:11 PM
Nov 2012

To know Iran sucks equally as bad.

A pox on all the children of Abraham, as their God is fond of killing.

FleetwoodMac

(351 posts)
2. And more than that...
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:58 PM
Nov 2012

... I think events such as these forces us to reevaluate where we stand in the world, not only from a strategic perspective, but perhaps more importantly, a moral one.

Notwithstanding the humanity of the matter, we are, through multiple American administrations from Eisenhower to Reagan, partly responsible for the state of Iran today.

In our urgency to secure a Cold War ally, we made numerous errors in judgement. From the CIA-organized coup d'etat of a legitimate Iranian government, to the transfer of nuclear technology, to turning a blind eye towards the transgressions of the dictatorial Shah of Iran, to the delivery of over 70 shipments of biological weapons to Iraq to assist then in their war against Iran - these are just several of the larger decisions that have fostered such blinding hatred against us in Iran, and thus, fueling the rise and sustained dominance of the radical, insane, bloodthirsty clerics there.

It's a complex problem, which will demand an equally complex solution, but I honestly don't know how we can fix this.

Mosby

(16,385 posts)
3. Iran executed 81 people LAST WEEK
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:59 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Its horrible how they treat their prisoners.

Hopefully someday the use of the death penalty will end.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
4. Has there been any investigation of those who were tortured to death
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:19 PM
Nov 2012

in US Controlled detention centers?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagram_torture_and_prisoner_abuse

If this starts a trend of holding all torturers accountable, then it is a good thing. But if only some torturers are held accountable, or investigated, then the motives behind behind the sudden outrage in this case, are questionable.

We eg, are no longer in any position to be the moral arbiter of these matters. Not until the policy of 'moving forward' from war crimes remains in place.

Hopefully those pointing the finger, and rightfully so, at Iran for this criminal death, will now demand justice for all such crimes, no matter who is responsible.

And maybe, in reference to your comment, we can get rid of the death penalty here. Texas Gov Perry has signed the death warrants of hundreds of prisoners since he was elected. And we all George Bush's record.

 

unreadierLizard

(475 posts)
6. It seems like you enjoy deflecting
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:10 PM
Nov 2012

the crimes of dictator and theocratic nations just to pick on the United States.

"Iran tortures blogger to death in prison"

"If we're addressing torture let's address the US Imperialist Capitalist Kingdom Lies about torture"

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
7. Hmm
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:12 PM
Nov 2012

Well, I dunno... I think all torturers and the regimes that authorized them should be held accountable.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
16. Who is doing the deflection here? Is this about the horrors of torture
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:45 PM
Nov 2012

which we Democrats have been trying to get accountability for for over a decade now, or is this simply Political, using this one case as the War Machine used other cases to start yet another war with lots more torture?

One of the many, over one hundred that they were able to document, not to mention rape and sodomy of women and children, innocent people tortured to death in US custody.



Dilawar (born c. 1979 – December 10, 2002), also known as Dilawar of Yakubi, was an Afghan taxi driver who was tortured to death by US army soldiers at the Bagram Collection Point, a US military detention center in Afghanistan.

I'm not interested in WHERE torture occurs I am interested in the fact that it occurs ANYWHERE. I have been a member of anti-torture organizations for a decade now trying to get some justice for the victims of torture.

NO MORE WARS and do NOT use torture victims to start any more wars, that would be reprehensible and merely a cynical way of yet again ignoring the horrendous crimes that have yet to see any kind of accountability.

You have no right to accuse me of deflecting from torture. I have done the exact opposite I will continue to draw attention to it whenever the opportunity arises.

Why would YOU want to deflect from people being reminded of the fact that nothing has been done about torture worldwide and until WE do something about our country we have ZERO Moral Authority to point fingers elsewhere.

That is just one more tragedy about our own descent into that evil world. We cannot help anyone else and here you are objecting to anyone even mentioning it. Shhhhhh, let's move forward! Disgraceful!

apocalypsehow

(12,751 posts)
8. The subject of the OP is not "US Controlled detention centers," but what happened in Iran.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:15 PM
Nov 2012

I guess you misread the OP title, and ignored the content in the article itself. Give it another go - perhaps, like, actually read the OP this time - and then come back with an appropriate comment to the OP itself.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
17. Torture was what I saw as the subject of the OP. Torture is a horrific
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:02 PM
Nov 2012

crime. Do we limit outrage over horrific crimes only to places we have an interest in maybe starting a war with?

I hope people are not using a victim of torture in order to cause enough outrage that another horrific war can get started, which you can be sure will spread torture even further.

Maybe I'm getting deja vu all over again. I remember all the 'Saddam's Torture Chamber' outrage used to get support for that criminal war and apparently with no concern whatsoever for the victims of torture, in fact, we outdid Saddam considering we tortured women and children also.

So I guess I'm leery of these 'look what a horrible dictator this is don't you agree we need to go start a war there in order to stop the torture' routine.

Maybe if we had actually stopped torture, or murder or rape, or all the horrors Iraqis didn't face until we reigned terror down on them killing untold numbers of them, I wouldn't be so suspicious of these kinds of articles directed at a particular country.

It's not as if Torture is not a worldwide problem, one we lost our ability to condemn long ago. So why single out this one tragic situation unless the goal is to talk about TORTURE, rather that IRAN??

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
20. Torture bothers me, no matter where it occurs. Why on earth should I have
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:10 PM
Nov 2012

to start another thread when it was raised in this one?

You appear to be very upset. I am too, have been for more than a decade about how our Wars, which btw, were sold to the American just like this! Get them outraged over Saddam's Torture Chambers enough to get them to support a horrific, brutal war.

Is that what this is about? Clearly we do NOT care about torture since not one victim has been allowed to even a file a lawsuit in any of our Civil Courts. So why the sudden outrage? Could they possibly be reusing the old tactic they use to get the Iraq Wars going? And what is the US going to do about torture if they succeed in starting the next war on their list??

I don't understand your response, either you care about torture or you don't. And recent history shows us that 'Saddam's Torture Chambers' never closed down, we ran them even more efficiently and in doing so have lost the right to use victims of torture as a cynical ploy to get support to start any more wars.

And I will continue to speak out against torture, against the fact that the US refuses to prosecute its own torturers, that these kinds of articles remind me of how we got to Iraq, pretending to care about Torture only to make it worse for the Iraqi people.

Just ignore my posts, because when torture is the subject you will not like what I have to say about it, unless you agree that we have to keep demanding accountability for the brutal criminals who perpetrated this crime against so many people over the past decade.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
15. Saddened but not shocked. At least the interrogators were arrested.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:10 PM
Nov 2012

Which is more than what we do in the US.

More here
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/12/iran-prosecutor-confirms-blogger-death

PS - For those crying about posters "deflecting". Sometimes looking at other countries' abuses provides the perspective for needed introspection.

Judi Lynn

(160,649 posts)
21. One of the U.S.'s South American torturers, Dan Mitrione, was well known long ago:
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:02 PM
Nov 2012

33. URUGUAY 1964 to 1970

Torture -- as American as apple pie

"The precise pain, in the precise place, in the precise amount, for the desired effect."{1}
The words of an instructor in the art of torture. The words of Dan Mitrione, the head of the Office of Public Safety (OPS) mission in Montevideo.

~snip~
Dan Mitrione had built a soundproofed room in the cellar of his house in Montevideo. In this room he assembled selected Uruguayan police officers to observe a demonstration of torture techniques. Another observer was Manuel Hevia Cosculluela, a Cuban who was with the CIA and worked with Mitrione. Hevia later wrote that the course began with a description of the human anatomy and nervous system ...

Soon things turned unpleasant. As subjects for the first testing they took beggars, known in Uruguay as bichicomes, from the outskirts of Montevideo, as well as a woman apparently from the frontier area with Brazil. There was no interrogation, only a demonstration of the effects of different voltages on the different parts of the human body, as well as demonstrating the use of a drug which induces vomiting -- I don't know why or what for -- and another chemical substance. The four of them died.{16}

~snip~
"When you get what you want, and I always get it," Mitrione continued, "it may be good to prolong the session a little to apply another softening-up. Not to extract information now, but only as a political measure, to create a healthy fear of meddling in subversive activities."
The American pointed out that upon receiving a subject the first thing is to determine his physical state, his degree of resistance, by means of a medical examination. "A premature death means a failure by the technician ... It's important to know in advance if we can permit ourselves the luxury of the subject's death."{18}

More:
http://killinghope.org/bblum6/uruguay.htm

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Dan Mitrione[/center]
There's more to read on this U.S. employee, for anyone who does a simple search for his name. He applied himself with gusto, in South America, trying to stamp out people the hard way who protested the vicious right-wing US-backed fascists terrorizing them and their loved ones.

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