When will Reid learn.............

then it will not be the frog that gets stung. It will be the American people, even those idiots who re-elected McConnell.

McConnell had tried wheeling and dealing the last time when the Democrats wanted to change the filibuster rule. Reid accepted McConnell's promise that he would only use the filibuster sparingly - and promptly broke the promise a month later when he knew the Democrats needed a 2/3rd majority to change any senate rule.

Is Reid gullible enough to fall for the same lie twice?

the Harlem Globetrotters vs. the Washington Generals.

and sometimes approaches the level of pro wrestling.

up the turtle's ass. End the filibuster blockade by making them actually filibuster.

... McConnell lost his right to wave an olive branch when he vowed to make President Obama, "a one term president". Now he can worry about making sure President Obama is a two term president.

Man, I hope Judd throws her hat in the ring so we can get rid of this asshole.

more balanced Senate. I believe she can win.

that mcconnell gave his word on some kind of deal in the very beginning of this session, then immediately reneged. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him!

Now, will they once again fall for it?

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The Tortoise lied to Harry last time. The Tortoise is a liar and will continue to be a liar.

thanks

The rule to stall the majority by talking was what it was 100 years ago. Today the old men of the GOP can not talk and they just use the rule without following through with the intent. It is time to use the rule as was meant and not just STALL without form.

The GOP will always be the minority since the CONSERVATIVES are dieing off in herds. Long live those who want to go forward and get away from the PAST.

You do that, puddle of wax.

but I guess it makes more sense for a shellfish to be an admiral than a general.

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sadly, this is what prevented his political career.

Unilateral abuse of the rules by McConnell and co. is the problem.

What makes Mr. Turtleneck think Reid will buy into his lies a second time?

...say like gerrymandering or voter-suppression? That kind of misguided short term advantage? Or maybe saying no to everything...could it be like that? Wow! McConnell miraculously changed his views! To no avail, of course.

Ballad of the Dry Powder

When we fought King George, Colonel Harry Reid was sent to gaurd a mountain pass.
He had twenty men, the high ground, and a good view of all possible routes of attack,
but just one small keg of gunpowder for all their muskets blasts.

Each soldier would have powder to let just ten bullets fly.
General Washington gave thought to this when he bid them good-bye.
He said, "Take care boys, and keep your powder dry!"
He would soon regret those words for they led good men to die.

One night as Reid's boys were sitting around the campfire at their post up in the pass,
a grizzly bear got scent of them and into their camp crashed.
Johnny grabbed his musket and aimed at the bear's boulder of a head,
but before he squeezed the trigger, Col. Reid jumped up and said,
"Stand fast! Our bullets are for Redcoats, save our powder for them instead!"
Johnny held his fire and the bear tore out his throat.

As the bear began to eat him, the other soldiers grabbed their guns,
but Reid said, "Fight him if you must, but no bullets should let fly!
Washington has ordered we must keep our powder dry."

So they turned their muskets round and swatted with the butts,
they pulled their Bowie knives and they tried to slash his guts.
The bear just took the beating, but he would stand the cuts.
He turned on his attackers clawing flesh and chewing heads.
By the time that he was finished, half Reid's men were lying dead.

Reid thought it a victory for that keg was tight and dry.
Every bit of powder meant another Redcoat boy would die.

When the dead were buried, and the night lightened to day,
The watch saw Indians approaching with warpaint and sharpened blades.
Bob whispered to Reid, "They are fighting for the crown."
"That may be so," said Reid, "but when Redcoats come around,
we need every bit of powder to shoot each soldier down."

Bob was going to answer when a bullet hit his lung.
The Indians weren't as stingy with their own powder drum.
Harry took the powder and he began to run.
Half his men were killed again,
just five left from when he had begun.

"Now we can fight," he said.
"We have plenty for each gun."

As the day was fading and they lay up there in wait,
a half dozen Redcoats approached them, lined up perfect in their sights.

Tom pulled back his hammer and almost fired a shot,
but Harry grabbed his barrel and said this squad need not be fought.
"A bigger army's coming, and no powder can be lost."

"But if we all are dead, then who will fire the shot?"
Tom tried to wrest rifle, but in the struggle it went off.
The Redcoats were upon them, and then all five were caught.

While he tied their hands, the British sargeant asked why they hadn't fired a shot.
Harry Reid said nice and loudly, "I cannot tell a lie,
Gen. Washington himself told me to keep my powder dry."

"But if you shot the bear, your men would have lived to fight.
And if you shot the Indians, and put a bullet in my eye,
you could have stole our powder and have more to be kept dry."

The soldier took his bayonet, and Harry had to die.
Then he killed the others,but man he told to fly,
and take with him the powder keg
with Reid's head in it to keep the powder dry.

http://professorsmartass.blogspot.com/2007/05/poem-for-dem-surrender-ballad-of-dry.html

The pres. tried to cross the aisle and was blamed for not doing anything fr the first two years.

Fuck them - let 'em rot.

Take the advantage and run with it.

The Brithish were "gentlemen" and got shot standing in rows.
Don't be an ass - learn from history!
Once you've got all the enemy in irons - then let them express their ideas!

It's a trap!

Give em Hell, Harry!

How did that work out?

Make the lying sack of shit filibuster.

PUKES have had their say. It's time for DEMS to act like the majority they are and stand up for themselves and us.

and get rid of their secret fucking holds too. Make them do everything in the open.


Senate Dems didn't end the filibuster sooner because in gave the Blue Dogs Republican skirts to hide behind so they wouldn't have to vote for the progressive policies their constituents expected.

It's part of the Republican DNA.

They never compromised with us, we shouldn't compromise with them.

He caused Dems A LOT OF PROBLEMS by not doing it at the beginning of this session. This is his last four years anyway.

Not misguided ya old tortoise, guided by YOUR past of the last 2 years.

Fuck You, Tortuga Head!

If he even means it, he'll find a way out before Valentines Day.

The last time McConnell did a handshake deal with Reid it lasted about 24 hours so McConnell cannot be trusted. Any rule change must be put in writing and voted on. That can only be hard and fast with no exceptions.

shove the olive branch up his arse.
You can bet your ass that whatever mcConnell proposes won't be good for those of us who do give a fuck that our government works for the betterment for all of its citizens, that you can bet on.

"I close then as I began. I would be happy to work with leader McConnell about rules changes. I've made clear what we seek. I await his suggestions.... If the Republican leader has some ideas as to what he thinks should be done, I will come to his office, we could do it privately or publicly. I'm happy to work with him."

The paragraph above is the virtual definition of the tradition of cooperation and respect for the minority voice within the Senate, which was a useful and effective tradition that lasted for most of the history of the Senate until it ended in the Shrub years.

But now, it's just a snide "fuck you," because Senator Reid knows that McConnell doesn't have any ideas and no motivation beyond delay, greed and malice.

I think it's quite deliberate on Reid's part, too. He is waving the solution in front of McConnell's face, but McConnell is a shitty Senator who doesn't know his job, and he'll never see it.

Make no mistake that it is Reid's intention to restore that spirit of compromise and consideration in the Senate. Restoring the old filibuster rules will improve the voice of the minority by, heh heh, forcing them to speak at length about their positions.

Unfortunately for the GOP, that's a bad thing, because in addition to McConnell, most of them are shitty Senators who don't know their jobs. They don't want to talk about what they're doing, because they don't know what they're doing.

repeating it, you don't compromise with snakes when you got them cornered. The other side are snakes. Let them squirm all they want, but make the decisive decision. That way, they will respect and fear you, because they know that you will do what you say. The Democrats need to learn that. It will be better for your side in the long term. They will keep playing these games as long as they know that they can get away with it.

Make them talk about why they want to raise taxes on the rich and cut off health care for Seniors and children. Let them say why they are against taking away tax breaks to companies that offshore our jobs. Make them say why to think oil companies deserve more exemptions and tax breaks. No way Harry.

than to open it and remove all doubt. During the campaign, everyone found out what the Re-pugs are really about because they actually voiced their beliefs. Make them do it every day then broadcast it on YouTube, FB, twitter and every other social media outlet. That is what they fear. To actually have the public find out what pukes they really are. Harry-you stand your ground. You make those changes. We are behind you 100%. So don't give in. No compromise. Don't give in to the whining!

... whatever he wants to do without the Republicans saying that they were not consulted with on the issue

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1888678

if history is any guide.

btw-in what universe does the majority leader go to the minority leader's office? shouldn't that be the other way around?

and changing reforming the filibuster for good.

Have to depend on the Kentucky voters.

err....

isn't that what the freakin' GOP has been doing for years?

life would be better, long as a Bush wasn't president.

No. No. No. No. A thousand times, NO!

Yeah, compromise with these jerks? Impossible.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=318895