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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:12 PM Nov 2012

FRANCE TO RECOGNIZE PALESTINIAN STATE AT UN

Source: AP

PARIS (AP) -- France announced Tuesday that it plans to vote in favor of recognizing a Palestinian state at the U.N. General Assembly this week.

With the announcement, France becomes the first major European country to come out in favor, dealing a setback to Israel. The timing of the announcement appears aimed at swaying other European nations.

Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius told parliament that France has long supported Palestinian ambitions for statehood and "will respond `Yes'" when the issue comes up for a vote "out of a concern for coherency."

The Palestinians say the assembly is likely to vote Thursday on a resolution raising their status at the U.N. from an observer to a nonmember observer state, a move they believe is an important step toward a two-state solution with Israel. A Palestinian state would still not be a full General Assembly member, however.

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Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_FRANCE_UN_PALESTINIANS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-11-27-10-17-15

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FRANCE TO RECOGNIZE PALESTINIAN STATE AT UN (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2012 OP
Hooray! ann--- Nov 2012 #1
Didn't I read that Britain had also? libdem4life Nov 2012 #2
Yes, but ONLY if the Palestinians don't pursue Israel for war crimes. (LINK) Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #3
What Is The Difference USMCMustang Nov 2012 #12
I don't think I said there was one. nt Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #14
Thanks. libdem4life Nov 2012 #13
thank goodness the US won't dlwickham Nov 2012 #4
Thanks for doing what we should be doing, France... Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #5
Providing some sense of power to the marginalized Palestinians duhneece Nov 2012 #6
Agreed. Delphinus Nov 2012 #19
Spain took RedFury Nov 2012 #7
Even if opposed to Palestine, it's STUPID not to! TahitiNut Nov 2012 #8
So, will this start up Spirochete Nov 2012 #9
That is good news. I hope that the people of this region can finally have some peace. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #10
Good, it's about liberalhistorian Nov 2012 #11
K&R patrice Nov 2012 #15
GOOD! chuckstevens Nov 2012 #16
Umm... if you really think both of those things... harmonicon Nov 2012 #20
NO chuckstevens Nov 2012 #21
You can certainly see the parallel though. harmonicon Nov 2012 #22
Good on France! n/t xocet Nov 2012 #17
Totally agree with you on this one! nt Bigmack Nov 2012 #18
 

USMCMustang

(109 posts)
12. What Is The Difference
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:25 PM
Nov 2012

Between war crimes and Palestinian terrorism? I do hope that they get statehood. They should have claimed it 1948. The acts of terror would then be war crimes and acts of war. Britain will always hold a grudge. It is a shame that people can't be fair minded on this issue.

duhneece

(4,118 posts)
6. Providing some sense of power to the marginalized Palestinians
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:11 PM
Nov 2012

Good on France!

We have an obligation to provide help those who are abused, marginalized, have their land taken from them like the Palestinians have had done to them deserves steps to help stop that.

Delphinus

(11,842 posts)
19. Agreed.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 07:51 PM
Nov 2012

What is happening over there is simply wrong. Can't recall what a friend of mine called it the other day - an open air prison, I think.

RedFury

(85 posts)
7. Spain took
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:21 PM
Nov 2012

...the clue as well. Significant if only due to the current hard-right wing governing party, Partido Popular or PP, which in the past, with Aznar, was basically an American puppet.

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
8. Even if opposed to Palestine, it's STUPID not to!
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:46 PM
Nov 2012

Excommunication NEVER works. A people must be included in the community of nations to feel obliged to adhere to the rules and customs of that community. They have to feel they have something to lose. Right now, the Palestinians are losing lives and land DAILY and only find muscular support from the likes of Hamas. They're boxed in to a 'solution' that's being used as a scapegoat for the 'problem.'

The cruel irony that Israel, who constantly whines that their neighbors won't recognize their "right to exist" as a state, is the major roadblock in denying any recognition of a State of Palestine in the U.N. is a profoundly unethical hypocrisy.

 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
16. GOOD!
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 04:04 PM
Nov 2012

Now we need someone to admit that Gaza is the 21st Century Warsaw Ghetto. Create two states and be done with it.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
20. Umm... if you really think both of those things...
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:14 AM
Nov 2012

does that make you think turning the Warsaw ghetto into an independent country would have been a good solution to that situation?

 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
21. NO
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:24 PM
Nov 2012

No. What I mean is that the Warsaw Ghetto horrified the world. Why is the situation Gaza different and why is the world not outraged? Cutting off a people from the rest of the world and having them live with limited or no medical care and little food is just as immoral in 2012 as in was in 1941.

Giving the Palestinians there own state would, in time, lead to a better situation in the Middle East.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
22. You can certainly see the parallel though.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:31 PM
Nov 2012

Having a nominally independent state that's still effectively a ghetto wouldn't be a heck of a lot of help to anyone though.

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