Trump encourages all states to send their troops to Texas to help Greg Abbott
Source: raw story
Matthew Chapman January 25, 2024 4:39PM ET
In a two-part rant on Truth Social Thursday evening, former President Donald Trump called on Republican-controlled states to send National Guard troops to Texas to help Gov. Greg Abbott repel a supposed "invasion."
"When I was President, we had the most secure Border in History," wrote Trump. "Joe Biden has surrendered our Border, and is aiding and abetting a massive Invasion of millions of Illegal Migrants into the United States. Instead of fighting to protect our Country from this onslaught, Biden is, unbelievably, fighting to tie the hands of Governor Abbott and the State of Texas, so that the Invasion continues unchecked. In the face of this National Security, Public Safety, and Public Health Catastrophe, Texas has rightly invoked the Invasion Clause of the Constitution, and must be given full support to repel the Invasion.
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"We encourage all willing States to deploy their guards to Texas to prevent the entry of Illegals, and to remove them back across the Border," he continued. "All Americans should support the commonsense measures by Texas authorities to protect the Safety, Security, and Sovereignty of Texas, and of the American people. When I am President, on Day One, instead of fighting Texas, I will work hand in hand with Governor Abbott and other Border States to Stop the Invasion, Seal the Border, and Rapidly Begin the Largest Domestic Deportation Operation in History."
"Those Biden has let in should not get comfortable because they will be going home," he added in warning.
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Earlier this week, ......
Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-send-troops-abbott/
Lovie777
(12,392 posts)Think. Again.
(8,801 posts)I have an expectation that this will happen.
More blood on trumps tiny hands.
Drum
(9,213 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(24,759 posts)FalloutShelter
(11,897 posts)Clear as day.
Novara
(5,870 posts)DOJ needs to get on this, NOW.
Oh, who am I kidding? Merrick Garland won't do a thing.
hadEnuf
(2,223 posts)We should be dusting off some old law books.
The south may rise again, but it will also be put down again.
christx30
(6,241 posts)Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Novara
(5,870 posts)How about a superseding indictment to add these charges? This is insurrection, as clear as anything. Not just against the government, it's also against the Constitution and it's against the recent SCOTUS ruling. Add this charge and he's absolutely going to be convicted.
hadEnuf
(2,223 posts)I don't think it was meant to be difficult to understand.
The evidence of the crimes is even simpler.
mike_c
(36,281 posts)Isn't that pretty much the definition of inciting insurrection? Trump is not going away until he dies, and even then republicans will deify him for decades, even more than Reagan. He's going to be godlike for about a quarter of the U.S. population until someone worse comes along.
EndlessWire
(6,574 posts)I want someone to explain why this isn't a blatant incitement of another insurrection. Does Trump think that his status as "GOP frontrunner" will protect him from yet another indictment? Why are we letting him get away with this?
What did he do in the first one? He gave a speech encouraging people to come to the WH and fight. What's he doing here? He's giving a speech encouraging other states to come to Texas to fight. And, he doesn't mean fight with migrants. He is trying to create an army large enough to cause Biden a big headache.
He doesn't care if any of those American troops get killed or not, any more than he cared if any of the J6 people got hurt, just as long as he gets what HE wants. I think that this matter should be referred to the DOJ for possible indictment against Abbott, Paxton, Trump, and that other guy. Just start making a list.
Everything that Trump touches withers and dies. I wonder how all those guys will feel when they are standing in front of a judge accused of insurrection and obstruction. Is Trump worth it? Destroy your future for the likes of the Orange Turd?
snowybirdie
(5,251 posts)an invitation to start a. Civil war from the traitor and insurrectionist in chief? Lock him up!
Skittles
(153,294 posts)fucking COWARD
brush
(53,971 posts)He's acting as if he's still president.
Attilatheblond
(2,272 posts)Thinking there are some legal issues with his advocacy for insurrection again.
brush
(53,971 posts)Ultimately this is going to backfire on him and the maga republicans.
IMO a strong majority of voters don't agree with this, which is essentially a re-igniting of the Civil War. This will bite the repugs in November.
Captain Zero
(6,861 posts)Or Bannon and Miller.
brush
(53,971 posts)like when he recently mixed up Nancy Pelosi and Haley.
I was just talking a friend about is trump will again avoid debating, likes he's done against the other maga republicans. We're wondering how he's going to try to weasel out of debating Joe Biden?
I don't know how, but his handlers know he can't go on a debate stage as he can hardly keep his thoughts straight now.
Novara
(5,870 posts)And the Confederacy lost. No, you don't get to make up your own laws.
slightlv
(2,870 posts)He's even been overseas to "talk" and "negotiate" with foreign leaders, since we kicked him out of the WH. Isn't that fraudulently impersonating a president? Lord knows, he wants the honorific spoken each time someone addresses him. To him, it's more than just an archaic, polite way to refer to someone who once held the office. Like everything else, *rump abuses this tradition... and in so doing, makes it confusing as to who, in fact, IS running the country. What deals has he made behind our backs with what countries for "when" he "gets back into office?" I remember when this kind of thing was so frowned upon, we actually brought back legislators who walked too far over the federal line.
Between *rump doing things like this, and Abbott and De Santis ruling their states like mini-fiefdoms, separate from the U.S. (except for taking the federal money, of course), they're on a trajectory to force us into a true constitutional crisis. In fact, to my mind, Abbott already has put us there by ignoring federal law and the supreme court. We have to start reining in these mini-dictators and indicting them for insurrection... each and every one of them. Otherwise, I fear the states are going to break apart just by default. Never mind an official declaration of secession. We're letting them get away with way too much. The time to put a stop to it was a couple of years back, right after the WH insurrection. Now it's going to be so much harder, and probably cost way too much in heartache and manpower.
Doodley
(9,176 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(5,197 posts)The orange gibbon is asking STATE governors to send NATIONAL GUARD members down to another STATE to aid that STATE in interfering with NATIONAL Border Agents and troops who are doing what we are supposed to be doing for the NATIONAL immigration policies while they refuse to pass any legislation that will aid our NATIONAL efforts to gain better control over the border.
Gotcha, rethugs!
GenThePerservering
(1,865 posts)not just 'day one'. Does Dump think he's the Second Coming?
Mr.Bill
(24,365 posts)in the United States on day one.
hadEnuf
(2,223 posts)liberalgunwilltravel
(338 posts)Amass all the neo-Confederates in one place and dispatch all of them. Maybe we can convince them to have Cadet Bonespurs lead the assault.
NJCher
(35,823 posts)Will proudly lead the way in his golf cart.
Srkdqltr
(6,376 posts)WV might give you a run on that. Justice is jonesing so hard to be senator that hes likely to use his power as governor to send troops. Aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh
FloridaBlues
(4,013 posts)jmowreader
(50,588 posts)The ONLY way a National Guard unit can legally cross a state line is if it's been federalized by the President of the United States.
Upon federalization the affected unit loses its authority to conduct law enforcement operations.
And last I checked former presidents don't get to order anything except all those damned Quarter Pounders he eats.
BlueGrimmy
(7 posts)National Guard units routinely travel between states for training purposes, and states have all sorts of agreements with one another allowing for assistance with emergencies without Federalization of the troops. While active duty and reserve units are restricted, the National Guard works for their state governor as the state militia, and one state governor can absolutely authorize other state troops to enter in the state and do whatever.
Here's a press release from TX from last August: http://tinyurl.com/bdn4ndmm
Several states sent guard units and police to assist Texas with stopping immigrants in the exact same place, and they weren't federalized. It was (of course) called "Operation Lone Star".
sheshe2
(84,049 posts)This is after a SCOTUS ruling saying the NG can't block federal agents.
The high courts order effectively maintains long-running precedent that the federal government not individual states has authority to enforce border security.
The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday ordered Texas to allow federal border agents access to the states border with Mexico, where Texas officials have deployed miles of concertina wire.
The order did not explain justices decisions. For now, it effectively upholds longstanding court rulings that the Constitution gives the federal government sole responsibility for border security.
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/01/22/texas-border-supreme-court-immigration/
BlueGrimmy
(7 posts)especially when the courts have clear and recent orders saying not to. I was just clarifying the earlier post wasn't correct regarding Guard units operating in other states. Details matter, especially if we're talking legal issues.
sheshe2
(84,049 posts)Sadly that is why all these red states are sending them there to defy the SCOTUS ruling. Greg thinks it is okay.
I got what you were saying, but what they are doing is wrong.
GP6971
(31,263 posts)Bottom line is who is funding the out of state units? Every major command, be it Active, Reserve or Guard, has a spending budget which flows down to individual units. As to the NG,, If a state did not previously budget for out of state support it would be up to the host state to fund them. At least in a sane, non-republican world. So if TX is not funding the out of state units, then it's up to the supporting states to fund their troops.
More cost to the state taxpayers with zero benefits. Pretty screwed up.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,839 posts)babylonsister
(171,109 posts)He can't have it both ways, the moron.
IcyPeas
(21,939 posts)and all his minions listen to him and say "Yes Sir"
limbicnuminousity
(1,407 posts)Last edited Fri Jan 26, 2024, 12:29 AM - Edit history (1)
Governor DeSantis of Florida sent over 800 guard units, 200 of his most corrupt cops and equipment including 2 mobile command units, 17 drones and 10 vessels to support the TNG.
Governor Tate Reeves of Mississippi sent the Mississippi National Guards 112th Military Police Battalion to support the TNG.
Governor Kay Ivey of Alabama sent 275 guard "troops" to Texas.
Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders of Arkansas maintains ~50 units in Texas.
Governor Kevin Stitt of Oklahoma deployed 1,305 Oklahoma guardsmen and 231 fascists cops to Texas as of June 1, 2023.
Governor Henry McMaster of South Carolina deployed an indeterminate number of guard troops tp Texas in 2023.
Governor Bill Lee of Tennessee deployed over 100 guard troops in Texas as of 2023.
Governor Jim Justice of West Virginia allowed a temporary 20 day deployment of guard troops to Texas in 2023.
more on this for anyone interested- https://blackbirdsatdusk.wordpress.com/2024/01/25/the-southern-problem/
Katcat
(237 posts)That asshole Justice will do anything to be senator
area51
(11,940 posts)limbicnuminousity
(1,407 posts)Thank you for pointing it out!
Ferrets are Cool
(21,116 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,476 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,035 posts)Treason ought to lead to consequences fit for traitors. Or the insurrection will keep recurring.
bluestarone
(17,105 posts)LudwigPastorius
(9,254 posts)Kennah
(14,352 posts)into handcuffs
Kennah
(14,352 posts)into a straight jacket
LiberalFighter
(51,299 posts)dflprincess
(28,094 posts)and does not appear to be in any hurry to get home & take control of the situation.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)Put his ass in jail for treason against the Constitution.
dlk
(11,600 posts)Hes infected with delusion of grandeur.
DemocraticPatriot
(4,500 posts)against the Government of the United States,
and WITHOUT the "plausible deniability" of 'free speech' rhetoric!
(Not to mention so cavalierly tossing aside the legal decision
of his hand-picked 'Supreme Court' ! )
It is well PAST time for one of the judges to REVOKE his bail for contempt,
and throw that stinky orange traitorous son of a bitch into a CELL---
WITHOUT his 'cell phone'....
DemocraticPatriot
(4,500 posts)I would dearly like to see someone who COULD....
limbicnuminousity
(1,407 posts)According to Newsweek Abbott has declared himself a wartime leader with powers that supercede the presidents.
The Biden administration's failure to "fulfill the duties imposed by" Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution "has triggered Article I, § 10, Clause 3, "which reserves to this State the right of self-defense," Abbott said.
"For these reasons, I have already declared an invasion under Article I, § 10, Clause 3 to invoke Texas's constitutional authority to defend and protect itself. That authority is the supreme law of the land and supersedes any federal statutes to the contrary," he said.
SWBTATTReg
(22,201 posts)tRUMP calling on repug state governors be insurrectionists too (and tRUMP too of course).
The Supreme Court, which is considering this very issue, should add this tRUMP-related insurrectionist call out to the state governors for further proof of tRUMP's insurrectionist tendencies. There should be no doubt in anyone's mind about what tRUMP wants.
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quakerboy
(13,923 posts)But If one state sends troops to another, wouldnt that make it a federal issue, and thus throw control of those troops to the Commander in Chief?
Polybius
(15,520 posts)Big if.
John Shaft
(286 posts)this is what happens.
DemMedic
(168 posts)For interfering with government function, or something.
Novara
(5,870 posts)Calling on states to fight the Federal government is clearly insurrection and it's clearly why Section 3 of the 14th Amendment was written.
The Confederacy is dead. You assholes lost that war, remember? And your fucking state constitution does not supersede the US Constitution.
oldmanlynn
(114 posts)The Texas governor is already claiming they are under attack so if additional state militaries are there and the federal government comes in this could be whats sparks a larger event. Not sure if Biden needs this to happen now.
Trump knows that he is setting this up as an us against them super charged environment.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,116 posts)Zincwarrior
(66 posts)In the real world, none of this is even news in Texas. Everyone take a breath.