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oldsoftie

(12,612 posts)
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 10:23 AM Feb 2024

7 arrested in attack on NYPD officers near migrant shelter in Times Square

Source: CBS News

NEW YORK -- Two more suspects are under arrest Thursday for allegedly attacking two NYPD officers outside a migrant center in Times Square.

So far, police have arrested seven of the 12 suspects accused in the attack on Jan. 27, but NYPD officials have blasted the Manhattan District Attorney's Office after some were set free on bail. Surveillance video showed a group of men assaulting officers in front of a migrant center on West 42nd Street, police said.

The video appeared to show two officers in a struggle with a man wearing yellow, followed by a barrage of people taking turns punching and kicking a lieutenant and another officer.

"You want to know why our cops are getting assaulted? There's no consequences and we must change this," said NYPD Chief of Patrol John Chell.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/nypd-officers-attacked-times-square-migrant-shelter-arrests/



Released with NO BAIL? A gift to the MAGAts & I'd bet they're already working on ads
The mayor, if legally possible, needs to do something about shit like this.
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7 arrested in attack on NYPD officers near migrant shelter in Times Square (Original Post) oldsoftie Feb 2024 OP
Set free on bail. WTF?? And yes, the mayor should do something, but I have no faith THIS mayor would. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #1
Released with no bail MichMan Feb 2024 #14
All were charged with assault and released without bail during their arraignments Bludogdem Feb 2024 #2
I saw that a few already took up NYC offer for a free ticket to California MichMan Feb 2024 #23
yep. but they still have to return to NY for court. BlueWaveNeverEnd Feb 2024 #48
What if they don't? MichMan Feb 2024 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Feb 2024 #3
You Don't Want to See The Bodycam Footage Before Coming to Such Conclusion? ruet Feb 2024 #4
We're supposed to ignore a story because the Right might like it? oldsoftie Feb 2024 #7
Gosh, Is That What I Said? ruet Feb 2024 #10
Certainly. They attacked cops on the ground; kicking them repeatedly oldsoftie Feb 2024 #12
Looks like several of the offenders were housed at a migrant shelter. limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #9
Where's that info? rockfordfile Feb 2024 #20
Think I'm going to wait on the details on this one. limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #21
... lapucelle Feb 2024 #27
We don't put people in jail just because we could anymore. pwb Feb 2024 #26
One suspect has two prior arrests for assault MichMan Feb 2024 #32
You know assault can be just a rub or pulling away pwb Feb 2024 #33
You are right; obviously he is the real victim MichMan Feb 2024 #34
Come on man, I didn't say that. pwb Feb 2024 #35
Conspiracy theories are apparently very comforting.... brooklynite Feb 2024 #37
Indeed... ruet Feb 9 #50
Doesn't change the fact that someone with two recent prior incidents of assault also assaulted police officers. MichMan Feb 10 #53
You Mean... ruet Feb 10 #54
"defended themselves against police misconduct and unlawful arrest, right?" MichMan Feb 10 #55
Should "dignity" trump public safety though? AkFemDem Feb 9 #52
NYPD is an organization with an exemplary track record in regards to minorities... EarthFirst Feb 2024 #5
Do you believe that the cops deserved being assaulted by an angry mob? MichMan Feb 2024 #13
Well, apparently we have to wait till we have ALLLLL the facts oldsoftie Feb 2024 #19
One of the suspects, Yorman Reveron... lapucelle Feb 2024 #29
THREE assaults in 3 mo? Looks real remorseful, doesnt he? I see an early end for this POS oldsoftie Feb 2024 #30
Apparently the legal system isn't going to hold him accountable MichMan Feb 2024 #31
I'm hopeful that this incident, with these facts, may be the agent for change. oldsoftie Feb 2024 #36
I believe that Gov. Hochul can remove Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg MichMan Feb 2024 #39
I hope you're right. From her statements on this, maybe that will happen. oldsoftie Feb 2024 #40
Deport Him Deep State Witch Feb 9 #51
NYPD is a majority-minority police force. Whites make up only 33% brooklynite Feb 2024 #38
I'm surprised this isnt a better known fact. Maybe its willful. oldsoftie Feb 2024 #41
Maybe because 33% is not true SocialDemocrat61 Feb 2024 #47
Motivation? limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #6
So in THIS case prior acts ARE admissible, huh? oldsoftie Feb 2024 #42
Prior acts limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #43
It's not the Mayor's fault about them being released, it's the Manhattan DA's fault Polybius Feb 2024 #8
Post removed Post removed Feb 2024 #17
I never said he wasn't Polybius Feb 2024 #22
Fuck that shit MAGA preaches every week about "arrestees are hostages!" and the rest of that fuck ass shit they talk SoFlaBro Feb 2024 #11
So we ahould ignore this assault on law enforcement because you are mad at republicans? ripcord Feb 2024 #15
That's messed up rockfordfile Feb 2024 #16
I remember admiring Frank Serpico. nt limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #18
being reported that 4 of them already fled by bus to Calif EX500rider Feb 2024 #24
If only they knew how to figure out where a BUS is. nt oldsoftie Feb 2024 #25
Depending on where they go Mz Pip Feb 2024 #45
there's no consequences to assaulting a cop? Skittles Feb 2024 #28
Obviously since this attack at the very least. They were released. No bail. oldsoftie Feb 2024 #46
Isn't released on their own recognizance the same as paid leave while investigation is pending? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2024 #44
 

Bludogdem

(93 posts)
2. All were charged with assault and released without bail during their arraignments
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 11:46 AM
Feb 2024

Good luck getting them getting to show up for a trial

Response to oldsoftie (Original post)

ruet

(10,039 posts)
4. You Don't Want to See The Bodycam Footage Before Coming to Such Conclusion?
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 01:06 PM
Feb 2024

There's a reason they were released without bail. What was the person who was being arrested being arrested for? Was a crime committed? Why did the officers escalate and go "hands-on"? Looks like a public sidewalk to me. Law enforcement doesn't have any authority to move people along from a public space unless a crime is being committed. The common refrain when an officer or officers appear to engage in dubious activity is "I'll withhold judgment until all the facts are available". Shouldn't that apply here?

This story is a Conservative gold mine and it's sad to see DU'ers just, sheepishly, going along with it.

oldsoftie

(12,612 posts)
7. We're supposed to ignore a story because the Right might like it?
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 01:31 PM
Feb 2024

Thats ridiculous. Its news & its important.
Video shows the cops being attacked while on the ground. Thats not acceptable. The Mayor says its not acceptable. The Governor says its not acceptable. They're hardly right wingers.
The suspect wasnt being assaulted, he was resisting.

ruet

(10,039 posts)
10. Gosh, Is That What I Said?
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 01:49 PM
Feb 2024

I was responding to, " Ridiculous they were released without bail. They shouldn’t be released at all." Do you agree with that sentiment?

oldsoftie

(12,612 posts)
12. Certainly. They attacked cops on the ground; kicking them repeatedly
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 02:17 PM
Feb 2024

They're an obvious threat to society & there should be no bail for those types.
And I'd bet 99% of those in Times Square would agree

limbicnuminousity

(1,405 posts)
9. Looks like several of the offenders were housed at a migrant shelter.
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 01:38 PM
Feb 2024

The NYPD says those arrested were:

A 19-year-old from Mississippi
A 19-year-old from a migrant shelter in the 81st Precinct in Brooklyn
A 21-year-old from a migrant shelter in Queens
A 24-year-old from a migrant shelter on Jefferson Street in Brooklyn
A 22-year-old

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/nypd-officers-attacked-times-square-migrant-shelter-arrests/

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
20. Where's that info?
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 09:19 PM
Feb 2024

Look at those ages? Mississippi ?

At least two of the suspects were free on the street after prior shoplifting arrests, police said.

pwb

(11,292 posts)
26. We don't put people in jail just because we could anymore.
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 09:15 PM
Feb 2024

It is a dignity thing. They are charged and have to face judgement, if they don't face judgement and run then they are fugitives and will be put in jail or deported.

MichMan

(11,977 posts)
32. One suspect has two prior arrests for assault
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 10:46 PM
Feb 2024

Check out Post #29. One in November, one in December and now one in January. At that rate, maybe the DA might do something by summer after he gets 4 more.

Looks real dignified in the picture in Post #29

pwb

(11,292 posts)
33. You know assault can be just a rub or pulling away
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 11:57 PM
Feb 2024

from a police officers grasp? It is not always harmful. Cops use it all the time.

MichMan

(11,977 posts)
34. You are right; obviously he is the real victim
Sat Feb 3, 2024, 03:04 AM
Feb 2024
Reveron has two prior arrests. In November, he allegedly assaulted a Nordstrom Rack employee attempting to stop him from shoplifting. And last month, he is accused of punching a Macy's employee trying to stop him and two others during a robbery at the Herald Square location.


I bet he was minding his own business and the store employees rubbed him somehow. He should sue them for malicious prosecution.



https://abc7ny.com/nyc-crime-officers-attacked-time-square-nypd/14373708/

pwb

(11,292 posts)
35. Come on man, I didn't say that.
Sat Feb 3, 2024, 08:30 AM
Feb 2024

Our police and courts in New York have been dealing with immigrants for a long time. Statue of Liberty and all? Like others on this post I will wait for the facts. That guy in the picture could be an another puke staged event.

MichMan

(11,977 posts)
53. Doesn't change the fact that someone with two recent prior incidents of assault also assaulted police officers.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 10:26 AM
Feb 10

Unless you believe the officers and the other victims deserved it

ruet

(10,039 posts)
54. You Mean...
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 01:15 PM
Feb 10

defended themselves against police misconduct and unlawful arrest, right? I also love the, very liberal, "HE HAD PRIORS" defense. Hmmm... Do you think the NYPD knew about those priors before they decided to abuse their authority? See also, poisoning the well.

MichMan

(11,977 posts)
55. "defended themselves against police misconduct and unlawful arrest, right?"
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 02:49 PM
Feb 10

They were just defending themselves by kicking a cop down on the ground in the face?

Surprised that someone would defend cops getting attacked like that.



AkFemDem

(1,836 posts)
52. Should "dignity" trump public safety though?
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 01:03 PM
Feb 9

When the charge is a violent crime, particularly if the accused has a prior history of violent crime arrests, is currently out on bail, or is "undocumented" (meaning a full criminal history can't be verified) then I support continued detention. In the case of some of these offenders, there is not only a checkered history of violent crime- there's a *recent* history of it.

We've all seen those stories that come up about someone killing someone else, and then it's reveled they were arrested 12 times in the past year and we get angry then and ask, "why were they on the streets?" I'm not sure how to reconcile that POV with no-bond bail to those arrested repeatably for assault.



EarthFirst

(2,905 posts)
5. NYPD is an organization with an exemplary track record in regards to minorities...
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 01:27 PM
Feb 2024

I’m certain that every effort was made to ensure that the rights of this immigrant were protected; and that no profiling or pejoratives were uttered during this altercation.

Sounds like a cop had a FAFO moment…

MichMan

(11,977 posts)
13. Do you believe that the cops deserved being assaulted by an angry mob?
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 07:03 PM
Feb 2024

Including a drop kick to the face?

lapucelle

(18,346 posts)
29. One of the suspects, Yorman Reveron...
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 09:56 PM
Feb 2024
Reveron has two prior arrests. In November, he allegedly assaulted a Nordstrom Rack employee attempting to stop him from shoplifting. And last month, he is accused of punching a Macy's employee trying to stop him and two others during a robbery at the Herald Square location.

https://abc7ny.com/nyc-crime-officers-attacked-time-square-nypd/14373708/

===================================

An arrest for assault in November, an arrest for assault in December, and now this arrest for assault in January.

Here's a picture of Reveron leaving court after this arrest.



oldsoftie

(12,612 posts)
30. THREE assaults in 3 mo? Looks real remorseful, doesnt he? I see an early end for this POS
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 10:21 PM
Feb 2024

At some point he's going to assault the wrong person.

MichMan

(11,977 posts)
31. Apparently the legal system isn't going to hold him accountable
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 10:38 PM
Feb 2024

How many more people he is going to victimize?

Wonder if he has an asylum claim pending?

oldsoftie

(12,612 posts)
36. I'm hopeful that this incident, with these facts, may be the agent for change.
Sat Feb 3, 2024, 09:16 AM
Feb 2024

Whoever is in charge of these decisions in NYC simply HAS to go. But is there any way to do it other than waiting till the next election?

oldsoftie

(12,612 posts)
40. I hope you're right. From her statements on this, maybe that will happen.
Sat Feb 3, 2024, 11:15 AM
Feb 2024

People I know in NYC are way past sick of this stuff. I never went to NYC back when it was the "bad old days"; only after things got cleaned up. I dont want to see it fall backwards.

Deep State Witch

(10,458 posts)
51. Deport Him
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 12:32 PM
Feb 9

3 assaults in 6 months? Yeah. I don't care if he's an asylum seeker or what. He needs to be on the first plane back to Guatemala or wherever he's from.

brooklynite

(94,740 posts)
38. NYPD is a majority-minority police force. Whites make up only 33%
Sat Feb 3, 2024, 10:14 AM
Feb 2024

Cliches aren't nearly as much fun today.

SocialDemocrat61

(640 posts)
47. Maybe because 33% is not true
Sat Feb 3, 2024, 05:21 PM
Feb 2024

According to Wikipedia:

Of the entire 33,536-member police force in 2023:
47% are white and 53% are members of minority groups.

Of 21,603 officers on patrol:
43% are non-Hispanic white
57% are black, Latino (of any race), or Asian or Asian-American.

Of 5,164 detectives:
52% are non-Hispanic white
48% are black, Latino (of any race), or Asian or Asian-American.

Of 4,376 sergeants:
52% are non-Hispanic white
48% are black, Latino (of any race), or Asian or Asian-American.

Of 1,635 lieutenants:
59% are non-Hispanic white
41% are black, Latino (of any race), or Asian or Asian-American.

Of 360 captains:
62% are non-Hispanic white
38% are black, Latino (of any race), or Asian or Asian-American.

Of 101 police chiefs:
57% are non-Hispanic white and
43% are non-white.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Police_Department#Department_composition

limbicnuminousity

(1,405 posts)
6. Motivation?
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 01:30 PM
Feb 2024

I'd like to know why it happened. Also, were the officers in question involved in any unbecoming activity prior to the assault?

oldsoftie

(12,612 posts)
42. So in THIS case prior acts ARE admissible, huh?
Sat Feb 3, 2024, 11:19 AM
Feb 2024

Because thats generally not acceptable. As has been mentioned here over the years numerous times.

limbicnuminousity

(1,405 posts)
43. Prior acts
Sat Feb 3, 2024, 11:44 AM
Feb 2024

include the random and spurious murder of citizens on a daily basis by fascists in law enforcement. No, I don't take their word and I don't trust the thin blue line.

Get the neo-nazis out of law enforcement.

Polybius

(15,489 posts)
8. It's not the Mayor's fault about them being released, it's the Manhattan DA's fault
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 01:32 PM
Feb 2024

He's not a "lock 'em up" type of guy, and has been really bad on prosecuting these types of crimes.

Response to Polybius (Reply #8)

SoFlaBro

(1,951 posts)
11. Fuck that shit MAGA preaches every week about "arrestees are hostages!" and the rest of that fuck ass shit they talk
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 02:05 PM
Feb 2024

ripcord

(5,537 posts)
15. So we ahould ignore this assault on law enforcement because you are mad at republicans?
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 07:19 PM
Feb 2024

That's just sad.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
16. That's messed up
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 08:32 PM
Feb 2024

"You want to know why our cops are getting assaulted? There's no consequences and we must change this," said NYPD Chief of Patrol John Chell.

EX500rider

(10,869 posts)
24. being reported that 4 of them already fled by bus to Calif
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 03:50 PM
Feb 2024
Citing law enforcement sources, the New York Post reports that four of the accused have fled on a bus bound for California.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68185611

Mz Pip

(27,453 posts)
45. Depending on where they go
Sat Feb 3, 2024, 01:32 PM
Feb 2024

They’ll get the same treatment here. Our Alameda County DA doesn’t want to “over criminalize.”

There’s a big push to recall her.

oldsoftie

(12,612 posts)
46. Obviously since this attack at the very least. They were released. No bail.
Sat Feb 3, 2024, 03:23 PM
Feb 2024

Where's the consequences?

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