Secondly, I didn’t know there were that many idiots.
Okay… I did.

Trump is a poor man’s idea of what a rich man looks like.

What billionaire accepts charity? In almost every scripture and philosophy warns against giving charity to the rich.

Even if he’s Smelvis.

Imagine my surprise to learn he was here in Philly today at "Sneaker Con" hawking his latest - https://apnews.com/article/trump-sneakers-sneaker-con-philadelphia-4de093eda6f8d1c68baf8fe8095f777b

If this sick F*** were not such a malignant force, O would find this sad.

During hunting season no less. The reflection off of them will scare off the deer.

To disinfect the city after he leaves? Everything about him is gross.

the SAME PA Convention Center that the GOP sent goons here to attack during the 2020 Presidential election ballot counting.

Can so many really be THAT stupid?

Are selling for $400.00! His other ones sell for $100.00! These must be real gold!

https://www.etsy.com/market/trump_sneakers

Useful and decorative!

https://www.etsy.com/search?q=trump%20toilet%20paper&ref=search_bar

Credit to ProfessorGAC pointing that out in another thread.

It violates the spirit of the rule, in my opinion, but there's probably enough wiggle room there that I could see the fundraiser arguing that it's not technically a violation.

I'm a little surprised they haven't already. If nothing else, there are political fundraising violation implications that they probably don't want to mess with.

I would think that would be enough to shut it down but I guess not ....as of yet.

I work for the Government so I can't benefit from a GoFundMe, since I can't say where the money comes from, so it could be a conflict of interest with my official duties...but this sexual abuser and grifter who used to get a paycheck from the Government (and wants to again), can do whatever the hell he wants and get away with it.

I will personally be very disappointed and think they would ruin a great service to real people who need real help.

I personally would never donate through them again.

OTHER SERVICES WILL POP UP TO FILL THE VOID.

They've shit the bed in my opinion.

find find and exploit any wiggle room! I do hope either gofundme disallows this as against the spirit of its TOS, or else, like everything else, rump takes down gofundme. I know it's done a lot of good for a lot of people, but like everything else, it can be turned to bad... as in this case.

violate that portion you posted.

That's what I said in a thread yesterday that TZ referenced.
The policy is "squishy" enough that it can probably be justified, at least with some tortured logic.
That said, there's another condition that prohibits fundraising for illegal activities and the fine is the result of activities found to be unlawful, at least under civil law.
Like TZ, I expect they'll take it down, eventually.

Which would suggest that a GoFundMe account created to cover the judgement against Trump may not violate the TOS.

Use this. Be generous.

Cardone is a snake oil salesman and Scientologist.

it as income for tax purposes

A local breakfast joint seeking to relocate into our neighborhood of a few hundred residents raised their goal of $15K in 8 hours. Plus an extra $3K by EOD.

Brekky rulez!

or Mike Lindell pillows, or guns...

...sucking up all the loose change virtually guarantees we will win tons of elected posts as the R's running will get zero financial support. We win, they lose and they already know it! Lemmings jumping into the sea.

How many of them are stupid beyond belief? Let me count the ways..........................................

That's per day... lol

According to a recently filed lawsuit, Cardone Capital and Grant Cardone targeted “everyday investors,” through social media. These solicitations were allegedly misleading to many investors. For example, the lawsuit complaint states that Grant Cardone assured investors through these solicitations that their investments would pay high monthly distributions and would return to investors at least two to three times their investment. He gave specific examples, as stated in the lawsuit complaint:

Investing $100,000 would pay $500 in distributions monthly
Investing $200,000 in the fund would result in a $660,000 “position” in the fund
Investing $200,000 would allow investors to early $12,000-$15,000 in distributions a year
The property investors invest in would triple in value in 5 to 7 years
However, according to the lawsuit, the actual distributions have been much less than these stated amounts. Further, the complaint states that Cardone had no reasonable basis for estimating investors’ distributions or the value of the property to be so high. As a result, these statements have been deemed false and misleading.

https://www.classlawgroup.com/securities-fraud/cardone-equity-fund-class-action-lawsuit

Some of the comments are simultaneously contemptible and pathetic.

... they'll have paid off the entire total in only 15 years, after accounting for the 9% interest.

(Actually, that's at 145k per day. At 85K per day, he's not even covering the yearly interest.)

There's one called "Defamation Lawsuit." The description reads: "Donate today for president Donald Trump from the crazy Democrats and their their sex crazed puppets." LOL That has just only over $1,000 raised. "Restore Democracy and Make America Great Again" has raised $20.

There's also a twin "Stand With Trump" that has raised only $200.

These people are dumber than dumb.

At this rate he'll need 5,000 days - more than 13 years - to raise the entire amount.
(Rough numbers here, but still it proves that he'll never raise it by GFM.)

I had a rough guesstimate of over 10 years.

working 24 hours a day for $15.00 per hour, he would have had to start in 600 and something - BCE

Hey look, it's a convicted fraud and rapist; lets throw money at him!

At this rate how long is it going to take him to raise enough money to raise $355 million???

...at $160k in a day & the total bond requirement of $540 million, 3,375 days, or 9 years/3 months.

Well, they have high aspirations.

But many people are sending thousands of dollars.

take the cake, but they'd just find a way to monetize it and give it to trump! Honestly... how many of these $25 donation people have trouble making it through the checkout line at the grocery store and scream bloody murder about it? But they're more than willing to give their grocery money to a billionaire?

God... the stupid... it burns!!!!!

Trump is both a multibillionaire and needs donations to pay his bills.

God people are dumb lol

"I'm a successful billionaire. Please send me a donation." Donald Trump

they’ll have raised the money for his fine in 11 and a half years.

At which point, he will have already have been the only U.S. president to have died in federal prison.

Not gonna get there.

…is 0.0004507% of the goal -

...to GoFund me unlike campaign contributions. Also, is there any need to disclose who made such payments?

a violation of GoFundMe TOS?

Presumably, it will take awhile for the wheels of justice to turn.

-- Mal

making it more difficult for every other repuke campaign to get any donations. Seems like a plan they should stick with.😂😂😂

They're investing in their souls to the God-Emperor.
Time off in Purgatory.

Make America Grift Again

and the guy is apparently a sex offender, eric vevang, according to several posts here on DU yesterday.

I don't know the details but that means his victim was underage. Typical of the GOP Grand Old Predators

it was used for a 2 time impeached , rap sheet thousands of miles long jerk instead.always opm other peoples money not theirs ,

to vent their true feelings re The Donald.

Go on, tell us another.

to liquidate those 2.5 billion in assets he supposedly ( ) has.

his supporters are definitely high on something...

Wouldn’t have to work at convincing them, they are thoroughly convinced already and beyond any light of reason. I suppose trump already has all their names.

Does he have pay taxes on that as well?

That or a world wide telethon until we can throw the Putinists out of our Congress?

I've seen that some of the marine drones/jet ski-type things that took down two Russian ships were bought with donated funds. I'm not sure if it's true, though.

Who's to say this isn't a total scam? I mean, people know how stupid his cult members are. Anybody can set up a godundme and cash in.

....about how much of a REALLY bad idea it is to get mixed up financially with donald trump.

...but 1$ is too much.

That's for ONE DAY of interest (9%) on the $355M Judgement

He gets one of these EVERY day until the Judgement is paid in full.

30-day deadline to pay the fine was imposed by Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron.

send a check for $1.00. It will cost more than $1.00 to process the check and then postage to send a thank you.

The very people who are so opposed to billionaires paying their own fair share of taxes are the ones making sizeable contributions to a purported billionaire to cover his bills?

Yeah. It's a cult.

every 24 hours it will only take him 4,226 days to hit the mark (more or less)- about 11 years or so..............

Came from "Trumpisarapist" or something like that.

How can these idiots, many of who don’t have the money, just hand it over to a man to pay his legal fees for FRAUD!

My head hurts now!

There needs to be laws in the books where outside help on all monetary rulings, whether criminal fines or litigation rulings, are completely and totally forbidden. Trump made his mess, he needs to clean it up by himself, without any help at all.

They’ll give their all, and they’ll have nothing to show for it. And somehow they’ll feel vindicated, I guess.

Just put coins in water. The magnet picked them up just fine.

And Fox News blamed Micheal Steele for the Steele Dossier.

Maybe we should all donate a penny to waste their time and money.

That is such a low percentage of the total, it has to be expressed exponentially. 2.366 e-4, roughly.

-- Mal

is raising funds on their site. His company is barred from doing business in New York, and his family charity and Trump University were all shut down as frauds.

We'll see if I get a response, as a media member.

With the Eugene Carol lawsuit from the court and the NY 350 million dollar lawsuit can't that money be seized as assets ?

I tell you, pretty soon, they're not going to have the scratch for crystal meth and Colt .45 beer.

And I'll bet Trumpo doesn't see one penny of it.

so far still scheduled for May - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/steve-bannons-we-build-the-wall-scheme-trial-set-for-may-2024

(as a side note - when I went to search on "Bannon trial" it came up with "Do you mean Baboon trial". )

Not including interest.

They probably (most of them) aren't real. They're just grifters taking easy money from the rubes.

Even if they ARE real, Chump will most likely croak before the full amount is raised, so what's the point? It's coming out of his estate and the kiddies will inherit zilch.

The only thing better than the MAGAts depriving real candidates of funds by giving to Trump would be if the MAGAts depriving real candidates AND Trump of funds by giving to a grifter.

As for the amount, it doesn't have to meet the goal before the money is available. Money can be transferred out of GFM at any time, so they wouldn't have to wait until goal is met to send money to Trump.

The part I find interesting is that it never really says the money would go to Trump. He's mentioned, of course, but there's a lot of weasel words about "taking a stand", and it's referred to as a "legal fund".

At this rate it will take about 12 years to pay this off and that is not including interest and other penalties..
Hopefully he wont last another six months..

the gold peels off, revealing black and white stripes!

Ms. Carroll and the state of NY thank you, suckers!

I pocket it. I might have to creat some phoney expenses. Most likely that is exactly what is happening for the one who started the fund. A true trump acolyte

Among the 6000+ donors:

Vladdy YourDaddy
PT Barnum

A whole bunch of "anonymous", and I can't blame them. I wouldn't want my name associated with that asshole either. In fact if I were going to donate $5 I would do it under my Irish name, Pat McGroyne, or my Arabic name, Azheet M'Draws.

I really can't understand how that many people can be so gullible. $5 is one thing, but there's at least one contribution of $5000. What is that person thinking? I really don't get it. Oh well, not my circus, not my monkeys.

Their T & C clearly states you can't set up a donation for crimes, yet...here we are. I did try to report this fiasco, but apparently I'm too dumb.

Could that be the reason this is allowed?

The penalties have all been from civil cases thus far.

He's facing civil penalties. A ruling in a civil case is not a criminal conviction. It can lead to a separate criminal investigation, but that still doesn't make the civil case a criminal one.

He was found liable for sexual assault, which, separately, is a crime. He was not convicted of sexual assault. This is the same thing.

so at this point, I expect it is then moot for this.

But "fraud" is still a crime. I expect Alvin Bragg's case that goes to trial March 25 (so far), which is for "criminal" fraud, would be one that might apply at that point.

One cannot be convicted for a crime for which one wasn't indicted or charged.

One cannot be convicted for a crime in a civil case.

I can't believe this even needs to be explained.

Was Trump convicted of a crime in the E. Jean Carroll case? Obviously, he wasn't. But, but...sexual assault is a crime!!!

This is quite literally the same exact circumstance. Why would one be a conviction and the other not?

The first criminal trial is the hush money case, as the Guardian correctly notes in their headline:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/15/trump-court-hush-money-stormy-daniels

is whether this particular account violated GoFundMe's TOS and nothing more. Given that similar fundraising accounts to take care of penalties were permitted to continue by the service in the past, would thus be the answer to those questions, and the rest of what you wrote would be irrelevant.

On Saturday I saw that some gave $5 literally to post “F Trump”. The top donor at the time at $2,500 was a convicted sex offender.

will the orange asshole demand whatever has been raised?

you can bet he will

by the stupidity of magats

I don't think the magats will be able to keep up for more than a few days.

They are all the way up to $1.3M. Not insignificant, but a long, long way from the current total (I assume with interest) of $465M.
This counter makes me unusually happy, although I know it shouldn't.

https://trumpdebtcounter.com/

Or my slightly psychotic raccoon spirit animal.

Pissed off ones, like the one I scared in the garbage can, not so much.