About what I've given to DNC.

Not emulate their political views

As your link shows, the Teamsters in previous elections have not given anywhere near the same amount of money to Republicans as they have Democrats.

Don't be surprised if the Teamsters decide not to endorse Biden.

Whereas Dems get millions. So far I don’t think this single contribution is enough to worry they will not endorse Biden. If it gets into the higher six figures to the GOP for the total of the year though, I will start being worried.

I don't know why you keep referencing past election cycles.

But just to humor you, in 2020, the Teamsters Union PAC (which is being cited in the article as giving money), gave Republicans only $36,500 throughout the entirety of the 2020 campaign.

https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/teamsters-union/C00032979/summary/2020

In just this month, they've given more money than they did the whole 2020 election cycle.

Maybe wait until the cycle really takes off before drawing conclusions.

Your comparing it to previous election cycles seems irrelevant.

Especially with the Teamsters openly meeting with Trump (they did not in 2020 or 2016) and still holding their endorsement of Biden.

This is clearly NOT like previous election cycles so your continued pointing to 'em is irrelevant.

Making mountains out of molehills. There could be a million reasons strategy-wise why they might have done this. One of those reasons might be they are leaning towards endorsing Trump. There are likely millions of other reasons that don’t include that possibility.

Because right now they've given more money to the GOP than Democrats and have met with Trump twice discussing their endorsement.

None of that happened in previous election cycles. You know, which you kept mentioning. But I'm game. What are the million other reasons?

Again unless you are a fortune teller or built a Time Machine, you nor I do not know what the teamsters are going to do.

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🍷Cheers to you!

...was the perception by rank and file that Union leadership wasn't representing their concerns.

I was helping my older brother 'computerize' his local's membership data at that time -- on 5-1/4 inch floppy disks.

That Union endorsed Rayguns and he busted them and they were blackballed from the industry. Oh, the memories.....

A corporation.

For a long time I refused to believe it. But then my daughter went to work for the Actors' Equity Association (AEA) in LA as a clerk. It became as cruel and arbitrary as any corporation in its attempt to reduce labor costs.

At first they treated their office workers well....Then the corruption set in.

The new president gave herself and her executives huge raises while forcing their own employees to clock every minute of their work day and instituted draconian survalance methods. The union fought against the unionization of their own employees. It was a union for actors that didn't want their office staff to unionize.

Anyway, the job became horrible. People were quitting left and right. They didn't hire replacements and just loaded more and more work on the staff that remained. My daughter would call upset about how badly they treated her. She finally quit and it was the best thing for her.

One of the things the new president initiated was to make all the clerks clock in at their desk computers instead of at the clock. So it took about 10 minutes just to walk back to the desks area then about 15 minutes for the computer to boot up and then get the clock-in program running. So it required 30 minutes more of unpaid work in the mornings. And then it took just as long to clock out, close down your computer and walk to where the old time clock was. So they got another 30 minutes of unpaid labor, a total hour of labor they didn't pay for.

It was just so weird how when that new president came in, she destroyed moral, cut benefits and pay and generally was as tyrannical as any corporate idiot.

WTF?

These Teamsters (that support donald dump) think that they're somehow very intelligent and smarter than your average bear when in reality they're trampling on the legacy of Union members from the past that risked their lives to let them get to where they are. Short sighted self-centered fools. A big argument is before the SC right now concerning organizing.

What in the hell?!

because their handles were made of wood.

Pretending you're a big tough-guy when in reality the average truck driver is overweight with a litany of health problems. At least, by the time they hit 50. All are gonna need Medicaid or Medicare. Democratic programs that repukes want to destroy. I worked in a Union grocery store and we had the same shit going on there. I'd be like, "You voted for who???!!!" Waste of time explaining to them their mistake. Oh well, that is all.

I know a few and your details sum it up.
They need an

I retired Dec 8th. It was a long slog. 39 years 2 months. Always had a child support payment.

Get busy sleeping in and slowing down!
Planning trips for as long and anywhere you like!

makes me pissed but not surprised.
At my ex workplace the majority of "teamsters" there were magaloons.
Part of the reason I took early retirement.
I won't mention the local.

The Teamsters just endorsed Pres. Biden last month.

I thought

Teamsters still has yet to endorse somebody this year.

but the UAW endorsed Joe Biden.

https://uaw.org/uaw-endorses-joe-biden-for-president-of-the-united-states/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CToday%20I'm%20proud%20to,for%20the%20whole%20working%20class.

I will say it is not unusual for large entitys to donate to both sides of an election just to cover their bets and keep all the members happy.

...subsidiary of TrumpCo, at least that $45k isn't going to anyone that can hurt them.

They are behaving like Trumpers and emulating their language and tactics trying to recall Democrats out west. Quite shocking.

...that's been obvious for years.

If they become (at least) a tad beholden to the Teamsters Union that would NOT be a bad thing.

When Republican millionaires are dumping millions at a time in.

judgements Donny owes since he's making sure his family and flunkies are in charge of the RNC.

Looks like they are trying to influence the RNC.

It's a good reminder for Dems not to take anything for granted. There are opportunities for reforms to help truckers.

Any money going to the RNC will end up going to pay Trump's legal bills.

Trump met with them and somehow they must have liked it enough to donate money. Our side has plenty of good labor reform policies and should talk/listen to these truckers to earn their votes. This year is a tremendous opportunity for Dems to showcase how our party helps workers of all types while the other party spews BS.

There is absolutely no justification for it.

Bloody Hell.

The American Rescue plan bailed their irresponsible leadership for years of underfunding their employee pension fund. President Biden and the Democrats in congress gave them over 35 billion dollars. There were ZERO Republican votes supporting this. Fuck the teamsters and fuck Sean Obrien.

Not necessarily because the members will leave but more because they keep supporting F'ing moron legislatures that are bent on destroying any labor rights that were fought and died for since the late 1800's. It's only taken 40 years to undue almost all of it. There is so little labor support in government left thanks to the repugs. Nice going Teamsters for putting more nails in the coffin.

He undoubtedly has dirt on someone and extorted the funds. I'm sure Russia keeps him well stocked with dirt.

Some union workers are MAGA. There are MAGA truckers out there.

and vulnerabilities. We've heard trump work the phones. When individuals cower, assume trump got to them...with either a carrot or a stick. Most likely, a stick.

Our union concentrated on incumbents who supported "our issues," mostly having to do with the Postal Service. The support probably came out 2-1 in favor of Democrats. As I recall the aggregate contributions added up to a few million a year. NALC also supported candidates with phone banks and door knocking.

And though for several years I perceived "teamsters" a rather *cough* mixed bag intellectually therefore politically ignorant, none the less I would have been startled to see yet another entity traditionally despised by traditional republicans in theory, but not so much anymore.

Day is night. and night is day...
It's all quite interesting, isn't it?