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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,513 posts)
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 10:44 AM Mar 7

Navy demoted Ronny Jackson after probe into White House behavior

Source: Washington Post

Navy demoted Ronny Jackson after probe into White House behavior

By Dan Diamond and Alex Horton
March 7, 2024 at 9:00 a.m. EST



Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Tex.) served as personal physician to Presidents Barack Obama and Donald Trump between 2013 and 2018. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)

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Ronny Jackson, the former White House physician turned GOP congressman, regularly touts his military bona fides. ... "As a retired U.S. Navy Rear Admiral with nearly three decades of military service I understand the commitment and sacrifices made by servicemen and servicewomen to serve our country," the two-term Texas representative writes on his congressional website, posted to a page listing his work on veterans issues. {1}

But Jackson is no longer a retired admiral. The Navy demoted him in July 2022 following a damaging Pentagon inspector general's report that substantiated allegations about his inappropriate behavior as a White House physician, a previously unreported decision confirmed by a current defense official and a former U.S. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive personnel move. {2} ... Jackson is now a retired Navy captain, those people said -- a demotion that carries significant financial burden in addition to the social stigma of stripped rank in military circles.

Despite the demotion, Jackson has continued to refer to himself as a retired rear admiral, including in statements released since the Navy reclassified him as a retired captain. Former president Donald Trump and other Republicans have also continued to publicly describe Jackson using his former rank; it's unclear if they were aware of his demotion.

Jackson's office did not respond to requests for comment about the Navy's 2022 personnel action and his demotion.

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By Dan Diamond
Dan Diamond is a national health reporter for The Washington Post. He joined The Post in 2021 after five years at Politico, where he won a George Polk award for investigating the Trump administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic. Twitter https://twitter.com/ddiamond

By Alex Horton
Alex Horton is a national security reporter for The Washington Post focused on the U.S. military. He served in Iraq as an Army infantryman. Twitter https://twitter.com/AlexHortonTX

{1} https://jackson.house.gov/issues/issue/?IssueID=14920

{2} https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2021/03/03/ronny-jackson-report-dod/

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/03/07/ronny-jackson-demotion-white-house-medical-unit-navy/



It looks as if this happened two years ago, but the news is just now getting out.

It's as if he's trying to hide something .
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Navy demoted Ronny Jackson after probe into White House behavior (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Mar 7 OP
I endorse this demotion EYESORE 9001 Mar 7 #1
Overheard at the SOTU: Hey, Jackson, got any meth? stollen Mar 8 #63
When was the courts martial? Typically it is needed for demotion. jimfields33 Mar 7 #2
If he was a 'frocked' Admiral his promotion was never finalized. pfitz59 Mar 7 #13
That's true. But he was retired so I'm sure he was jimfields33 Mar 7 #14
Seems that Admiral was a provisional retirement rank Farmer-Rick Mar 7 #22
Obama promoted him to Admiral in 2016. former9thward Mar 7 #46
It's at the WaPo link posted Farmer-Rick Mar 7 #49
Every reporter when asking this slob a question: wolfie001 Mar 7 #3
He wouldn't be the first drug-addled closet case who calls himself the "Cap'n" peppertree Mar 7 #20
Captain Jack and Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy wolfie001 Mar 7 #37
But for us sentimental saps though... peppertree Mar 7 #38
Big Hit!!! I'm sure it was a #1 wolfie001 Mar 7 #39
Especially in Europe and Latin America peppertree Mar 7 #41
I heard Cap'n Crunch had issues with the white powder rpannier Mar 7 #51
Right up there with Fruit Loops peppertree Mar 7 #53
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Mar 7 #4
Me too. Glad to see that it happened. riversedge Mar 7 #52
I'm surprised this is just coming out. Are demotions of high-profile officers normally kept secret? sop Mar 7 #5
There's a difference between "quietly" and "secretly" Hekate Mar 7 #45
"a previously unreported decision" BumRushDaShow Mar 7 #6
no wonder he's such a jerk CatWoman Mar 7 #7
maybe we should just call him "rear?" cab67 Mar 7 #21
Rear view mirror... rubbersole Mar 7 #23
or "rear admiral" cab67 Mar 7 #24
Was thinking something more along the lines of Attilatheblond Mar 7 #33
Well, more publicity about his demotion should help. calimary Mar 7 #25
His district is the Texas Panhandle with a few extra counties markodochartaigh Mar 7 #36
Just another reason not EVER to go to Texas on vacation. calimary Mar 7 #48
Now demote Mike Flynn. nt Hotler Mar 7 #8
Also, too! dchill Mar 7 #9
I fixed it. nt Hotler Mar 7 #10
At least I got to do my Sarah Palin impression! dchill Mar 7 #11
That you did. Hotler Mar 7 #19
"Flynn has his head so far up putin's ass he can see Sarah Palin's porch." rubbersole Mar 7 #26
Sweet. nt Hotler Mar 7 #56
So say we all. sarge43 Mar 7 #43
Truth will out. Truth leans left. nt TeamProg Mar 7 #12
He's on the House Armed Services Committee Calista241 Mar 7 #15
if he is still referring to himself as a retired rear admiral drray23 Mar 7 #16
Maybe Putin promoted him back up to Admiral Attilatheblond Mar 7 #34
Good to learn this. nt Phoenix61 Mar 7 #17
He's a "REAR" alright.......... turbinetree Mar 7 #18
Captain Doofus - The Navy kept his designation as a Doofus Kennah Mar 7 #27
I can remember that we talked about Ronny Jackson a lot on DU FakeNoose Mar 7 #28
Sound like, well, lying to me. twodogsbarking Mar 7 #29
Where are the RWNJs who fancied themselves Stolen Valor police, huh? RockRaven Mar 7 #30
Stolen Valor is when you claim military service and you were not in. former9thward Mar 7 #44
RWNJs who bitch and moan about this stuff for political purposes are not RockRaven Mar 7 #50
From what UCMJ lawyers indicate NanaCat Mar 7 #54
Boom! Kingofalldems Mar 7 #57
Did you read your own post? former9thward Mar 7 #59
Did you pay attention to what he's doing? NanaCat Mar 8 #64
The Navy says he's using the rank wrongly. I'm with you. marble falls Mar 8 #66
He is a disgrace to both the US Navy and the medical profession. When does the medical profession Texin Mar 7 #31
N TX is probably proud of this asshole RussBLib Mar 7 #32
It looks to me like the media and some in the military both like to hide things that undermine their missions. jaxexpat Mar 7 #35
Good start. Now how about court-martialing Hassler Mar 7 #40
Wow, Bigly, demoted Joinfortmill Mar 7 #42
So what about the retired members participating in J6? The Grand Illuminist Mar 7 #47
Being six feet under would be satisfactory in lieu of a demotion. Lucky Luciano Mar 7 #55
Many are in their late 30s. The Grand Illuminist Mar 7 #58
Just saying there should have been repercussions for attempted coup plotters and soldiers. Lucky Luciano Mar 7 #61
He may not be a rear admiral anymore, but he is still a rare asshole. AZLD4Candidate Mar 7 #60
This Navy vet applauds the demotion of a scumbag. Permanut Mar 8 #62
stealing a rank that is not his is stolen valor to bad that he couldn't be charged with that. dawn5651 Mar 8 #65

pfitz59

(10,382 posts)
13. If he was a 'frocked' Admiral his promotion was never finalized.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 11:40 AM
Mar 7

Or he may have had an 'Admiral's Mast'. There are administrative means short of courts-martial.

jimfields33

(15,836 posts)
14. That's true. But he was retired so I'm sure he was
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 11:42 AM
Mar 7

“Appointed” to that. Even a captain’s mast would have gotten at least a sentence in some newspaper like the navy times at least.

Farmer-Rick

(10,192 posts)
22. Seems that Admiral was a provisional retirement rank
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 12:24 PM
Mar 7

According to the link:

"Military guidelines allow a provisional retirement rank if an officer is under investigation for misconduct at the time, as Jackson was during his departure from the Navy. Military officials have the option to downgrade the final rank if adverse findings are made, busting down an officer to the last grade they satisfactorily served."

This is different from frocking and a regular provisional rank. Frocking is a higher rank given with the expectation that the officer will attain that rank in a short time period.

A provisional rank is a temporary rank used for the billet or job the officer is holding. Like if the Captain of a ship dies, the XO will be given a provisional rank of Captain until a replacement can be found.

It sounds like this is a special case used for retiring officers.

As a Naval Officer, I was always told that I served at the pleasure of the president. Maybe Biden was not pleased.

But the Stinking Nazi sure loved all those free flowing drugs for everyone in the white house. I wonder if Trump and his staff were having orgies with underaged girls in the white House too.

Farmer-Rick

(10,192 posts)
49. It's at the WaPo link posted
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 05:15 PM
Mar 7

"Military guidelines allow a provisional retirement rank if an officer is under investigation for misconduct at the time, as Jackson was during his departure from the Navy. Military officials have the option to downgrade the final rank if adverse findings are made, busting down an officer to the last grade they satisfactorily served."

The simple answer is that downgrade to lower rank due to adverse findings is based on being investigated at retirement date, not date the rank was appointed. It does not matter when he got the appointment. It matters if he was being investigated at the time of retirement.

He did not complete Rear Admiral successfully because of adverse findings of an investigation started before his retirement date as a Rear Admiral.

That's to keep officers who have a lot of power from doing corrupt acts then escaping investigation or reprimands by submitting retirement requests.

peppertree

(21,639 posts)
20. He wouldn't be the first drug-addled closet case who calls himself the "Cap'n"
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 12:23 PM
Mar 7

Memories of Laguna Beach.

wolfie001

(2,252 posts)
37. Captain Jack and Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 01:54 PM
Mar 7

Those two are a couple of my fave songs. Captain and Tenille not so much.

peppertree

(21,639 posts)
41. Especially in Europe and Latin America
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 03:04 PM
Mar 7

They love American easy listening.

In Europe, they'll tell you: "It's the gentle, creative side of America we wish we saw more of."

In Latin America, they'll say: "It's the sound of what we wish we were more like ourselves."

(and in Asia, they say: "Karaoke!!" )

If they knew most kids these days, and for some time now, have mostly been into rap and metal.

Hekate

(90,721 posts)
45. There's a difference between "quietly" and "secretly"
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 04:04 PM
Mar 7

I didn’t get a “secret” divorce 45 years ago, but we were new in town & I didn’t want to discuss it. Imagine my chagrin when it showed up in the local paper under Vital Statistics, aka Births, Marriages, and Deaths. And some busybody at my ex’s business asked him about it.

That’s how I look at the difference.

BumRushDaShow

(129,157 posts)
6. "a previously unreported decision"
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 11:02 AM
Mar 7

And I expect they didn't bother digging for it until now when the "pill mill" stories started up (although unsubstantiated Hunter Biden stories were fair game for reporting and speculating about).

calimary

(81,335 posts)
25. Well, more publicity about his demotion should help.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 12:40 PM
Mar 7

Most Americans probably don’t know know or care. Folks in his district might, though.

AND he’ll be “up for review” in November.

markodochartaigh

(1,138 posts)
36. His district is the Texas Panhandle with a few extra counties
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 01:43 PM
Mar 7

they won't care. It includes the county where the Koch brothers' grandfather ran a newspaper. It has a Cook Partisan rating of 26. It was the district which had the lowest vote for Obama in 2008 and second lowest for Hillary. If voters there hear about Jackson's demotion they will dismiss it as political first, and then just ignore the facts if they are pressed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cook_Partisan_Voting_Index

calimary

(81,335 posts)
48. Just another reason not EVER to go to Texas on vacation.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 05:05 PM
Mar 7

I will also start looking at labels more closely. If it’s made in Texas, I won’t be buying it.

rubbersole

(6,704 posts)
26. "Flynn has his head so far up putin's ass he can see Sarah Palin's porch."
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 12:40 PM
Mar 7

Heard a variation on the Stephanie Miller Show. 😄

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
15. He's on the House Armed Services Committee
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 11:44 AM
Mar 7

Ballsy of the Navy to demote someone who has budgetary authority over them.

drray23

(7,634 posts)
16. if he is still referring to himself as a retired rear admiral
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 11:46 AM
Mar 7

they should drag him in front of a military court again and nail him for stolen Valor or impersonating a flag officer. There must rules against that.

FakeNoose

(32,656 posts)
28. I can remember that we talked about Ronny Jackson a lot on DU
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 12:57 PM
Mar 7

Maybe 5 or 6 years ago, we already knew what a pill-pushing quack that guy was. On top of that, he lied on Chump's annual health check-ups at the White House. There were rumors about him even back in 2018 ... the media just ignored it I guess.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
30. Where are the RWNJs who fancied themselves Stolen Valor police, huh?
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 01:11 PM
Mar 7

This guy is claiming a rank which he doesn't hold. Sounds like exactly what they were always up in arms about. Oh, but he is one of them so it is no biggie.

former9thward

(32,029 posts)
44. Stolen Valor is when you claim military service and you were not in.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 04:03 PM
Mar 7

Or when you claim a high medal that you never earned. Jackson was an Admiral. He was promoted to that position by Obama. I don't know if he still claims to be an Admiral but if he does he should not be doing it. But it is not stolen valor.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
50. RWNJs who bitch and moan about this stuff for political purposes are not
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 05:17 PM
Mar 7

pedantic in that manner. Any opportunity to use a hot button catch phrase is seized, so long as it is a political opponent rather than a fellow RWNJ.

former9thward

(32,029 posts)
59. Did you read your own post?
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 10:50 PM
Mar 7

"claim a military rank that someone didn't have" He DID have the rank. Please read your posts before hitting the "Post" button.

NanaCat

(1,178 posts)
64. Did you pay attention to what he's doing?
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 06:48 AM
Mar 8

He doesn't have the rank anymore.

Yet he's still claiming it.

Try keeping up before posting yourself.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
31. He is a disgrace to both the US Navy and the medical profession. When does the medical profession
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 01:11 PM
Mar 7

strip him of his privilege to practice medicine?

jaxexpat

(6,837 posts)
35. It looks to me like the media and some in the military both like to hide things that undermine their missions.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 01:41 PM
Mar 7

I'll put that on the long list of things that must be undone as soon as possible.

Started this list in the late 60's and have checked off very few items even as several of those have had to be relisted. It's like history is a one-off original until it's forgotten or reinterpreted. Then it sneaks out to repeat itself. That's where the generational value and reality of death makes itself unobviously, perhaps even perversely, useful. Propelling the species onward through the ages in clouds of star dust and mold.

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