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BumRushDaShow

(129,062 posts)
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:40 AM Mar 17

White House wants TikTok's parent company to divest: 'We don't want to see a ban'

Source: ABC News

March 17, 2024, 9:15 AM


The White House on Sunday reiterated support for a controversial bill meant to cut China's ties to TikTok by forcing the popular app's Chinese parent company to sell it -- or face an outright ban in the U.S.

At the same time, White House national security spokesperson John Kirby said on ABC News' "This Week," the administration acknowledges the concerns of many American users.

"I want to stress again over and over that this isn't about a ban," Kirby told "This Week" co-anchor Martha Raddatz. "We don't want to see a ban on TikTok. We understand there's a lot of people whose economic life relies on it."

He said the administration instead wants to see TikTok split from its China-based parent company, ByteDance, who staunchly opposes the legislation and maintains that the data fears around the use of TikTok are unfounded.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-tiktoks-parent-company-divest-ban/story?id=108185890

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White House wants TikTok's parent company to divest: 'We don't want to see a ban' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 17 OP
Social media companies are not safer under American ownership than Chinese. Look at 'X' CousinIT Mar 17 #1
"there should be a law that NO billionaire can own a social media company" PSPS Mar 17 #5
100% agree. n/t CousinIT Mar 17 #10
But TikTok says it's a ban. Igel Mar 17 #2
"when it comes to an Internet search take far too long to look up a simple fact." BumRushDaShow Mar 17 #6
Damn! That there's... GiqueCee Mar 17 #3
Because somehow forcing a company to sell Voltaire2 Mar 17 #4
What if a "leftwing gang" of "oligarchs" buys it? Still safer in the hands of Xi? emulatorloo Mar 17 #7
a) that isn't happening, b) yes. Voltaire2 Mar 17 #8
Not sure why you're so committed to making excuses for the CCP/PRC but you do you. emulatorloo Mar 17 #9
China is not my enemy and I recognize war propaganda. Voltaire2 Mar 17 #11
Biden's planning an invasion of China? Got a credible source for that CT? emulatorloo Mar 17 #13
Do you recognize Chinese propaganda? Hekate Mar 17 #14
China has hit the US with cyberattacks many times IronLionZion Mar 17 #15
So you would rather have it owned by a country that is openly hostile to us, using it for soft propaganda AZLD4Candidate Mar 18 #16
China is not openly hostile. Voltaire2 Mar 18 #20
You haven't lived there. I have. They teach children in schools to hate Americans and to kill them. AZLD4Candidate Mar 18 #22
To kill them? Polybius Mar 19 #26
15 years of watching high school military training when the drill instructors were telling students to kill the enemy AZLD4Candidate Mar 20 #27
That I believe Polybius Mar 20 #30
When you have students come up to you and tell you that they hate you because their Chinese teachers say AZLD4Candidate Mar 20 #31
Bytedance said it will store US data in US womanofthehills Mar 19 #24
You believe a CCP controlled company? AZLD4Candidate Mar 20 #28
ByteDance said they can store the data in US womanofthehills Mar 20 #29
I wonder if the same arguments were used in the 1930s with Nazi Party investment in companies AZLD4Candidate Mar 20 #32
Schumer says it's not a priority...highly doubt it will get past the senate PortTack Mar 17 #12
It won't go away. Bill passes. CCP controlled Byte Dance either sells its American interests or they lose their AZLD4Candidate Mar 18 #17
You're entitled to your opinion. Leader Schumer has already said it's not a priority. PortTack Mar 18 #18
My opinion? Snide. It's written in the damn bill. I read the bill. AZLD4Candidate Mar 18 #19
It's still your opinion!! Love love love the ignore button..bye! PortTack Mar 19 #23
The CCP does not control ByteDance. Voltaire2 Mar 18 #21
TicToc is in 150 counties & ByteDance is worth 300 billion. womanofthehills Mar 19 #25

CousinIT

(9,245 posts)
1. Social media companies are not safer under American ownership than Chinese. Look at 'X'
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:51 AM
Mar 17

When right wing extremist billionaires buy a social media platform, they manipulate and control it to ensure the extremist views they subscribe to are seen, heard and promoted first and foremost.

I believe there should be a law that NO billionaire can own a social media company for this reason: simply, Democracy.

PSPS

(13,599 posts)
5. "there should be a law that NO billionaire can own a social media company"
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 12:16 PM
Mar 17

A better idea would be that there be no billionaires in the first place. That would solve almost all of the problems facing society these days.

Igel

(35,317 posts)
2. But TikTok says it's a ban.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:54 AM
Mar 17

And some think it'll be turned off on all phones the day the "ban" goes into effect.

The bill is composed of less than two pages of text. People will listen for hours and read thousands of words about the bill and yet say they can't find the bill or don't have time to read it.

Then again, I have kids who spend all day on their phones and when it comes to an Internet search take far too long to look up a simple fact.

BumRushDaShow

(129,062 posts)
6. "when it comes to an Internet search take far too long to look up a simple fact."
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 12:23 PM
Mar 17

Ain't that the damn truth!

GiqueCee

(629 posts)
3. Damn! That there's...
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 12:07 PM
Mar 17

... the reddest herring I ever did see!
I'm no technological wizard, and correct me if I'm wrong, but if a pimple-faced incel sniffing his own farts in his mother's basement can commandeer someone's computer on the other side of the country, then there is little or nothing that will stop a determined Chinese hacker from gleaning whatever information he wants from a teenager's dance video, or makeup tutorial on Tik Tok. But national secrets? Probably not.
Get a fuckin' grip, Chicken Little! Spreading rumors that Biden will sign a bill banning Tik Tok is a tempest in a teapot created to get 18-year-olds' bloomers in a bunch so they won't want to vote for Biden, no matter what Tay Tay says.
Biden should just let this half-baked scam seep into the manure pile with all the other Republican bullshit, but only after Dark Brandon ridicules it to death.
Show 'em how it's done, Joe.

Voltaire2

(13,048 posts)
4. Because somehow forcing a company to sell
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 12:15 PM
Mar 17

it’s prime asset, with the likely new owners being a gang of rightwing oligarchs, is so much better?

emulatorloo

(44,130 posts)
13. Biden's planning an invasion of China? Got a credible source for that CT?
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:13 PM
Mar 17

Was the Grindr Divestiture in 2020 an ACT OF WAR as well? Or are you even aware of that?

Grindr has been sold by its Chinese owner after the US expressed security concerns / Grindr was sold for about $608.5 million
By Jay Peters, a news editor who writes about technology, video games, and virtual worlds. He’s submitted several accepted emoji proposals to the Unicode Consortium.
Mar 6, 2020 at 11:26 AM MST

https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/6/21168079/grindr-sold-chinese-owner-us-cfius-security-concerns-kunlun-lgbtq

LGBTQ dating app Grindr has been sold by its Chinese owners, reports the Financial Times and Reuters. The sale comes after a US government committee expressed national security concerns about Beijing Kunlun Tech’s ownership of the app last year. Kunlun is now selling Grindr to San Vicente Acquisition for about $608.5 million.

Kunlun originally bought Grindr in 2018, but the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) reportedly informed Kunlun that its ownership of Grindr was a national security risk, according to a March 2019 Reuters report. Kunlun did not submit its acquisition of Grindr for CFIUS review, which is perhaps why the committee made the rare request to undo an already-completed acquisition, reported Reuters.

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the FT says the committee worried the Chinese government could use personal data from the app to blackmail US citizens — which could include US government officials. And as of late, the US has been scrutinizing app developers more heavily over how they handle personal data. CFIUS blocked acquisitions of MoneyGram and AppLovin by Chinese companies in the past over security concerns.

Grindr’s data handling practices have also come into question by other groups over the past few years. In January, a Norwegian nonprofit filed three complaints alleging that Grindr’s Android app shares personal data with ad companies in violation of GDPR. In April 2018, a different Norwegian nonprofit found that Grindr shared its users’ HIV statuses with two outside companies, a practice that Grindr has since stopped.

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
15. China has hit the US with cyberattacks many times
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:23 PM
Mar 17

they are comparable to Russia as US adversaries. The Chinese government of course, not the civilian people.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,697 posts)
16. So you would rather have it owned by a country that is openly hostile to us, using it for soft propaganda
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 12:10 AM
Mar 18

and having no desire to use the data mined from it for its political whims?

Voltaire2

(13,048 posts)
20. China is not openly hostile.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 08:31 AM
Mar 18

And yes, I would prefer that yet another vastly popular social media platform was not taken over by domestic fascist plutocrats.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,697 posts)
22. You haven't lived there. I have. They teach children in schools to hate Americans and to kill them.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 08:43 AM
Mar 18

Unless you've lived there, westerners know nothing about the place. I lived there 15 years, fluently speak the language, and married a Chinese woman.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,697 posts)
27. 15 years of watching high school military training when the drill instructors were telling students to kill the enemy
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 09:12 AM
Mar 20

and the enemy were "America, Britain, Japan, and Israel."

These military trainings in ALL levels of education normally happen in August before classes begin.

But again, I only lived there from 2008-2023. What the fuck do I know?

Someone who went there on a "trip" knows more than someone who lived there 15 years, worked there, speaks the language fluently, and married a citizen that went through the same military training shit in HS and University.

Now, they do it in elementary schools.

As for evidence, I witnessed all of this FIRST hand.

&t=404s



Polybius

(15,423 posts)
30. That I believe
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 12:20 PM
Mar 20

But you made it sound like they teach kids in school to kill Americans if they see one (like Hamas teaches kids in school to kill Israelis).

They teach children in schools to hate Americans and to kill them.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,697 posts)
31. When you have students come up to you and tell you that they hate you because their Chinese teachers say
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 08:56 PM
Mar 20

Americans are the enemy of China for the better part of eight years. . .

There's a reason my wife and I left.

Oh, their teachers are all Party members too. To be a teacher in China, you MUST be a Party member.

womanofthehills

(8,712 posts)
24. Bytedance said it will store US data in US
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 08:33 PM
Mar 19

TicToc is in 150 counties- no big problem for
ByteDance if they are not in America for awhile. They are worth 300 billion.

The Chinese company TenCent is an investor in ByteDance & they are invested in Reddit, Pinterest, SnapChat plus more -I’m sure Vanguard & Blackwater own all these companies too.

womanofthehills

(8,712 posts)
29. ByteDance said they can store the data in US
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 11:20 AM
Mar 20

TicToc is in 150 countries. Why would ByteDance give up a great business for just one country?

Plus other Chinese businesses are heavy invested in Reddit, Pinterest, Snapchat etc.

PortTack

(32,771 posts)
12. Schumer says it's not a priority...highly doubt it will get past the senate
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:08 PM
Mar 17

The house gqp eager to pass this knows it would be a big political win for them. 170 million ppl don’t want it to go away. You don’t think they are going to blame the Dems for its demise?? Wake up Dems that support the bill!!

AZLD4Candidate

(5,697 posts)
17. It won't go away. Bill passes. CCP controlled Byte Dance either sells its American interests or they lose their
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 12:11 AM
Mar 18

business license in the US.

Stop being a platform for CCP propaganda. It's not a ban unless Byte Dance doesn't sell.

PortTack

(32,771 posts)
18. You're entitled to your opinion. Leader Schumer has already said it's not a priority.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 02:51 AM
Mar 18

He also sees this is huge mistake politically with 170 million users. The gqp is frothing at the mouth to tie this around President Biden’s neck!

You might educate yourself…TikTok cannot be sold …period!

womanofthehills

(8,712 posts)
25. TicToc is in 150 counties & ByteDance is worth 300 billion.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 08:37 PM
Mar 19

They are the largest holder - with 40% of TicToc. The rest is owned internationally.

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