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BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts) Sun Mar 24, 2024, 08:19 AM Mar 24

China blocks use of Intel and AMD chips in government computers, FT reports

Source: Reuters

March 24, 2024 4:49 AM EDT

March 24 (Reuters) - China has introduced guidelines to phase out U.S. microprocessors from Intel (INTC.O) and AMD (AMD.O) from government personal computers and servers, the Financial Times reported on Sunday.

The procurement guidance also seeks to sideline Microsoft's (MSFT.O) Windows operating system and foreign-made database software in favour of domestic options, the report said. Government agencies above the township level have been told to include criteria requiring "safe and reliable" processors and operating systems when making purchases, the newspaper said.

China's industry ministry in late December issued a statement with three separate lists of CPUs, operating systems and centralised database deemed "safe and reliable" for three years after the publication date, all from Chinese companies, Reuters checks showed.

The State Council Information Office, which handles media queries for the council, China's cabinet, did not immediately respond to a faxed request for comment. Intel and AMD did not immediately respond to Reuters request for comment.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-blocks-use-intel-amd-chips-government-computers-ft-reports-2024-03-24/

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China blocks use of Intel and AMD chips in government computers, FT reports (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 24 OP

Thus guaranteeing they won't catch up anytime soon. Martin68 Mar 24 #1

Probably a false assumption... justaprogressive Mar 24 #2

This just covers business grade PCs and servers.... reACTIONary Mar 24 #7

I agree, the INTEL chips isn't "leading edge," but it is vital to a vast network of very powerful processors. Martin68 Mar 24 #8

They have to make it look like someone else is the threat SouthernDem4ever Mar 24 #3

China, hilariously, helping the US with our own goals. Lancero Mar 24 #4

"many considering it to be somewhere between adware and spyware" BumRushDaShow Mar 24 #5

LOL. They don't want to use any Intel or AMD CPUs. So, they'd rather use the 4lbs Mar 24 #6

The People's Republic of Apple already did that. hunter Mar 25 #9

Apple originally used their own (partnered with IBM & Motorola) chips in earlier products BumRushDaShow Mar 25 #11

All they need to do is make cheap copies John Shaft Mar 25 #10

That's not true any more. hunter Mar 25 #12

Maybe they could apply some of that "innovation" John Shaft Mar 25 #14

only fair tit for tat dembotoz Mar 25 #13

Martin68

(22,822 posts)

1. Thus guaranteeing they won't catch up anytime soon.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sun Mar 24, 2024, 09:08 AM

Mar 24

justaprogressive

(2,192 posts)

2. Probably a false assumption...

Reply to Martin68 (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 24, 2024, 09:35 AM

Mar 24

Reverse engineer what they can and then invade Taiwan...

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)

7. This just covers business grade PCs and servers....

Reply to Martin68 (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 24, 2024, 12:03 PM

Mar 24

... which are based on the x86 class of chip sets. These are made by many different manufacturers. This isn't leading edge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_x86_manufacturers

Martin68

(22,822 posts)

8. I agree, the INTEL chips isn't "leading edge," but it is vital to a vast network of very powerful processors.

Reply to reACTIONary (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 24, 2024, 12:07 PM

Mar 24

Not to mention businesses, academia, etc.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)

3. They have to make it look like someone else is the threat

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sun Mar 24, 2024, 09:43 AM

Mar 24

Especially since the TikTok hullabaloo.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)

4. China, hilariously, helping the US with our own goals.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sun Mar 24, 2024, 10:46 AM

Mar 24

We've been wanting to restrict the kinds of advanced western chips that China could import for a while now, much to the detriment of the bottom lines of the companies that have a taste for Chinese money.

Of course, the complaints about their eschewing Windows for safety concerns is hilarious to boot. Windows has a lot of detractors who blast it for it's overly broad telemetry and data collection, with many considering it to be somewhere between adware and spyware. So their banning of Microsoft for safety concerns is not to far out of line with public perception.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)

5. "many considering it to be somewhere between adware and spyware"

Reply to Lancero (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 24, 2024, 11:03 AM

Mar 24

or a virus.

(yes I'm bothering you )

4lbs

(6,858 posts)

6. LOL. They don't want to use any Intel or AMD CPUs. So, they'd rather use the

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sun Mar 24, 2024, 11:08 AM

Mar 24

ones they blatantly ripped off from them in their "Made in China" facilities?

Ahem.

Just like their eschewing of Microsoft's Windows OS for more "domestic" ones.

All for options that are "safe and reliable".

Yeah, sure. Ok.

Just say you ripped them off, ignored international copyright, and want to use your own copied shit instead of theirs.

hunter

(38,317 posts)

9. The People's Republic of Apple already did that.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2024, 07:10 AM

Mar 25

Apple announced its plan to switch Mac computers from Intel processors to Apple silicon at WWDC 2020 on June 22, 2020. The first Macs built with the Apple M1 chip were unveiled on November 10, 2020. As of June 2023, the entire Mac lineup uses Apple silicon chips.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_silicon

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)

11. Apple originally used their own (partnered with IBM & Motorola) chips in earlier products

Reply to hunter (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 25, 2024, 07:31 AM

Mar 25

and eventually moved to Intel almost 20 years ago - https://www.cultofmac.com/484394/apple-intel-over-powerpc/

(I remember when that happened )

Going full circle!