MSNBC has Nicole Wallace (r), David Jolly (r) and other nonpracticing r's (N.W.'s description of herself). It took me quite awhile to warm up to N.W. and I listen to her show, but not daily.

How do the r's that have generally passed the smell test and appear on MSNBC differ from Ronna McDaniel?

Thank you for insight.

She is a proven liar and has defended the January 6 Insurrection. Do you see the difference?

Want to see documentation? She should be in jail for her role in the fake elector scheme, not on NBC:

It's all about money

If she stays, which after the debacle of the last few days is questionable, it's NBC who will be losing money. First McDaniel will be the one getting the contract and all NBC MIGHT get out of it is a few more viewers. If this was an effort to increase their viewership, they have failed. If anything, if McDaniels stays, NBC may actually lose viewers. MAGA viewers would not watch NBC if their life depended on it.

Are you serious?

She actively atones for having worked for George W, and is very clear sighted about what we are facing as a nation.
Her current focus is on the possibility of American autocracy, facing it head on.
She also covers women, gun safety, mental health, Ukraine, and other less-covered by corporate media topics. Goes right to the heart of things. She is that rare combination of intelligence and emotional depth. I will never forget her "Lives Well Lived" segments during Covid.

Every one of them would vote for banning abortion, banning LGBT rights, and giving tax cuts to the rich in a heartbeat. Just because they criticize Felonious Fuckface does not make them the friends of liberals.

It's why I have refused to watch msnbc for years. And I used to have it on in the background with the sound off all day long. They keep shifting, and in the wrong direction.

Although I do like and believe Nicolle Wallace, I don't trust the rest of the MSNBC Republicons.

Andrea Mitchell, Michael Steele, Chuck Todd, Stephanie Ruhle, Joe Scarborough.....

MSNBC tried to shove Greta Van Susteren on us, and she lasted about two weeks.

Isn't it funny how they get all tough with Democrats and weak kneed with Republicons? That's because Dems will tolerate their questions, and not threaten their careers or lives.

Although I do like Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell, I stopped watching MSNBC long ago. Their corporate game is obvious, and their insistence on hiring Republicon pundits - despite their audience shows management's true colors.

Not to mention, I cannot take another moment of Deadbeat Donald the Traitor's 24/7 coverage. Some of it needs to be done for sure, but I simply cannot stomach listening and watching about him anymore.

It's real news, and not opinion. It's actually pretty damned refreshing to watch. It isn't sensationalist bullshit, and it isn't 24/7 pundits spouting opinions. They don't have "stars;" just people who are professionals at telling you the facts. And they even do a feel-good story here and there. It's almost what news used to be like.

If your carrier doesn't have it, they have an app for your phone and one for streaming TV.

For me, it is the antidote to constant Don Poorleone coverage 24/7 and a constant BREAKING NEWS banner when what they're talking about broke days ago (I fucking can't stand that sort of sensationalism).

I highly recommend Scripps News for anyone who is sick of sensationalist reporting and constant opinion bullshit masquerading as news.

nbc station is Scripps news affiliate. They show some of their reports, but it’s mostly local news. It’s the station I watch most often.

That was a miserable fail

legitimizing Trump..their hatred for the Clintons, Hillary in particular, was palpable..Joe and Mika were downright giddy at the prospect of their party buddy Trump beating Hillary...they had no problem selling an amoral clown as a viable candidate, someone who would "grow" into the office...Andrea did her daily trash Hillary schtick, and Chuck allowed his Republican guests to spew "but her emails" bullshit without pushback .... and when Trump won, OMG access access access..until Trump did what he does best.. target/attack/demean... Mika and Joe shed their Trump costumes and became rabid anti-Trumpers, Andrea continued to spout Hillary hate, and Chuck, not one to give up access to the Trump White House, played host to any and all MAGA cretins, again with no follow-up or pushback....

and now you have Kristen Welker giving Trump apologist and election denier Ronna McDaniel (newly repentant for a shit-ton of cash) a platform to vomit her crap mea culpas...give me a fucking break!

We (as consumers of this station) need to speak up when try that crap on us again. I don’t want to but
I will just turn it off, if I must.

Many if not most times Nicole prefaces Trump's name with the following,
or in the case of the twice-impeached, disgraced, now-indicted ex-president.

Some of the fill-ins for her do the same.

There is no reason to provide voice to those that support the overthrow of the government as Ronna McDaniel did. And none of the Republicans (former in some cases now) that appear on the show do. There is enough opposing views that a scumbag like Ronna does not need to be included.

Nor have they continued to claim Felonious Fuckface won the 2020 election.

She has no business on media anywhere except Newsmax and Fox who have also done all of the above.

As even an infrequent listener to Nicole (I like her, but bad time of day for me), I can't count the number of times that she has spontaneously expressed her extreme regret for having been a Republican. She left the party well before the current craziness became normalized, out of principle and not as grab for commercial interests.

Even Hillary Clinton was a Republican at one time, so just how long do you want to still keep calling them Republicans after they've left the party?

And give more tax cuts to rich people, and demolish affirmative action, and ...

Never trust a republican.

Just because any of them hate Diaper Don doesn't make any of them trustworthy. Have they given up the GOP and registered Democrat? Nope? I rest my case. Never trust a republican.

But I grew weary of the-sky-is-falling breathless "somebody said something and I'm outraged" drumbeat and the constant breaking news banner when there is no actual breaking news. So I stopped watching and my mental health is better for it.

It's all pure sensationalism and it's clear that sensationalism sells. So by all means, if sensationalist gossip masquerading as news is your thing, you do you.

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and you once watched her show?

What a great way of researching.

Did you also know Elizabeth Warren used to be a staunch republican?

That is good enough for me.

People sometimes change overtime once they are more informed on issues.

Some people, apparently you don't.

I'm done arguing with you about something that simply doesn't matter. If you want to defend all of msnbc, have at it. I don't care. I haven't watched anything on that channel in ages and I don't intend to, so it just doesn't matter. The fact that their company hired someone who belongs in prison for an attempted coup just tells me I made the right choice.

Just do yourself a favor and stop.

I mean, wow.

Nicole could go to any network she wants to. MSNBC tried to move her to prime time but she said No - wanted to be home at a more reasonable time for her kids. She just had another child too.

...who used her as a fill-in, which allowed her talents to be demonstrated. Wallace became a lapsed Republican after experiencing Sarah Palin. Trumpism was her final straw.

Because everyone avoids her like the plague.

They had him on almost every morning (on the phone) leading up to the 2016 election.

And then there is Michael Steele who was also a RNC Chairperson 2007-2011.

So adding conservative/Republican personalities to their list of contributors and anchors is nothing new. But McDaniel was a bridge too far.

If I was her after this morning appearance and the follow up with Chucky Todd and Kimberly Atkins Stohr I wouldn't want to show my face in that studio ever again. She was absolutely demolished. I would disappear.

Nor do they repeat Russian propaganda.

It took the country a while to wake up.

...and their ethics are dictated by dollar bills. Like they did with Hoe Hewitt, NBC needs to cut their losses.

And facts get swept under the rug.

A $69 M lesson?

is back to "business as usual" elsewhere 'cause that apple don't fall far from the tree.

Can't believe they thought Ronna McDaniel would be a good fit. I can hear televisions clicking off all over the United States as soon as she appears on the screen.

Not that he was specifically a MAGA or an election denier, because I don't believe he was. But he was definitely an early proponent of both-sider-ism, and he did his best to trash Hillary's campaign. Had he not been fired he would be trashing Biden too.

No, apparently NBC/Comcast will never learn.

Do they even hear themselves anymore? WHO is it important to?

Keith Olbermann has talked about the higher ups quite a bit on his show as he's worked for a lot of networks. Some of the networks have hired him back - sometimes more than once.

He describes how the higher ups can be totally out of touch. Keith doesn't try to explain the why's of it so much as give a very good behind the scenes account of the goings on. And then he lets the audience infer from that.

So, at the meeting to decide about hiring Ronna... Do you think they might've said:
"Wow, look how smart we are!"
"How lucky we are to be able to get Ronna on our network!"
"They will all thank us later!"
Sign here.

Do you think they understand now who the msnbc audience is?

Welker interviewed McDaniel and did a pretty good job, fact checking all along.

Then Chuck Todd came on and in spite of his disgusting record of bothsiderism and general craven spinelessness, stood tall today. Here is what he said, quoted from Politico:

The voice of sanity - how far we have fallen

He’s 1000% right

Does Mediaite also use the term "right-leaning" when referring to FQX and their kin?

I'll go visit and bookmark them. ...

... https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ is another good source.

Turns out I didn't have to work 48 years to survive and build a most modest nest egg, all I had to do was try to overthrow the U.S. Federal Government and I would find work on network television as a political insider.

Silly, silly me.

So NBC decided they would air liars and insurrectionists and that would be okay because they're not putting them on MSNBC?

Either you admit it's a mistake or just admit you're a whore network.

The NBC News staff have no balls or is it they have no credibility?

If your comment is “I haven’t watched ______ in______years please do not comment on current media employees. Stop the “I hate Republicans more than you” insinuations, it’s borderline offensive. Thank you.

I have pared back my attention to it’s broadcasts. These people can’t get hired by FOX, so they come to MSNBC to spew their delusions or claim to have had an epiphany. I don’t believe them.

be on nbc at all.