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brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 03:31 PM Mar 27

MTA board OKs congestion pricing plan, paving way for $15 tolls (and up) starting this summer

Source: WNBC New York

A majority of the MTA board voted Wednesday in favor of New York City congestion pricing, greenlighting the controversial plan that will charge cars $15 to enter Manhattan below 61st Street and hit trucks with even higher tolls starting in just a few months.

Only one of the 12 board members opposed the proposal. The no vote was Nassau County board member David Mack.

The approval, essentially a rubberstamp of "clarifications" like exemptions, given the plan itself was approved last year, means congestion pricing can begin following a 60-day public information campaign and a concurrent 30-day testing period.

Almost all 110 toll readers are already installed, positioning the MTA to begin collecting as soon as June 15. Federal judges on either side of the Hudson River could still block the plan, though the MTA expects that not to be the case.



Read more: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/traffic/transit-traffic/congestion-pricing-nyc-mta-vote/5264500/



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MTA board OKs congestion pricing plan, paving way for $15 tolls (and up) starting this summer (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 27 OP
For comparison, the central London congestion charge is £15 a day muriel_volestrangler Mar 27 #1
The NYC congestion charge applies only to entries... brooklynite Mar 27 #2
Well, London is per day, not per trip muriel_volestrangler Mar 27 #3
More the point that: if you live south of 60th Street and drive to lower Manhattan, you'll never pay. brooklynite Mar 27 #4
Yeah, the London residents' discount is 90% muriel_volestrangler Mar 27 #5
Yes. No residential discounts. brooklynite Mar 27 #6
Entries only? IbogaProject Mar 27 #10
Correct. Only charge when you cross the cordon brooklynite Mar 27 #15
I recall the posts ripping into Wendy's when it was reported they were implementing surge pricing MichMan Mar 27 #7
There is a public benefit to reducing traffic and raising funds for mass transit. brooklynite Mar 27 #8
What is the impact on the incomes of door dash drivers using motorbikes ? MichMan Mar 27 #11
Which they do... brooklynite Mar 27 #12
Was not aware that many door dash drivers already resided within the zone MichMan Mar 27 #13
Finally...GOOD! sir pball Mar 27 #9
SO regressive and hardly anyone is mentioning that. Big business and the rich will not kelly1mm Mar 27 #14
How many working class people need to drive a car into and pay for parking in Manhattan? brooklynite Mar 27 #16
One is enough. I am mainly thinking of tradespeople that need to have tools and/or go to kelly1mm Mar 27 #17
They will just pass on the extra costs to their customers MichMan Mar 28 #19
New Yorkers pay some of the highest taxes in the nation ripcord Mar 27 #18
When I saw the initials MTA I immediately thought it was about Boston (Mass Transit Association) ificandream Mar 28 #20
No. Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (MBTA) since 1967. brooklynite Mar 28 #21
I just remember MTA ificandream Mar 28 #22

muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
1. For comparison, the central London congestion charge is £15 a day
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 03:40 PM
Mar 27

whether car or truck (motorbikes are exempt, and residents in the area get a 90% discount). That's about $19.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
2. The NYC congestion charge applies only to entries...
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 03:41 PM
Mar 27

The London charge applies to any vehicle trip within the zone.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
3. Well, London is per day, not per trip
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 03:46 PM
Mar 27

So it doesn't matter if you go in, come back out, go in again, come back out, all on the same day - it's £15. If you mean "if someone enters lower Manhattan on Monday, and stays there overnight, and then leaves on Tuesday, that's just one charge", OK, and in London, it'd be £30, though not that many non-residents will park there overnight - expensive in its own right, typically.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
5. Yeah, the London residents' discount is 90%
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 03:57 PM
Mar 27

So that makes a lot of difference. If a lower Manhattan resident drives out once a week, do they have to pay to get back in?

IbogaProject

(2,815 posts)
10. Entries only?
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:19 PM
Mar 27

So if I move my car for alternate side that is exempt? The 90% reduction in London is a tax credit at the end of the year, they bill them all year and residents have to file to get it back. I'm not happy getting wacked to plug a hole in the state budget to find the very mismanaged MTA. I already pay an extra state income tax surcharge just for being a Manhattan resident. This 'fee' is a regressive flat tax.

MichMan

(11,931 posts)
7. I recall the posts ripping into Wendy's when it was reported they were implementing surge pricing
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 04:01 PM
Mar 27

Stating it was corporate greed to gouge consumers who wanted to eat there during normal lunch and dinner times.

How is this any different?

MichMan

(11,931 posts)
11. What is the impact on the incomes of door dash drivers using motorbikes ?
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:21 PM
Mar 27

Might have to use mass transit for deliveries.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
12. Which they do...
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:40 PM
Mar 27

Add to which, the number of people ordering food from OUTSIDE the zone to be delivered INSIDE the zone is minimal.

MichMan

(11,931 posts)
13. Was not aware that many door dash drivers already resided within the zone
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:56 PM
Mar 27

In that case, they are already there and wouldn't be paying it. They probably like having less congestion for their deliveries anyway.

I've only been to NYC once and that was 30 years ago. I always thought that area was a relatively expensive part of the city to live in. My mistake.

sir pball

(4,742 posts)
9. Finally...GOOD!
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 04:32 PM
Mar 27

As a half-breed New Yorker who spent a lot of my childhood, and 2009-2021, in The City…about freakin' time!

Almost no vehicles need to be in that zone. Taxis and Ubers, sure, but the endless stream of trucks on Canal HAS to stop, and don't even get me started on CPW during a weekday rush hour.

kelly1mm

(4,733 posts)
14. SO regressive and hardly anyone is mentioning that. Big business and the rich will not
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 07:31 PM
Mar 27

feel this but $75 a week/ $300 a month / $3600 a year is a big chunk of change for working class people that need to go into NYC on a regular basis ....

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
16. How many working class people need to drive a car into and pay for parking in Manhattan?
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 07:33 PM
Mar 27

We have this thing called a subway. Runs 24 hours a day.

kelly1mm

(4,733 posts)
17. One is enough. I am mainly thinking of tradespeople that need to have tools and/or go to
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 08:13 PM
Mar 27

different job sites.

MichMan

(11,931 posts)
19. They will just pass on the extra costs to their customers
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 10:38 AM
Mar 28

They should just add it as a separate line item so customers understand the reasoning.

ripcord

(5,399 posts)
18. New Yorkers pay some of the highest taxes in the nation
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 08:17 PM
Mar 27

But they are still hit with these fees, what do they pay taxes for?

ificandream

(9,372 posts)
20. When I saw the initials MTA I immediately thought it was about Boston (Mass Transit Association)
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 11:06 AM
Mar 28

I remembered those letters from my childhood. Don't know if they still call it that there.

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