Trump ramps up attacks on judge in hush money case after gag order
Source: NBC News
March 27, 2024, 3:05 PM EDT / Updated March 27, 2024, 3:29 PM EDT
Less than 24 hours after getting hit with a partial gag order in the New York criminal case involving his alleged falsification of business records, former President Donald Trump repeatedly lashed out at one person who's not covered by the ruling the judge.
In a series of posts on his social media platform, Trump called Judge Juan Merchan "biased and conflicted" while also taking aim at the judge's daughter for a second day in a row.
In a ruling Tuesday, Merchan noted the impending April 15 trial date and said Trump must "refrain" from making or directing others to make public statements about known or reasonably foreseeable witnesses concerning their potential participation in the case, as well as about individual prosecutors and court staff and their family members. The order did not mention the judge and his family members a loophole Trump exploited Wednesday.
"This Judge, by issuing a vicious 'Gag Order,' is wrongfully attempting to deprive me of my First Amendment Right to speak out against the Weaponization of Law Enforcement," Trump wrote, saying the judge "is suffering from an acute case of Trump Derangement Syndrome" and should recuse himself from the case.
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-ramps-attacks-judge-hush-money-case-gag-order-rcna145297
Beachnutt
(7,324 posts)he did not violate the gag order, did he or not ?
BumRushDaShow
(129,067 posts)The same kind of order happened with the NY civil fraud case when Judge Engoron imposed a gag order after 45 started attacking his clerk, and the order exempted the judge himself - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-rages-judge-law-clerk-new-york-fraud-trial-gag-order-paused-rcna126496
The judge issued the gag order after Trump had made critical comments about his law clerk on social media and to reporters covering the trial in Manhattan
BlueKota
(1,741 posts)Was the second aiming at the judge's daughter before or after the gag order? The article doesn't make it clear if was before or after. I would say it's a violation if it's after.
Midnight Writer
(21,768 posts)Except he will get more attention in the media.
BlueKota
(1,741 posts)I don't get why anyone who believes in justice thinks it fine that he just thumbs is nose at it, and he's allowed to keep doing it, with nothing but a a verbal warning and the threat of dire consequences which never are actually followed through on?
BumRushDaShow
(129,067 posts)and that might elicit a response from the judge (or not, if it doesn't happen again...and again).
It's like a parent disciplining a child - they might first start with a "verbal request" of "Please stop", and then if the child acts out again, the parent will give a "warning", after which if the adverse behavior continues, the parent might escalate to some sort of "punishment" (time out or whatever).
I.e. (although some do just that) - a parent usually doesn't just haul off and backhand the child across the face with the first infraction.
iluvtennis
(19,861 posts)Escurumbele
(3,395 posts)He keeps testing the legal system, and I hate to say it, he is right to do so because so far he has proven that our legal system is made up of a bunch of cowards. This is so disgusting.
A friend of mine today first asked me a question, "why haven't the Democrats put that guy in jail yet?" So I explained to him that it was not the Democrats who could do that but the weak justice system, then he said something that we all need to think about, "if he is not put in jail he will win the election, the world today is strange and complicated."...Yes, the World seems to be going fascist, did Democracy fail us all? I know in some countries it did, and USA is at fault for no pressing harder for taxing the ultra rich as they deserved to be taxed, using that money to open opportunities for everyone, using that money for free healthcare for everyone, free education, that is how a country becomes a power, by empowering its people, not by setting the balance of power one way to favour the ultra rich, that is how fascism rises, when people loose hope.
Think. Again.
(8,166 posts)Or is that a volunteer position?
BumRushDaShow
(129,067 posts)otherwise there's a good chance they will get overruled on appeal.
They have to establish that they made every effort to get the parties to comply with the need to maintain order and not allow excessive disruption leading to obstruction of justice during the period of the proceedings, and that is done by increasingly escalated additional warnings and/or orders.
Think. Again.
(8,166 posts)...what I did read mentioned "court staff" but I'm not sure if that was journalistic paraphrasing.
I guess what I'm wondering is if the Judge, and therefore his family, falls within that.
BumRushDaShow
(129,067 posts)It says -
THEREFORE, it is hereby
ORDERED, that the People's motion for a restriction on extrajudicial statements by the
Defendant is GRANTED to the extent that Defendant is directed to refrain from the folllwing:
a. Making or directing others to make public statements about known reasonably foreseeable
witnesses concerning their potential participation in the investigation or in this criminal
proceeding;
b. Making or directing others to make public statements about (1) counsel in the case other
than the District Attorney, (2) members of the court's staff and the District, Attorney's staff,
or (3) the family members of any counsel or staff member, if those statements are made with
the intent to materially interfere with, or to cause others to materially interfere with, counsel's
or staff's work in this criminal case, or with the knowledge that such interference is likely to
result; and
c. Making or directing officers to make public statements about any perspective juror or any
juror in this criminal proceeding.
"The foregoing constitutes the Decision and Order of the Court.
Dated: March 26,2024
New York, New York
(snip)
IIRC, the "Judge" would be considered/referred to as "The Court" (formally) vs the "Court's staff". It's archaic legalese.
Think. Again.
(8,166 posts)...I didn't realize the Judge as an individual is referred to as the court, that seems weird, untrue, and unnecessarily confusing.
But it is clear that trump is free to say what he wants about the District Attorney.
BumRushDaShow
(129,067 posts)It's concluded with - "The foregoing constitutes the Decision and Order of the Court" since the Judge does oversee "the Court".
And yes, he can (already has in the past and will continue to) attack Bragg.
Think. Again.
(8,166 posts)...I know the origin of the word is from the "King's court", which was comprised of his Courtisans, a group who together assisted him in making dcisions (and other fun activities).
Which is why I think of today's American court as being the entirety of all participants, including the clerks, the defendents, litigators, witnesses, etc. whom, together, inform the "court's" decisions, officiated by the Judge.
And, as a paid employee of that court system, I assumed the Judge to be considered staff (which is a legitimate term for paid employees).
EarthFirst
(2,900 posts)time to boil the noodles.
Richard D
(8,754 posts).. There may be a sternly worded response.
IbogaProject
(2,816 posts)Tsf thinks he can win by insulting the judge and tge judge's family. This is a criminal case. Yes the level to convict is beyond a doubt, but if and when Tsf is convicted anything can be taken into account for sentencing.
Talitha
(6,593 posts)He wants his demented deplorables to riot in the street while he throws a pity-party for himself. Damn, do the world a favor and croak already!
Botany
(70,515 posts)birdographer
(1,330 posts)so that when he ruled particularly harshly, everyone would say "Well of course, did you see what that goob said about him??"
Is Donnie at all aware of what a really bad idea it is to piss off a judge? Apparently not.
Evolve Dammit
(16,736 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,010 posts)Bad mouthing a public official is one thing. Going after a private citizen is just being a punk ass.