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BumRushDaShow

(129,143 posts)
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 05:21 PM Mar 29

Marianne Williamson, still in Democratic presidential bid, says campaign isn't about winning

Source: ABC News

March 29, 2024, 4:36 PM


Marianne Williamson, the author and spiritualist who has been one of President Joe Biden's few primary challengers in the 2024 presidential race, suspended and unsuspended her campaign last month -- and now that she's back in the race, she told ABC News that her focus is not on taking down Biden, but on bringing progressive ideas and discussions about them to the campaign trail.

Williamson suspended her campaign on Feb. 7 following a string of significant primary losses in early states. She said she didn't have the resources to continue -- however, she wasn't yet ready to abandon her candidacy.

"I suspended because I had done very poorly on the electoral level in the first three primary states. So if you just look at this in terms of the horse race, it was time to get out," Williamson said in an interview with ABC News on March 18 -- one day before a round of primaries that delivered a blow to her campaign. She was on the ballot in three states, earning an average of 3.6%.

She said she made the decision to restart her campaign ahead of Michigan's contest -- even traveling there to hold events ahead of the primary -- but didn't want to split votes between herself and the state's growing coalition of Democrats who disapproved of the Biden administration's handling of the Israel-Hamas war and were therefore voting for an "uncommitted" option. "I was afraid that if I got in right then that it would look like I was challenging something," Williamson said. "The morning after the Michigan primary, I got back in. Realizing the obvious limitations [to my candidacy] but also realizing that there's a larger purpose here than trying to compete in the horse race."

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/marianne-williamson-democratic-presidential-bid-campaign-isnt-winning/story?id=108316131



Full headline: Marianne Williamson, still in Democratic presidential bid, says campaign isn't about winning: 'There's more than the horse race'

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Marianne Williamson, still in Democratic presidential bid, says campaign isn't about winning (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 29 OP
I like her - but she should return to love peppertree Mar 29 #1
Really? She has lost all respect from me (actually some time ago) and I cannot "like" those who not only hlthe2b Mar 29 #2
I dont know who the hell she is to be honest but I honesly doubt shes put the country at risk by cstanleytech Mar 30 #40
Honestly, cstanleytech--I don't believe you doubt her or any other's ability to put the country at risk hlthe2b Mar 30 #41
Am I misreading it or are you calling me a liar? cstanleytech Mar 30 #53
Heavens, cstanley... I am certainly not. We've both been around for years. What gives? hlthe2b Mar 30 #54
Just checking as I've been awake for almost 2 days as my shoulder is hurting like hell. cstanleytech Mar 30 #56
Sorry to hear... hlthe2b Mar 30 #59
My Endo wants me to try and not take any NSAIDs because it can damage my kidneys. cstanleytech Mar 30 #64
What is there to love about that loon? NoRethugFriends Mar 29 #11
I said like, not love. And of course, that she should withdraw and endorse Biden. peppertree Mar 29 #12
Nothing to like, much less love NoRethugFriends Mar 29 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Mar 29 #18
She's opposed to antidepressants? ShazzieB Mar 29 #19
She's afrigging know-it-all NoRethugFriends Mar 29 #20
article about it - cab67 Mar 30 #39
Thanks for this! ShazzieB Mar 30 #66
Obviously, she doesn't have a clue SouthernDem4ever Mar 30 #70
fuck that woman. She's a nutball. Certified. ZonkerHarris Mar 29 #16
I like her too. But with a big caveat. Politicub Mar 30 #34
Well said. Thank you. peppertree Mar 30 #52
Thought she Rebl2 Mar 29 #3
I thought so too BumRushDaShow Mar 29 #4
I read awhile ago in a primary. Duncanpup Mar 29 #8
I figured she would have still been on some ballots BumRushDaShow Mar 29 #9
She must be a stable genius..... AZ8theist Mar 29 #17
She could be putting effort into trying to get Biden re-elected. Instead she's pulling this ego-driven shit. 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 29 #5
ZERO Government experience Owens Mar 29 #6
And absolutley zero government understanding. LiberalFighter Mar 30 #61
She's so open-minded, her brains fell out DinahMoeHum Mar 29 #7
For instance there's book sales, and speaking honoraria, and "suggested donations" RockRaven Mar 29 #10
Oh go away, you loopy lunatic NanaCat Mar 29 #14
Like RDK Jr, hers is a vanity project. Hassler Mar 29 #15
It's not about her winning but it is about Trump winning. CousinIT Mar 29 #21
No but in reality it is about taking votes away and PlutosHeart Mar 29 #22
"even traveling there to hold events" brooklynite Mar 29 #23
HAHAHA! DemocraticPatriot Mar 30 #36
"campaign isn't about winning". Hmm-m. Self aggrandizement then? mpcamb Mar 29 #24
Who's funding her campaign? Reminds me of when Roger Stone managed Al Sharpton' 2004 primary campaign. Marcuse Mar 29 #25
I just posted the same theme about a half hour later than yours wolfie001 Mar 29 #28
! Marcuse Mar 29 #29
It's called losing. RandySF Mar 29 #26
Maybe a well-heeled RW benefactor is quietly giving her ($) some inspiration wolfie001 Mar 29 #27
triggering discussion on the campaign trail to include topics such as universal healthcare, youth hunger or free tuition LudwigPastorius Mar 30 #30
Why is this LBN? Tom of Temecula Mar 30 #31
She is a Democratic candidate for President? BumRushDaShow Mar 30 #32
Seems kinda irrelevant to me Tom of Temecula Mar 30 #42
Well maybe because you are new? BumRushDaShow Mar 30 #49
Must be Tom of Temecula Mar 30 #71
That's just code-talk for a spoiler's desire to sabotage and kneecap the Democratic nominee. Oopsie Daisy Mar 30 #33
I don't think she's that significant Bucky Mar 30 #47
The why not just bring those ideas & discussions to the BIDEN campaign?? oldsoftie Mar 30 #35
Looks like she's trying to step into Joe Lieberman's cast off wingtips. GoneOffShore Mar 30 #37
Oprah has a record of inflicting the public with nuts. nt Gore1FL Mar 30 #38
Agreed lonely bird Mar 30 #43
Same here. Dulcinea Mar 30 #50
Gore1FL Upthevibe Mar 30 #44
You might want to read Kurt Andersen's 2018 piece on the Oprah. GoneOffShore Mar 30 #57
She is a nut case, same as RFK jr and Cornell West. They all know the only thing they will do is act as spoilers, and JohnSJ Mar 30 #45
She's like that kitten in the Hang In There poster Bucky Mar 30 #46
I understand that she wants to champion issues she beleives in, patphil Mar 30 #48
I doubt that Joe need be alarmed about the possibility of her winning the nomination. Ping Tung Mar 30 #51
She's grifting. BumRushDaShow Mar 30 #55
If she should win the momination, I'd vote for her. Ping Tung Mar 30 #58
Too much thallium? LiberalFighter Mar 30 #60
She wants to be another Jill Stein... karin_sj Mar 30 #62
Wow so much hatred and vitriol against a Democrat LiberalLovinLug Mar 30 #63
She didn't have the resources to continue.... SergeStorms Mar 30 #65
Good grief. Marianne W. reeks of self-righteousness and purity at this point in her career Hekate Mar 30 #67
... it's about getting her pony. wyldwolf Mar 30 #68
This is what all the grifters say. Nixie Mar 30 #69

peppertree

(21,639 posts)
1. I like her - but she should return to love
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 05:26 PM
Mar 29

And leave this fight to President Biden.

Having someone in the White House who sees eye to eye with you on 2 out of 3 things - is always better than some orange Idi Amin who would probably have her jailed if he could (or worse).

hlthe2b

(102,300 posts)
2. Really? She has lost all respect from me (actually some time ago) and I cannot "like" those who not only
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 05:29 PM
Mar 29

put this country at risk from their own arrogance, ego, and actions or who provide zero reason to respect them.

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
40. I dont know who the hell she is to be honest but I honesly doubt shes put the country at risk by
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 08:42 AM
Mar 30

wasting her time doing then vs actually do something that will mean something.

hlthe2b

(102,300 posts)
41. Honestly, cstanleytech--I don't believe you doubt her or any other's ability to put the country at risk
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 09:15 AM
Mar 30

if they unintentionally, but through their actions, harm Biden sufficiently to throw the election to Trump. No. I do not believe you think that.

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
64. My Endo wants me to try and not take any NSAIDs because it can damage my kidneys.
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 03:28 PM
Mar 30

I do have tramadol but I'm very reluctant to take it.
Not because it knocks me out or anything but rather I have enough health problems already and I would rather avoid adding an addiction to a narcotic even one as mild as tramadol.

NoRethugFriends

(2,319 posts)
13. Nothing to like, much less love
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 06:55 PM
Mar 29

Bad temper, treats staff like shit, anti-vax, anti anti-depressants which some people need to survive, crap during AIDS crisis.
Money grubbing self-help phony.

Response to NoRethugFriends (Reply #13)

ShazzieB

(16,428 posts)
19. She's opposed to antidepressants?
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 08:08 PM
Mar 29

That does it. I never did like her, but I now officially can't stand her!

I'm one of those people who need those drugs to survive. She'll have to pry mine out of my cold dead hands someday if she wants to take them away from me!

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
34. I like her too. But with a big caveat.
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 07:29 AM
Mar 30

And I support most of her ideas.

I don’t want her muddying the waters when the focus should be electing Biden. That’s a huge turn off. There is so much at stake in November already without her attention-getting behavior.

No one is paying attention to her, except people who watch broadcast news all day.

On edit: if she’s anti-vax, I’m questioning my like.

peppertree

(21,639 posts)
52. Well said. Thank you.
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 12:14 PM
Mar 30

We shouldn't get carried away with these things. She's a good Democrat and progressive - and one doesn't have to agree with every last thing she says, to acknowledge that.

That said, I do wish she'd withdraw and endorse the president - who represents out best hope right now, especially given the Needy Amin alternative.

Duncanpup

(12,863 posts)
8. I read awhile ago in a primary.
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 05:55 PM
Mar 29

After she dropped out she was still on ballot and she received 3% of votes.

So she decided to get back in race.

BumRushDaShow

(129,143 posts)
9. I figured she would have still been on some ballots
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 06:02 PM
Mar 29

especially with Super Tuesday being a week after the Michigan primary.

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,017 posts)
5. She could be putting effort into trying to get Biden re-elected. Instead she's pulling this ego-driven shit.
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 05:38 PM
Mar 29

I absolutely despise her.

Owens

(199 posts)
6. ZERO Government experience
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 05:47 PM
Mar 29

I wouldn't even hire her as a receptionist in my office. She has no work skills or experience.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
10. For instance there's book sales, and speaking honoraria, and "suggested donations"
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 06:02 PM
Mar 29

at lectures aka ticket prices, and...

NanaCat

(1,178 posts)
14. Oh go away, you loopy lunatic
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 07:15 PM
Mar 29

And stay away. You're the liberal equivalent of QAnon, and thus too stupid to be in polite company.

CousinIT

(9,247 posts)
21. It's not about her winning but it is about Trump winning.
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 09:00 PM
Mar 29

That will be the net sum of it if she continues this bullshit instead of supporting Biden.

She's not helping anybody here. Well, except TRUMP.

She's bad at logic and too self-serving.

PlutosHeart

(1,281 posts)
22. No but in reality it is about taking votes away and
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 09:01 PM
Mar 29

getting publicity.
Go home girl. Please for the love of the country.

As Leonard Cohen said "So Long Marianne".

wolfie001

(2,252 posts)
28. I just posted the same theme about a half hour later than yours
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 11:01 PM
Mar 29

I just read it and I'll keep mine up because I think this is the reason.

wolfie001

(2,252 posts)
27. Maybe a well-heeled RW benefactor is quietly giving her ($) some inspiration
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 10:58 PM
Mar 29

Wouldn't be the first jaw-dropping thing I've seen in American politics.

LudwigPastorius

(9,156 posts)
30. triggering discussion on the campaign trail to include topics such as universal healthcare, youth hunger or free tuition
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 12:08 AM
Mar 30

It's like a candidate in 1941 saying, "Hey, let's stop sending Britain and France weapons to defeat Hitler so we can use the money to buy everybody in the U.S. a pony!"

BumRushDaShow

(129,143 posts)
32. She is a Democratic candidate for President?
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 07:00 AM
Mar 30

And DU is a discussion site that supports the Democratic Party (even if some are loons)?

BumRushDaShow

(129,143 posts)
49. Well maybe because you are new?
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 11:35 AM
Mar 30

She's as looney as RFK Jr. but as long as she keeps indicating she is still "running", then like the turncoat Russian asset Tulsi Gabbard when she was a (D), she is still showing up on (D) primary ballots where she qualified.

Oopsie Daisy

(2,641 posts)
33. That's just code-talk for a spoiler's desire to sabotage and kneecap the Democratic nominee.
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 07:27 AM
Mar 30

Yeah, we've heard it all before, Marianne. She's totally on the grift.

lonely bird

(1,687 posts)
43. Agreed
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 10:13 AM
Mar 30

I have not, do not and never will watch her.

I don’t care about her “favorite things list”.

I know that there are people who like her and that is their right. I also know that she has helped some people which is great.

I just do not care for her.

As for Williamson? Having “good ideas” is nice. Getting good ideas into policies and legislation is entirely different.

Dulcinea

(6,647 posts)
50. Same here.
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 11:59 AM
Mar 30

I watched her show once back in the day to see what all the hype was about. Some people really loved her & her show, but it left me cold. My impression was that Oprah is all about Oprah.

Upthevibe

(8,053 posts)
44. Gore1FL
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 10:22 AM
Mar 30

Oprah has done 1000% more good than bad.

I realize she brought us Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz (bad). I know Marianne Williamson had been on her show but she wasn't necessarily introduced to the world via Oprah.

I used to go listen to Marianne with a friend every Monday night in Los Angeles at The Wilshire Ebell Theatre. I was very positively effected by what she had to say. This was back in the time when she wrote a wonderful book, A Return To Love.

I wish she had NEVER gotten involved in politics.

GoneOffShore

(17,340 posts)
57. You might want to read Kurt Andersen's 2018 piece on the Oprah.
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 01:04 PM
Mar 30
Oprah Winfrey Helped Create Our American Fantasyland
Andersen wrote when the Oprah was flirting with running for the presidency.

Here's a little excerpt, but the entire piece is fascinating in a horrible way.

Oprah went on the air nationally in the 1980s, just as non-Christian faith healing and channeling the spirits of the dead and “harmonic convergence” and alternative medicine and all the rest of the New Age movement had scaled up. By the 1990s, there was a big, respectable, glamorous New Age counterestablishment. Marianne Williamson, one of the new superstar New Age preachers, popularized a “channeled” book of spiritual revelation, A Course in Miracles: The author, a Columbia University psychology professor who was anonymous until after her death in the 1980s, had claimed that its 1,333 pages were dictated to her by Jesus. Her basic idea was that physical existence is a collective illusion—”the dream.” Endorsed by Williamson, the book became a gigantic best-seller. Deepak Chopra had been a distinguished endocrinologist before he quit regular medicine in his 30s to become the “physician to the gods” in the Transcendental Meditation organization and in 1989 hung out his own shingle as wise man, author, lecturer, and marketer of dietary supplements.

Out of its various threads, the philosophy now had its basic doctrines in place: Rationalism is mostly wrongheaded, mystical feelings should override scientific understandings, reality is an illusion one can remake to suit oneself. The 1960s countercultural relativism out of which all that flowed originated mainly as a means of fighting the Man, unmasking the oppressive charlatans-in-charge. But now they had become mind-blowing ways to make yourself happy and successful by becoming the charlatan-in-charge of your own little piece of the universe. “It’s not just the interpretation of objective reality that is subjective,” according to Chopra. “Objective reality per se is a concept of reality we have created subjectively.”
...snip
....she is an ecumenical promoter of fantasies. Remember the satanic panic, the mass hysteria during the 1980s and early ’90s about satanists abusing and murdering children that resulted in the wrongful convictions of dozens of people who collectively spent hundreds of years incarcerated? Multiple Oprah episodes featured the celebrity “victims” who got that fantasy going. When a Christian questioner in her audience once described her as New Age, Winfrey was pissed. “I am not ‘New Age’ anything,” she said, “and I resent being called that. I don’t see spirits in the trees, and I don’t sit in the room with crystals.” Maybe not those two things specifically; she’s the respectable promoter of New Age belief and practice and nostrums, a member of the elite and friend to presidents, five of whom have appeared on her shows. New Age, Oprah-style, shares with American Christianities their special mixtures of superstition, selfishness, and a refusal to believe in the random. “Nothing about my life is lucky,” she has said. “Nothing. A lot of grace. A lot of blessings. A lot of divine order. But I don’t believe in luck.”


JohnSJ

(92,250 posts)
45. She is a nut case, same as RFK jr and Cornell West. They all know the only thing they will do is act as spoilers, and
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 10:27 AM
Mar 30

possibly help trump into the WH again, and for that reason alone they are DEPLORABLE


patphil

(6,185 posts)
48. I understand that she wants to champion issues she beleives in,
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 10:59 AM
Mar 30

but I don't want to see her on the ballot as an independent in November.
Primary season is fine.

Ping Tung

(594 posts)
58. If she should win the momination, I'd vote for her.
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 01:07 PM
Mar 30

Of course, if the Dems nominated a ham sandwich with a D tattooed on the bread I'd still vote for it.

karin_sj

(810 posts)
62. She wants to be another Jill Stein...
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 02:04 PM
Mar 30

... and be a spoiler in this election to benefit Trump. But she is just a grifter who wants to take away votes from Joe Biden. Why can't we find out who is funding her?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
63. Wow so much hatred and vitriol against a Democrat
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 02:14 PM
Mar 30

Half of you in this thread could be reported on ie. the DU rules about ridiculing and smearing Democrats.

I think she was and is fantastic. That is if you actually listen to her, and not the right wing critics. To those who say her ideas are not reasonable. Sorry but you need visionaries, like Bernie Sanders who many think he's wasting his time going on about universal medicare, the 1% etc. But he keeps those talking points alive and one day the USA will have a national healthcare plan.
To those who called her a "loon" please look at her policy proposals and tell me which ones you disagree with or think are loony?
https://marianne2024.com/issues/

She's not running against him so much as using her position as a candidate to publicize and make the public aware of alternative and positive progressive directions for the country. That is healthy in a democracy. She, I'm sure, will be endorsing Biden. Sanders ran against Biden, and his presence pushed issues for progressives to the point that Biden worked with him to come up with one of the most progressive policy platforms ever.

Democrats need to work together, not badmouth each other. As far as I can see she is concentrating on educating and bringing a new perspective, not criticizing Biden. Glass half full. She's not going to pilfer votes. People are so afraid of the progress of ideas, getting them into the lexicon of discussion, its laughable

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
65. She didn't have the resources to continue....
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 03:34 PM
Mar 30

but all of the sudden she does?

Where did those resources come from?

Inquiring minds want to know. 🤨

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