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Omaha Steve

(99,665 posts)
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 12:08 AM Apr 16

The Philippine president says he won't give US access to more local military bases

Source: AP

By AARON FAVILA
Updated 8:03 PM CDT, April 15, 2024

MANILA, Philippines (AP) — The Philippine president said Monday his administration has no plan to give the United States access to more Philippine military bases and stressed that the American military’s presence in several camps and sites so far was sparked by China’s aggressive actions in the disputed South China Sea.

President Ferdinand Marcos Jr., who took office in 2022, allowed American forces and weapons access to four additional Philippine military bases, bringing to nine the number of sites where U.S. troops can rotate indefinitely under a 2014 agreement.

The Biden administration has been strengthening an arc of security alliances in the region to better counter China, a move that dovetails with Philippine efforts to shore up its external defense, especially in the South China Sea.

Marcos’ decision last year alarmed China because two of the new sites were located just across from Taiwan and southern China. Beijing accused the Philippines of providing American forces with staging grounds, which could be used to undermine its security.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/philippines-us-military-china-marcos-a89fc14bdef820b83d4a18adb557b487

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The Philippine president says he won't give US access to more local military bases (Original Post) Omaha Steve Apr 16 OP
There'll never be another Subic Bay Basic LA Apr 16 #1
I miss the place DemMedic Apr 16 #2
Can't imagine being stationed there! Basic LA Apr 16 #4
lol DemMedic Apr 16 #5
It might've been wilder! Basic LA Apr 16 #11
Never went to Subic... brooklynite Apr 16 #3
Angeles City was always a fun trip DemMedic Apr 16 #6
There was a burger joint (wasn't a chain) just inside the gate. brooklynite Apr 16 #8
Clark was close by and it closed, too. Basic LA Apr 16 #7
I was there when the first Marcos was president pecosbob Apr 16 #9
Imelda & Ferdinand had a long run! Basic LA Apr 16 #10
Staging ground? Bullshit. Unless Trump or another Republican gets in office the US won't use those troops. cstanleytech Apr 16 #12
 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
1. There'll never be another Subic Bay
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 12:38 AM
Apr 16

And outside the Shore Patrol gate was the infamous Olongapo City, a wild-west stretch of dirt road with swinging-door bar-rooms, endless brawls that spilled into the street day & night, battalions of working girls, and 45-minute hotels. Enough debauchery there to service every ship's crew in the Pacific Fleet for the entire Vietnam war.
No, I don't think the Philippines wants to go back to those days anymore, and who can blame them.

DemMedic

(156 posts)
2. I miss the place
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 06:03 AM
Apr 16

Lumpia at Vias (?) then down to T's tavern.

I was up at the naval hospital, but got a good amount of field time with the naval gunfire school Marines

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
4. Can't imagine being stationed there!
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 08:17 AM
Apr 16

I just came in now and then on a Tin Can from Yankee Station in the Tonkin Gulf.
It was at your hospital that I got a temporary crown on a back tooth broken by a flying bottle of San Miguel in a bar fight that I may or may not have initiated.
I can't remember those specific establishments, but I think one was a legimate steak house where we'd fortify ourselves before hitting the drunken chaos of Olongapo.
To this day, I still don't know how those girls knew if you were a "butterfly" (cheated on them with another girl) or not.
Anyway, staggering back to the ship, "monkey meat" on a skewer from a street vendor always hit the spot.

DemMedic

(156 posts)
5. lol
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 08:20 AM
Apr 16

Yes, that bbq was always good!

That was my very first duty station (1987) and I'm pretty sure it was just as wild as when you were there.

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
11. It might've been wilder!
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 11:39 AM
Apr 16

Thanks for the sea-story memories, & watch those flying bottles of San Miguel !

DemMedic

(156 posts)
6. Angeles City was always a fun trip
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 08:22 AM
Apr 16

I forget if the Air Force had a McDonalds or a BK on base, but I do recall that we would eat there.

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
7. Clark was close by and it closed, too.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 08:23 AM
Apr 16

Heard it was pretty wild up there, also. What memories, uh? Can't even begin to explain those days, my friend. You just had to be there at that time in history.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
9. I was there when the first Marcos was president
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 09:47 AM
Apr 16

and Imelda was still bankrupting the nation to build her shoe collection.

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
10. Imelda & Ferdinand had a long run!
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 11:36 AM
Apr 16

They started in 65, and I was there in 67. They had big personalities to match the big corruption. She was quite a character and is still alive at 94!

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
12. Staging ground? Bullshit. Unless Trump or another Republican gets in office the US won't use those troops.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 12:54 PM
Apr 16

At least not to initiate an attack. Aid Taiwan if it's attacked by China? Maybe but otherwise those troops mean nothing and as for the Taiwan military being a threat like China claims it is? More bullshit.

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