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(145,374 posts) Wed Apr 17, 2024, 03:53 PM Apr 17

Senate kills first of two articles of impeachment against Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas

Source: CNN

The Senate killed the first article of impeachment against Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas on Wednesday as the historic trial of the Cabinet secretary got underway.

The article of impeachment killed by the Senate was for “willful and systemic refusal to comply with the law.” Mayorkas still faces a second article for “breach of public trust.”

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer opened the proceedings by offering a time agreement to Republicans that would have allowed a certain amount of floor debate and votes on trial resolutions and points of order before an eventual vote to dismiss the case.

Republican Sen. Eric Schmitt of Missouri objected, saying he would not agree to a proposal that would conclude with an “unprecedented” step in US history of dismissing an impeachment case without a trial. Many Republicans wanted an agreement because it would have allowed them to make speeches on the floor about why they think a full trial should take place and other points. Without it, they will not be allowed to speak on the floor – unless they get unanimous consent – except in the form of points of order that would be read allowed by the presiding officer.

Schumer then made a motion to table or kill the first impeachment article because “it does not allege conduct that rises to the level of a high crime or misdemeanor” as required in the Constitution. After several rounds of procedural votes, the Senate passed that motion 51 to 48 with one voting present, killing the first article of impeachment.

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Senate kills first of two articles of impeachment against Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Apr 17 OP

GOP complaint is proof this is just campaign stunt Attilatheblond Apr 17 #1

The GQP.................................... Lovie777 Apr 17 #2

REPUKES being Repukes.... democratsruletheday Apr 17 #3

Have been watching and they are actually now voting to kill the 2nd Article. BumRushDaShow Apr 17 #4

Oh thank God. mahina Apr 17 #8

Had to sit throuogh like 10 of the GOP's whiny motions BumRushDaShow Apr 17 #11

mahalo nui! mahina Apr 17 #15

Just killed Article #2 and now voting to kill the whole thing BumRushDaShow Apr 17 #5

Motion to adjourn the trial and done BumRushDaShow Apr 17 #6

Woohoo - both fake artucles on impeachment killed. Go get to work on something pertinent @GOP. n/t iluvtennis Apr 17 #7

This silly impeachment is now over and done LetMyPeopleVote Apr 17 #9

butt lick right wingers Maxheader Apr 17 #14

The Lincoln Project makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Apr 17 #10

the rs couldnt impeach biden, so they tried someone lesser and stil failed, wha wha wha whaaaaa. AllaN01Bear Apr 17 #12

I knew that he'd never be convicted and removed, but * Oopsie Daisy Apr 17 #13

The impeachment clause of the Constitution is basically ended. I blame the Repkes who first misued the clause keopeli Apr 17 #16

"...future 'show trials' WILL be held when the opposing party controls the senate..." markodochartaigh Apr 18 #17

Attilatheblond

(2,191 posts)

1. GOP complaint is proof this is just campaign stunt

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Wed Apr 17, 2024, 03:56 PM

Apr 17

Lovie777

(12,299 posts)

2. The GQP....................................

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Wed Apr 17, 2024, 04:02 PM

Apr 17

what are they good for................................

absolutely nothing.

democratsruletheday

(504 posts)

3. REPUKES being Repukes....

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Wed Apr 17, 2024, 04:09 PM

Apr 17

it's what they do, it's who they are. Even McConell said a week ago this was going nowhere. Fuckin' clowns.

BumRushDaShow

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4. Have been watching and they are actually now voting to kill the 2nd Article.

Reply to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 04:10 PM

Apr 17

Hopefully they are almost done.

mahina

(17,680 posts)

8. Oh thank God.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 05:05 PM

Apr 17

Mahalo.

BumRushDaShow

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11. Had to sit throuogh like 10 of the GOP's whiny motions

Reply to mahina (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 05:53 PM

Apr 17

including to -

-adjourn the trial until the end of the month
-adjourn the trial until the first week of May
-adjourn the trial until November 6
-go into a closed door session to discuss (a pile of these)
-go into Executive session
-to table each of Schumer's 2 motions to declare the Articles "unconstitutional"

But what was notable was that I think for the 2nd Article, Murkowski voted "present" rather than vote for/against it being "unconstitutional" (missed if she did that for the 1st Article).

mahina

(17,680 posts)

15. mahalo nui!

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 08:07 PM

Apr 17

They are consistent at least. I thought they must have the votes because they moved it along. Thanks to Murkowski too!

BumRushDaShow

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5. Just killed Article #2 and now voting to kill the whole thing

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Wed Apr 17, 2024, 04:17 PM

Apr 17

BumRushDaShow

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6. Motion to adjourn the trial and done

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Wed Apr 17, 2024, 04:35 PM

Apr 17

iluvtennis

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7. Woohoo - both fake artucles on impeachment killed. Go get to work on something pertinent @GOP. n/t

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Wed Apr 17, 2024, 05:01 PM

Apr 17

LetMyPeopleVote

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9. This silly impeachment is now over and done

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Wed Apr 17, 2024, 05:37 PM

Apr 17

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Maxheader

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14. butt lick right wingers

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Wed Apr 17, 2024, 07:20 PM

Apr 17

try to do unto the liberals like they feel the liberals have done unto them. fuckin hillbilly morons....

LetMyPeopleVote

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10. The Lincoln Project makes me smile

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Wed Apr 17, 2024, 05:40 PM

Apr 17

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AllaN01Bear

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12. the rs couldnt impeach biden, so they tried someone lesser and stil failed, wha wha wha whaaaaa.

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Wed Apr 17, 2024, 06:57 PM

Apr 17

Oopsie Daisy

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13. I knew that he'd never be convicted and removed, but *

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Wed Apr 17, 2024, 06:59 PM

Apr 17

* but I feared that we might not have the votes to quickly extinguish this. I won't name-names, for obvious reasons.

keopeli

(3,524 posts)

16. The impeachment clause of the Constitution is basically ended. I blame the Repkes who first misued the clause

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Wed Apr 17, 2024, 09:41 PM

Apr 17

with Clinton. They politicized impeachment. Today, Democrats buried any future impeachment UNLESS the Senate is held by the party opposing the President. In that case, show trials may now become the norm. While the GQP is fully to blame for this travesty, the Dems have played their partisan part today. They refused to hold a 'show trial', basically ensuring that future 'show trials' WILL be held when the opposing party controls the senate AND that legitimate impeachment proceedings will NOT occur is the Presidents' party is in control of the Senate.

It is a sad day for the Constitution, as Moscow Mitch said, but the blame lies on his and his parties trivializing of the process, not on the Democrats.

God forbid we have another Trump or criminal president whose party runs the Senate because there is NO way to remove the SOB. (Not that there was. The bar for impeachment is so high, it has never actually been reached and probably never will.)

markodochartaigh

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17. "...future 'show trials' WILL be held when the opposing party controls the senate..."

Reply to keopeli (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 18, 2024, 09:39 AM

Apr 18

The Democratic leadership has shown no willingness to engage in these types of baseless, grandstanding show trials which make a kangaroo court of the legislative bodies. Even after the bizarre show trial of Bill Clinton's penis and the incessant pillorying of Hillary, the Democratic party did not go after Republican politicians. I think that there is no reason to assume that there is any kind of equivalence here. Making politics personal is more characteristic of authoritarianism and authoritarianism in the US is, by far, more characteristic of the Republican party and their base.
Also, "the bar for impeachment is so high, it has never actually been reached", Nixon was told that if he didn't resign that there were the votes to impeach him.

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/Decoder/2014/0807/Richard-Nixon-s-resignation-the-day-before-a-moment-of-truth

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