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NFL Chiefs player commits suicide at training facility following another shooting (Original Post) maddogesq Dec 2012 OP
Javon Belcher thelordofhell Dec 2012 #1
Wikipedia has this on his page: Cooley Hurd Dec 2012 #2
Aonther related link. maddogesq Dec 2012 #3
Shot himself in front of the coaching staff underpants Dec 2012 #13
. patrice Dec 2012 #4
I am always at a loss to understand these things sdfernando Dec 2012 #5
It tragic... iandhr Dec 2012 #6
They're usually abusive assholes prior to this. alarimer Dec 2012 #9
An average of three women per day in America die at the hands of a mate (either a spouse or coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #32
Facebook pics of Belcher, his girlfriend and new baby Baclava Dec 2012 #7
So he made his kid an orphan. alarimer Dec 2012 #10
yep nt. naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #26
Not correct. He was in desperate need of help, but knew not how to get it. AAO Dec 2012 #29
Comments on the CNN story are despicable 1gobluedem Dec 2012 #8
Anonymity brings out the worst in some people AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #23
THIS is misogyny. kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #11
Very much so... Cooley Hurd Dec 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author unreadierLizard Dec 2012 #14
That's a fucking lie. tabasco Dec 2012 #21
Agreed. "Unintentional injury" is listed as the 3rd leading cause of death for women. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #22
Actually, unintentional injury is number 6 tabasco Dec 2012 #33
My bet... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #15
You know we don't hear about steroid abuse in the NFL as much. Initech Dec 2012 #16
Of course it is a problem... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #18
Alternatively, what is the result of all the concussions over the years? hedgehog Dec 2012 #20
My first thought was to his history with concussions. Bozita Dec 2012 #28
Very true. nt awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #36
I think repeated head injuries JonLP24 Dec 2012 #24
Or frontal lobe damage as a result of traumatic brain injury Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #27
Yes, that is a good bet, too. nt awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #38
Tragedy elbloggoZY27 Dec 2012 #17
So right, and I can't believe they are playing a game tomorrow. AAO Dec 2012 #30
"committed suicide in front of his coach and general manager" SpartanDem Dec 2012 #19
He is NOT a victim alarimer Dec 2012 #25
I take it you're not a psychiatrist or psychologist. AAO Dec 2012 #31
It's not necessary to be a chicken to identify a rotten egg... pop topcan Dec 2012 #35
Welcome to DU! Hayabusa Dec 2012 #37
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Dec 2012 #39
Such a sad story Marrah_G Dec 2012 #34
 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
2. Wikipedia has this on his page:
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 01:05 PM
Dec 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovan_Belcher

Death

On the morning of December 1, 2012, Belcher reportedly fatally shot his girlfriend before driving to Arrowhead Stadium, where he shot himself to death.

sdfernando

(4,941 posts)
5. I am always at a loss to understand these things
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 01:16 PM
Dec 2012

I will never understand what drives people to kill a loved one, and to kill themselves. So sad to see this happen anywhere. I mean you have this and almost the same type of incident in, what was it Wyoming??. I just don't understand.

Oh, and the comments on that article, I can't believe how racist some of them are.

Well, I hope all these people rest in peace.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
9. They're usually abusive assholes prior to this.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:11 PM
Dec 2012

People need to be aware of this and dump these assholes before they kill, which happens far too frequently.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
32. An average of three women per day in America die at the hands of a mate (either a spouse or
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:18 PM
Dec 2012

SO). It only becomes news when it's a pro football player, I guess. But doesn't make it any less tragic, nor any less outrageous, for the non-famous.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
7. Facebook pics of Belcher, his girlfriend and new baby
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 01:35 PM
Dec 2012


Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher this morning shot and killed his girlfriend before going to Arrowhead Stadium and fatally shooting himself as team personnel tried to stop him, police said.

Police Capt. David Lindaman said Belcher, 25, and his girlfriend, 22, got into an argument around 7 a.m. at their home in the 5400 block of Crysler Avenue in Kansas City. Around 7:50 a.m., Lindaman said, Belcher shot his girlfriend multiple times. She was taken to a hospital, where she was pronounced dead.

Lindaman said Belcher’s mother, who was visiting the couple and their 3-month-old daughter, witnessed the shooting and was being interviewed by police.

Belcher left the scene on Crysler and went to the Chiefs practice facility at Arrowhead, police said.

Police were called to the stadium around 8:10 a.m. When Belcher arrived there he encountered General Manager Scott Pioli, Coach Romeo Crennel and other team personnel.

Police said Chiefs staff attempted to keep Belcher from committing additional acts of violence. When police arrived, they heard a gunshot and found that Belcher had shot himself in the head

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/01/3943246/chiefs-player-kills-girlfriend.html#storylink=cpy

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
10. So he made his kid an orphan.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:12 PM
Dec 2012

I hope he fucking rots in hell, that fucking piece of shit. He got what HE deserved. Too bad he didn't just off himself.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
29. Not correct. He was in desperate need of help, but knew not how to get it.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:50 PM
Dec 2012

There is no hell. He's just dead. Piss on his grave, it makes no difference.

1gobluedem

(6,664 posts)
8. Comments on the CNN story are despicable
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:04 PM
Dec 2012

What is wrong with people? This is a tragedy on multiple levels.

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
11. THIS is misogyny.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:21 PM
Dec 2012

Not some stupid words.

Unbelieveable. When you go to NIH and look at statistics, at least as of 2006...men are the #3 cause of death for women in the US. They're the #1 cause of death for pregnant women.

Response to kurtzapril4 (Reply #11)

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
22. Agreed. "Unintentional injury" is listed as the 3rd leading cause of death for women.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:49 PM
Dec 2012

But that includes everything from auto wrecks to sporting accidents to bad falls. I didn't see any disaggregation of numbers for homicides.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
33. Actually, unintentional injury is number 6
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:32 PM
Dec 2012

in the most recent statistics at the CDC link.

http://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2008/index.htm

Homicide is not listed in the top 10.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
15. My bet...
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:24 PM
Dec 2012

an abusive relationship fueled by 'roid rage. Things got out of hand, he kills his partner, and he realizes his life is over.

Initech

(100,100 posts)
16. You know we don't hear about steroid abuse in the NFL as much.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:00 PM
Dec 2012

I'm wondering if it's a bigger problem then the league would like to admit, and it can lead to things like this.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
18. Of course it is a problem...
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:07 PM
Dec 2012

I mean, just look at the size of some of those guys. The NFL just ignores it.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
20. Alternatively, what is the result of all the concussions over the years?
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:22 PM
Dec 2012

Not to mention, a culture of entitlement for athletes that begins in high school for some.

Bozita

(26,955 posts)
28. My first thought was to his history with concussions.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:03 PM
Dec 2012

IMHO, linebackers give and get 'em a lot more frequently than we are aware.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
24. I think repeated head injuries
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:11 PM
Dec 2012

are far bigger causes for this type of thing than steroids.

Seau kinda went through the same thing, was abusive and later killed himself.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
27. Or frontal lobe damage as a result of traumatic brain injury
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:55 PM
Dec 2012

the effects of repeated concussions in professional football players can cause dramatic personality changes, loss of impulse control, and violent behaviour; there've been other cases of domestic violence and suicide among football players (of course it'd take an autopsy and brain dissection to see if that was the case here).

 

elbloggoZY27

(283 posts)
17. Tragedy
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:00 PM
Dec 2012

My only comment to this news is that I offer my most sincere condolences to all of the Kansas City Chiefs Organization and family, friends and fans of those were lost in such a horrible tragedy.

This is a very dark day for all who enjoy sports or just life in general.

My thoughts and prays are with you all.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
30. So right, and I can't believe they are playing a game tomorrow.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:55 PM
Dec 2012

But knowing the camaraderie on football teams, they will be playing really hard for whatever reason they can muster.

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
19. "committed suicide in front of his coach and general manager"
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:17 PM
Dec 2012

This is one very fucked up story. Between the two victims, a parentless baby and two more who witnessed a suicide

Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher fatally shot his girlfriend Saturday, then drove to Arrowhead Stadium and committed suicide in front of his coach and general manager.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/21217885/chiefs-player-kills-himself-police-reportedly-investigating-two-shootings

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
25. He is NOT a victim
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:25 PM
Dec 2012

He is the perpetrator. I feel no sympathy whatsoever for him. He did what he did, then couldn't face the consequences. He took the easy way out, instead of prison.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
34. Such a sad story
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 08:22 PM
Dec 2012

I hate that some people feel the need to take others along with them when they decide life is not worth living.

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