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BumRushDaShow

(129,642 posts)
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 08:09 AM Apr 26

Boeing and NASA decide to move forward with historic crewed launch of new spacecraft

Source: CNN World

Updated 8:38 PM EDT, Thu April 25, 2024


CNN — After years of delays and a dizzying array of setbacks during test flights, Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft is finally set to make its inaugural crewed launch.

The mission is on track to take off from Florida as soon as May 6, carrying NASA astronauts Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore to the International Space Station, marking what could be a historic and long-awaited victory for the beleaguered Starliner program.

“Design and development is hard — particularly with a human space vehicle,” said Mark Nappi, vice president and Starliner program manager at Boeing, during a Thursday news briefing. “There’s a number of things that were surprises along the way that we had to overcome. … It certainly made the team very, very strong. I’m very proud of how they’ve overcome every single issue that we’ve encountered and gotten us to this point.”

Boeing and NASA officials made the decision Thursday to move forward with the launch attempt in less two weeks. However, Ken Bowersox, associate administrator for NASA’s Space Operations Mission Directorate, noted that May 6 is “not a magical date.”

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/25/world/boeing-starliner-launch-spacex-delays-scn/index.html



This is the supplement (alternate) to SpaceX and Russia for ISS crew and supplies missions. They have been continually delayed but did have a successful launch and dock of their capsule to the ISS in 2022 year - https://www.npr.org/2022/05/21/1100534373/boeing-docks-space-station-iss

Previously-censored update - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143111291
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Boeing and NASA decide to move forward with historic crewed launch of new spacecraft (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 26 OP
Boeing??? Blues Heron Apr 26 #1
They have been involved as a sub-contractor (for components) with NASA BumRushDaShow Apr 26 #2
Yes, let us hope that their CEO, who is one of the greediest of the Wall Street greed-lizards PatrickforB Apr 26 #3
"I am suspicious of the timing here" BumRushDaShow Apr 26 #4
Yep. Two companies were awarded govt contracts for ISS cargo & crew services... CaptainTruth Apr 26 #7
Yeah, because one thing we definitely need is another Apollo 13. Aristus Apr 26 #8
I hope the door doesn't fall off! Wonder Why Apr 26 #5
I hope this is not another Boeing disaster. Martin68 Apr 26 #6

BumRushDaShow

(129,642 posts)
2. They have been involved as a sub-contractor (for components) with NASA
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 08:19 AM
Apr 26

from back to the beginning of the space program and NASA made them a prime contractor for the ISS over 30 years ago - https://www.britannica.com/explore/space/boeing/

Obviously a different division than their commercial jets.

PatrickforB

(14,593 posts)
3. Yes, let us hope that their CEO, who is one of the greediest of the Wall Street greed-lizards
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 09:17 AM
Apr 26

had sense enough not to mess with a manned space vehicle.

The deteriorating quality of Boeing aircraft is because they got a CEO who worries more about shareholder profits and share prices than he does about making good airplanes.

Sadly, and perhaps cynically, I am suspicious of the timing here, because it smacks of a desperation move by Boeing's C-suite, spurred on by pressure from big hedge fund managers to have a 'win' so share prices will go up again, or at least start an upward trend from the valley they are in now.

The relation between the management of these big publicly traded companies and the hedge fund managers on Wall Street tends to make me sick. Dave Calhoun, Boeing's CEO whose net worth is $57 million, and who is stepping down at the end of this year, will 'earn' $32.8 million, a substantial RAISE from last year's $22.6 million. In spite of his utter failure to address the company's mission is to protect, connect and explore our world and beyond. Every day, we are dedicated to carrying out our mission – safely and sustainably.

Gosh, what great value his excessive greed has added to a once great company.

This is why I like Biden's new stress on unionization. And it is starting to work. Not at Boeing though. Truth is that Bernie is right. We do not need billionaires, and having shareholder profits held by legal doctrine as being more important than workers, consumers and the environment. This is a perfect illustration of the cancerousness of this doctrine and what it looks like on the ground (in the air, in Boeing's case).

BumRushDaShow

(129,642 posts)
4. "I am suspicious of the timing here"
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 09:36 AM
Apr 26

They have been at this for some time. I've tried to post updates but they are either ignored or locked.

NASA selected vendors to do these ISS-related missions and the only one that managed to make it that far for crewed missions was SpaceX and its Falcon9/Dragon. Starliner would be another option for getting crew there as we are STILL using Russia's Soyuz vehicles to get some of our crew up and back in between the SpaceX missions.

Blue Origin is working on a replacement station - https://www.businessinsider.com/jeff-bezos-blue-origin-urine-milestone-nasa-contract-orbital-reef-2024-3 and Boeing was supposed to provide similar services for crew/supply transport that SpaceX is doing.

The United States refuses to have completely government civil service-built craft because "Communist", so this is going to have to be it.

CaptainTruth

(6,606 posts)
7. Yep. Two companies were awarded govt contracts for ISS cargo & crew services...
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 12:24 PM
Apr 26

...Boeing & SpaceX. Those contracts were awarded at the same time. The Boeing capsule being used for this launch was used in their first orbital flight test in 2019. They've spent almost 5 years trying to make their system work & they're years behind schedule. Meanwhile, while Boeing has been trying to get their act together, SpaceX has flown 30 ISS cargo missions & 8 crew missions.

Aristus

(66,474 posts)
8. Yeah, because one thing we definitely need is another Apollo 13.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 02:04 PM
Apr 26

A jet liner throwing off parts is one thing. With a spacecraft, it will be quite different.

Someone give the suits at Boeing a T.E.D. talk about a little thing called Quality Assurance. Yes, yes, yes, I know. That costs money. But probably less in the long run than crippling payouts for lawsuits, and the loss of government contracts due to gross incompetence.

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