Syria mixing chemical warfare agents, U.S. official
Source: CNN
Syrian forces began combining chemicals that would be used to make deadly sarin gas for use in weapons to attack rebel and civilian populations, a U.S. official tells CNN.
The United States obtained intelligence over the weekend indicating this development, according to the official who had direct knowledge of the latest information.
The intelligence, the official said, came from multiple sources but declined to provide any more details about how the United states learned of it.
Sarin gas, the source said, could most readily be used to fill artillery shells.
Read more: http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/03/source-syria-preparing-chemical-weapons/?hpt=hp_t3
Looks like the shit is about to hit the fan for real.
The significant change here if this report is true is that they are actually preparing the chemicals for immediate use rather than just moving them around.
Renew Deal
(81,872 posts)Xithras
(16,191 posts)You'll pardon me if my bullshit detector goes off a bit, but the U.S. doesn't have the greatest track record when it comes to these claims. In fact, we have a long and storied history of just making shit up to suit our needs and goals. It will take more than some anonymous leaks repeating unconfirmed intelligence from unnamed sources before I'll believe a word of it.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)is to react upon use of the weapons not react upon decision to use the weapons. Shrubbo and company made up a bunch of bullshit and pretended we had to act now or the evil Iraqi's were going to use the bioweapons they never actually had.
It's not hard to prove that nerve gas has been deployed.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)I just don't want to see another round of unconfirmed reports be spun into a justification for "preemptive strikes".
Mosby
(16,358 posts)Assad has already murdered 40,000 syrians and the "resistance" are islamists who hate our guts. Best thing we could do is just stay the fuck out of it.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)The wholesale use (and I mean USE, not mere posession or threats, and certainly not unconfirmed reports) of weapons of mass destruction, or acts of genocide, against a civilian population are one of the few things that truly does justify international military intervention. I opposed going to war in Iraq, I opposed going to war in Afghanistan, I opposed bombing Libya, and until now I have opposed AND WILL CONTINUE TO OPPOSE intervening in Syria.
That changes if Assad starts firing nerve gas at population centers. At that point, greater humanitarian interests have to overrule my anti-war instincts.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)For all we would know it was them doing it with stuff looted from a base they took over.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)If the rebels had overrun a base with chemical weapons, you can bet that Assad would have screamed bloody murder about it, and the it would have been in every global headline within hours. Assad has claimed, since day one, that the rebels are actually al Qaeda linked terrorists. If he had the opportunity to also claim that they were terrorists with chemical weapons, there is NO WAY he would avoid doing so.
In all honesty, I'm a bit suprised that Assad hasn't tried that already. If he deliberately allowed the rebels to overrun a base with a small amount of chemical weapons, announced it to the world, and then set off a false-flag in one of his own cities a few days later, global support for the rebellion would cool quickly.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)and you said it very well.
Dokkie
(1,688 posts)I don't buy it
UnseenUndergrad
(249 posts)Didn't that actually happen?
Dokkie
(1,688 posts)The rebel threat is still high and you think just viagra will be enough to get me to rape other people. Its was western propaganda to demonize Gaddafi.
Ofc there have been instances where armies raped women in the hundreds or thousands like in Rwanda and WWII Germany, but those usually come after victory not in the middle of it.
RVN VET
(492 posts)All NATO, as well as Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Israel would have reason to destroy Assad and his government completely.
I cannot imagine what rationale would drive even a dictator like Assad to such a blatantly cruel, vicious and internationally despised action. But we'll see what happens.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)Sounds like the work of a ruthless killer.
Mosby
(16,358 posts)Obama and the Democrats are war criminals, guilty of collective punishment, murder and genocide.
That's what you are alluding to right?
But you're too chicken shit to say it.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Please see, Syria Boxed into a Use-'Em-or-Lose-'Em WMD Dilemma Holding a Deadman Trigger , http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021920320
Has nothing to do with rebels. It's Syria's version of a strategic deterrent.
David__77
(23,511 posts)No thanks to more war.
Dead syrians are not our problem.
We can't police the world anymore.
The third world is on its own.
David__77
(23,511 posts)And that is to stop sending materiel to the insurgents. That is undermining peace.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)You can't release yet another WMD story without any solid attribution.
"The intelligence, the official said, came from multiple sources but declined to provide any more details about how the United states learned of it".
We won't get fooled again, and the release of this fearmongering bullshit is reprehensible.
List some sources!
BeHereNow
(17,162 posts)I seriously think they sit around and think up these threats,
try to convince us, WITH OUT any real evidence, so they can
bomb the crap out of yet another civilian population.
I don't buy a word of anything that comes from an anonymous US Official.
Who the fuck ARE these officials and why are they never named?
BHN
yurbud
(39,405 posts)I thought that's what would happen when I voted for Obama and we just turned it down to medium instead of high.