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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:27 PM Dec 2012

HSBC 'to pay $1.9bn' in US money laundering settlement

Source: BBC News

HSBC is to pay US authorities $1.9bn (£1.2bn) in a settlement over a money-laundering probe, say reports, the largest ever in such a case.

The UK-based bank was alleged to have helped launder money belonging to drug cartels and states under US sanctions.

Earlier this year HSBC admitted having poor money laundering controls following a US Senate investigation.

Last month announced it had set aside $1.5bn to cover the costs of any settlement or fines.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20673466

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HSBC 'to pay $1.9bn' in US money laundering settlement (Original Post) dipsydoodle Dec 2012 OP
let us see some jail time Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #1
sorry, that only happens when you steal a candy bar in a liquor store lol nt msongs Dec 2012 #3
That should be part of the "fiscal cliff" negotiations. Trillo Dec 2012 #8
Are you suggesting we put the "job creators" in jail ? russspeakeasy Dec 2012 #6
Is the Fine To Be Paid with Laundered, Steamed, or Dry Cleaned Money? triplepoint Dec 2012 #2
They ''made'' $22 billion last year. Octafish Dec 2012 #11
last paragraph Enrique Dec 2012 #4
Well, That Punishes The Stockholders DallasNE Dec 2012 #5
Ouch. davidwparker Dec 2012 #7
I was trying to open cosmicone Dec 2012 #9
Gosh. You'd think they'd have tried to, you know, convene a grand jury. Bag some of the crooks. Octafish Dec 2012 #10
Kick (nt) muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #12

russspeakeasy

(6,539 posts)
6. Are you suggesting we put the "job creators" in jail ?
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 10:16 PM
Dec 2012

Never happen. The U.S. has set the low standard for non-punishable crime.

 

triplepoint

(431 posts)
2. Is the Fine To Be Paid with Laundered, Steamed, or Dry Cleaned Money?
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:54 PM
Dec 2012

Last edited Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:45 AM - Edit history (8)

...or the payback for money laundering services rendered? It wouldn't surprise me in the least....no matter how much money they allegedly earned in whatever way, shape, or form they earned it. Nobody goes to jail, and everyone is well-paid. How can I get that gig? Wowzer!

Money talks...and truly appears to make the World go around.....In for a penny, in for a pound! Laundering USD$15B in "bulk cash transfers," netting USD$50B+ in the first half of this year, and ONLY paying a USD$1.9B fine, and nobody goes to prison. Not bad...Sure looks like crime pays to me...IN BIG BUCKAZOID RETURNS! Take the money and R-U-N there HSBC!
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Our politicians are little more than money launderers in the trafficking of power and policy -- fewer than six degrees of separation from the spirit and tactics of Tony Soprano.
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This looks and sounds like BCCI or the Nugan Hand Bank...It's déjà vu all over again.
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Nugan Hand Bank
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nugan_Hand_Bank

BCCI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Credit_and_Commerce_International

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
4. last paragraph
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 09:44 PM
Dec 2012
It is unclear what impact the case will have on HSBC's business. The bank is the biggest in Europe by market capitalisation, and made pre-tax profits of $12.7bn for the first six months of 2012.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
5. Well, That Punishes The Stockholders
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 10:05 PM
Dec 2012

Which I have no objection to but what about a little jail time for the executives involved as this offers no deterrent.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
9. I was trying to open
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 02:52 PM
Dec 2012

a corporate account in HSBC-London and it was a pain. They wanted every director's and signatory's passport, utility bills, proof of source of funds (even though the funds were coming from a well-known UK investment fund) and a gazillion other documents, all notarized and apostilled.

All these anti-money laundering laws do is make it difficult for legitimate individuals and businesses to do banking and it doesn't really stop the drug cartels and corrupt government officials.

I wish they would work on the demand side of the drug trade and/or legalize the drug trade so all this money will be earning taxes, save money on cops and banking would be easier.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
10. Gosh. You'd think they'd have tried to, you know, convene a grand jury. Bag some of the crooks.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 09:12 PM
Dec 2012

Close down a drug dealing operation in the USA.

What the heck was I thinking? I'm supposed to look forward and forget about the past.

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