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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 08:51 PM Dec 2012

Boehner pitches millionaire tax hike

Source: Politico

Boehner pitches millionaire tax hike

By JOHN BRESNAHAN, JAKE SHERMAN and CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN | 12/15/12 7:32 PM EST Updated: 12/15/12 7:35 PM EST

Speaker John Boehner has proposed allowing tax rates to rise for the wealthiest Americans if President Barack Obama agrees to major entitlement cuts, according to several sources close to the talks.

It is the first time Boehner has offered any boost in marginal tax rates for any income group, and it would represent a major concession for the Ohio Republican. Boehner suggested hiking the Bush-era tax rates for top wage earners, including those with annual incomes of $1 million or more annually, beginning on Jan. 1, two sources said.

Obama and Boehner spoke by phone Friday after a lengthy face-to-face session at the White House on Thursday. The quickening pace of private conversations between the two key players in the fiscal cliff standoff shows progress is being made in the negotiations, although they are not close to a deal yet, sources said.

Boehner also wants to use a new method of calculating benefits for entitlements programs known as “chained CPI,” which would slow the growth of Medicare and other federal health programs and save hundreds of billions over the next decade.







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Boehner pitches millionaire tax hike (Original Post) kpete Dec 2012 OP
His version of "shared" sacrifice Duer 157099 Dec 2012 #1
+1 freshwest Dec 2012 #18
are entitlement cuts not just another form of tax increase. olddad56 Dec 2012 #25
Consumer Price Index is CHAINED CPI ROBROX Dec 2012 #26
No. Keep trying, Boner. nt Xipe Totec Dec 2012 #2
What is this? An early April Fool's joke? TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #3
What a bunch of ProSense Dec 2012 #4
Fuck Boehner, I'll pay higher income taxes - don't touch my SS or Medicare! xtraxritical Dec 2012 #14
Definitely. Don't fall for that pat on the back - it's got a knife in it. freshwest Dec 2012 #19
Boner can go fuck himself. I have had it with all the bullshit. n/t Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #5
Taxes go up on the wealthy, leave our paid for benefits alone, start a program to employ a jtuck004 Dec 2012 #6
I truly hope POTUS laughed at him & hung up. Myrina Dec 2012 #7
Maybe if Boehner drinks some more of that there whiskey, then who knows what he'll say next. Crowman1979 Dec 2012 #8
If Obama locked Boner in a room without any booze... johnnyplankton Dec 2012 #16
ROFL LeftInTX Dec 2012 #20
Balanced? rgbecker Dec 2012 #9
"Allowing"? The tax breaks were due to expire so there is no "allow" here other than cstanleytech Dec 2012 #10
Exactly, and this was a Republican plan. President Obama should say A Simple Game Dec 2012 #17
Allow? BVictor1 Dec 2012 #11
Just a face saving interim step. Boehner still cant get the Caucus behind him. grantcart Dec 2012 #12
Social Security is a payroll supported benefit - its not an entitlement. Historic NY Dec 2012 #13
Employers hate it because they pay half of it. Fuck em. xtraxritical Dec 2012 #15
How is this BETTER than what is going to happen ANYWAY (that the GOP agreed to, btw)? Volaris Dec 2012 #21
Boehner's pitch is flat. lexw Dec 2012 #22
Hey, Orangey. Not just "no" Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #23
No good, John jmowreader Dec 2012 #24

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
1. His version of "shared" sacrifice
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 08:53 PM
Dec 2012

The millionaires "sacrifice" their table scraps while the poor sacrifice their lives.

Fuck him and all that are like him.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
25. are entitlement cuts not just another form of tax increase.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:54 PM
Dec 2012

they are taking money from those who can least afford it, sort of the opposite of increasing taxes on those who can.

 

ROBROX

(392 posts)
26. Consumer Price Index is CHAINED CPI
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:47 PM
Dec 2012

First, the Consumer Price Index doesn’t account perfectly for changes in product quality. For example, an average computer today might cost about the same as an an average computer cost last year, but today’s computer is better than last year’s computer in a number of ways that the CPI doesn’t account for. Similarly, the invention of new goods poses a challenge to the Consumer Price Index, since incorporating such goods into the basket while maintaining comparability over time can get quite tricky.

Second, the Consumer Price Index assumes that a household purchases the same basket of goods regardless of how the prices of those goods changes. In reality, however, households are probably smarter than this, and they likely substitute away from items that get disproportionately expensive to goods that got comparatively less expensive.

The crazy GOP is using a material standard applied to people who require MINIMUM things to survive which EFFECT peoples lives. I knew these people were crazy and that they NEVER think about what someone tells them to PROMOTE.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
4. What a bunch of
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 08:59 PM
Dec 2012
It is the first time Boehner has offered any boost in marginal tax rates for any income group, and it would represent a major concession for the Ohio Republican. Boehner suggested hiking the Bush-era tax rates for top wage earners, including those with annual incomes of $1 million or more annually, beginning on Jan. 1, two sources said

...RW nonsense. How the hell is $1 million a "major concession"?

<...>

Boehner also wants to use a new method of calculating benefits for entitlements programs known as “chained CPI,” which would slow the growth of Medicare and other federal health programs and save hundreds of billions over the next decade.

The speaker’s offer does not include extending federal unemployment benefits, and it is unclear how it would address sequestration — the tens of billions in spending cuts scheduled to go into effect for the Pentagon and other federal agencies starting Jan. 2.

Sounds like Politico is shilling for Republicans again.



 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
6. Taxes go up on the wealthy, leave our paid for benefits alone, start a program to employ a
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:05 PM
Dec 2012

number of of the 24 million people who say they want or need work with the Operation Twist money and the additional $40 billion a month being used to prop up wealthy, moneyed interests at the expense of the American people. I know, you say it's supposed to trickle. It ain't.

Then we will figure out what else we need and let you know.

Have a Happy Holiday.

johnnyplankton

(352 posts)
16. If Obama locked Boner in a room without any booze...
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:17 AM
Dec 2012

he'd get him to agree to socialized medicine to boot for a bottle. Let's play dirty.

rgbecker

(4,832 posts)
9. Balanced?
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:54 PM
Dec 2012

Chained CPI equals $300 Billion over ten years.

Let income over $250,000 return to 39% rate equals 1 trillion (1000 billion) over ten years.

OK kids...can you find the difference?

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
10. "Allowing"? The tax breaks were due to expire so there is no "allow" here other than
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:00 PM
Dec 2012

in his own mind.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
17. Exactly, and this was a Republican plan. President Obama should say
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:03 AM
Dec 2012

much as I want to, I will do nothing to stop your tax rates from expiring as the law you Republicans wrote states. Then we will discuss how to spend the windfall. Just the opposite of what you guys did the last time, remember?

 

BVictor1

(229 posts)
11. Allow?
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:28 PM
Dec 2012

How's he to allow what's inevitable?

On January 1, the rates for everyone goes up.

Boehner needs to fuck off.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
12. Just a face saving interim step. Boehner still cant get the Caucus behind him.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:39 PM
Dec 2012


We will talk again on Jan 7th when the first paychecks start going up Boehner.


By January 15th we will get a much better deal.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
21. How is this BETTER than what is going to happen ANYWAY (that the GOP agreed to, btw)?
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:19 AM
Dec 2012

oh wait. Its NOT.

The only way Mr. Speaker can save his own ass is to actually GO OVER the curb. At least that way, he can say he's pushing to support a tax CUT for the Middle Class. Anything else, any other deal (wether it passes or not) he owns outright, and his TeaParty Caucus will nail him down to the tree and leave him to the crows.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
24. No good, John
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 07:31 AM
Dec 2012

Millionaires pay flat 15 percent because when you're rich you can request payment in anything you want and, by and large, they ask for forms of payment taxed at 15 percent.

The Koch brothers woild have kittens but raising the capital gains rate to equal the corporate tax rate would eliminate the need to adjust ordinary rates.

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