The average IQ of a republican't congressman (are there any R congresswomen?) is around 80,

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but I can understand my brain blocking the memory of the other two.

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Time to vote IDIOTS like Gohmert out of office. Maybe he can get a job working directly for the NRA. Why should we pay his salary to do their bidding?

on the NRA payroll.

Let them pay his entire salary and kick his crazy ass out of the House.

the idiots in Texas love guys like him.

BTW, that was a slip of the finger on my laptop, so you needn't get nasty about learning how to spell. I'm a retired teacher and librarian.

And I don't mean Parry's joke about it. And an online petition doesn't count, either.

I suspected the 'x' was a mistake, but on DU, where "Texass" is a common insult lobbed randomly at us, we get kind of sensitive about that. So I apologize

fair share of right wing nut jobs/political whores. What people who are not from here do not understand is that there are also a lot of us here who don't follow Republican dogma and fight against it. Gohmert is a politician from a rich, mostly white District. Talk to people is Shelia Jackson Lee's District and you would find a different answer. I have our states flag as my Avatar so people can see that we have Progressives everywhere. Please, attack the man, not the state!

Unless I'm remembering wrong. I know the gerrymandered re-districting took my favorite state rep away from me, though, Scott Hochberg.

we want our kids to grow up with...

another human being. He's saying she should be a murderer also to make things right. My mind is officially boggled.
Maybe, just maybe, he should consider committing himself. He's long overdue.
Different rules and laws might be a better solution Gohmert.

is not easy to kill another human being, even if threatened. Unless she was ex military(combat arms) it would have been difficult. Not saying she couldn't or wouldn't, just that it ain't like the movies.

...and that ONE was on a fucking military installation in his own fucking state:

that even on a military base everyone does not routinely carry weapons (either inside or outside the buildings). It's impractical for everyone to be in a state of armed readiness at all times.

most people on that base are not allowed to carry firearms, loaded. Only MP's and certain specific duties. In peacetime at home, the greatest danger is negligent discharges, and the military is positively zealous in limiting those.

If the military has gun control, why shouldn't it apply to civilians as well?

I.e.: Everyone on base should be carrying.

Those so called Commandments were meant as a way to opress those who don't believe in their God...

to call out those among them that fail to keep their promises.

Just like "good cops" who cover for the bad ones- it makes them BAD cops by default.

That description of defensive wounds without regard for the pain it might cause the families and the fantasy of the principal, not killing him but blowing his head off, sounds way too violence porn for an elected official. It's creepy in the extreme. The last person who should be in this position!

that's why he loves his guns.

about the wounds in this incident! I know as a pathologist that unless he was there at the scene or during the autopsies OR has direct links to the ME office or the investigators, he's extrapolating from what he may have seen elsewhere or imagined in his screwed mind.

The investigators and pathologists in this case have been very circumspect about such details which is appropriate. So this idiot congress-critter is being graphically dramatic to stir emotions (fear) to his backward way of thinking. It's akin to the anti-abortion protesters who picket with images of bloody fetuses... Ever wonder where they get such images?!

a Glock just wouldn't do in this case.

Quick thinking douchebag.

Beltway sniper attacks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beltway_sniper_attacks

Actually it would probably just mean the shooter gains an additional rifle. That is if the principal was able to get to and unlock wherever it is that the gun is kept......

I think he really believes what he's saying!

Because it's easy to unlock your safe, get your weapon and shoot a moving target....all in seconds....just like in the movies.

the repuke congress morons start with their hyperbole and ridiculous rhetoric before the victims are even in the ground.

message to all repukes = stay classy.

teachers, for not being armed?

... But rather America's fault for not allowing her or someone responsible to be armed.

Just look at him...his face just screams IDIOT like a flashing lighted sign.

Maybe we should just put explosive collars on all the children just in case one of Gohmerts fellow travelers invades the school.

There's a petition on the White House petition site right now calling for the placement of military-trained and equipped commandos at every school.

I stopped in one of the hole-in-the-wall places outside the Navy base to have a beer. A young woman came up to me to ask if I needed company. I told her I had a girlfriend. She asked which bar my girlfriend worked in. I told her my girlfriend did not work in a bar. She came back with "Oh, she's a streetwalker then!"

These gun nuts seem to be in the same sort of thought warp.

So now it's the principal's fault because she wasn't Rambette? I gotta find a way to get out of this screwed-up country.

They are knuckle dragger's and we need to point that out loudly.

residents of East Texas-- get rid of this joker. Please!

Maybe on the other side of the entrance hallway is the library, or art room. While she'e blasting away at the shooter, who is blasting back, she is also spraying rounds into the art room, killing more kids. Does any sane person think this is any solution.

Not sure ol' Louie qualifies for that adjective.

Just sayin'.

after all, gun violence happens there too.

the more the merrier douchebag

yup

Well I........ (sarcasm)

no Holy Second Amendment allowed

yup

He's amazing. Each thing he says is somehow dumber than the last stupid statement he made.And yet, he keeps getting re-elected.

that gun, loaded it, and had gone stomping down the hall to shoot the bad guy, it was all over.

Even if the teacher had a gun in an unlocked drawer, s/he'd have been the first one he shot and would never have had time to grab it, aim and shoot.

GOMER, these things happen too fast for your wild west mentality to cope with.


GOMER: acronym for Get Outta My Emergency Room, usually applied to nursing home dumps of patients who are demented, incontinent, combative, and not particularly ill.

It's ridiculous to believe an armed principal could have stopped this tragedy. Like someone said above, there's no way we can all be walking around armed and ready to draw at any moment. That would be insane. It really would be like the wild west. And we all know how safe the wild west was.

So louie, what happens if she misses with that M4 and hits children instead? Collateral Damage? Totally insane comment made by a moron who supposedly is a Congressman.

WTF kinda dipshit backwoods DUH kinda answer is that.....what a prick!!!

That's what Gohmert wanted.......more dead kids..........fuck him

All these sick bastards with a hero complex.

This is the same mindset they have on Benghazi. More guns into a situation in chaos will somehow turn out alright.

Time to drug test these heroes!

There are reasonable gun owners ... there are reasonable proponents of a individual 2nd Amendment right.

Then there are the gun fetishists and/or the gun idolators.

Gohmert and his ilk are gun idolators: the gun can do no wrong ... it can never be blamed or implicated in wanton death and destruction; it is indeed for them an answer, a solver, an object with near miraculous protective powers.

The fetishists get their ego, self-worth and virility identified with the 'power' of the gun.

In my estimation, there is a national neurosis tied up with gun/violence culture ... and, yes, I include folks who spend hours and hours and hours in fantasy worlds blowing imaginary people apart with their 'game winning' weapon.

Shut the fuck up, Gomer.

Projecting his bullet-ridden fantasies like that...

Really, do you think most teachers or principals want to be armed guards and want to be responsible for shooting and killing people?

Has this asshole ever been in a real (as in genuine) violent situation? Survival depends on such things as reaction time and maintaining ones composure. It's not as simple as just having access to firearms.

to be a teacher carrying a gun in a school when a SWAT team enters.

slung across her shoulder, all day long at the school. Because if it were just stashed safely in her office, she wouldn't have had it as she ran to see what the fuss was.

Wow. That would make for interesting trips to the principal's office for noisy, naughty children.

Quick, go grab the Uzi every time some kids start shouting or you hear a loud noise!!!!

Performance artists and singer Laurie Anderson has a "routine" that is a comment on this same kind of "if only there had been more guns" logic:

I paraphrase:

"When I fly, I always take a bomb on the plane with me. See, the chances of one bomb being on the plane are pretty small. But the chances of TWO bombs being on the plane are astronomically miniscule! So, you see, by carrying a bomb on the plane with me, I greatly reduce my chances of being blown up."


Same logic! (or lack thereof)

all it takes is one Rambo-style thwarting of an assault in progress

and the Right Wing will be emboldened to throttle up with "Guns for
Everyone" as a means to their perceived notion of societal safety.

I hope this debate is headed in exactly the opposite direction, one
that any intelligent, reasoned, common sense American would
welcome - greater control of the means of violence.

Surprised they haven't yet linked it to the rape issue:

"Not everyone who packs one uses it!"

wait.......Oh Thank you God.

No fucking one should need a firearm at school, but if security requires a defensive firearm a nice PX4 would make more sense.

My kids school is locked down and has an armed deputy during normal school hours.

but still alive and kicking, just can't speak. Or write.

From a guy named Hoodathunk


"An even better idea would be to remove all the metal detectors and protection personnel from the Capitol building, Senate and Congressional office buildings. Then everyone in Congress can be personally responsible for defending themselves.

Then we will see how long it takes them to act."

They have fist fights in the Ukrainian Parliament all the time but we'll show them how it's done American style with guns.

That's American exceptionalism. This Gohmert is nothing but brainless NRA stooge.

It's not her job to throw down on random psychopathic assholes in body armor.

Given that, might it be someone else's job to prevent that being added to her job description? Maybe your job to make sure that psychopathic assholes might find it harder to get military grade rifles?

Oh, not your job?

That's right - your job is to get up on the tee-vee and get weepy and puffy toting a big Pillowcase Full Of Republican Sad-Sad-SAD! and talk about what might have been but wasn't, and what should have been, which is beyond ridiculous.

Fuck you, Congressman. With all due respect.

and on top of being a teacher, I have to be:

a referee
a coach
a substitute parent
a cook
a janitor
a nurse
a computer technician
a child psychologist
a shoulder to cry on
a job reference

and now someone wants me or my principal to have a gun? Let me tell you something...

I teach in a classroom that has students from grade 6 to grade 8 in it. I used to be a security guard...I weigh about 195, so I'm a pretty big guy. I have a student who is taller and heavier than I am, and when he gets in a bad mood you get out of his way. Now, if I had a gun in my classroom, guess which person in my class is going to be more likely to get to it before I do?

Guns in the classroom are like guns in the home. A gun in the home is more likely to kill the owner or someone related to the owner. I can deal with coaching volleyball...I can't deal with one of my students getting killed because I have a gun in my class.

is part of a teacher's skill set. I can't see that pointing a gun and saying "Surrender that umbrella you are poking in Jennifer's eye" would be a successful ploy.

imagine what steps would be needed at a place like a SCHOOL? There would be so many stages of accessing and loading a firearm in a school, there would be no way a teacher or administrator could be battle-ready when a gunman is unloading at people.

So, explain to me again how arming everyone in a school would have prevented this and other mass shootings at schools?

And thanks for the words of wisdom, experience and sanity.

Open carry for kids. That would have stopped the killer for sure !

Oh yeah, the janitor needs to pack too and the lunch ladies/men.




eta: This is THE STUPIDEST FUCKING THING I've ever heard an elected official say. People of East Texas, make this man disappear ASAP.

... is part of the Fascist system within our Democratic society that continues to threaten...

"We the people of the United States and the order to form a more perfect UNION, establish JUSTICE, insure DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY, provide for the common defense, PROMOTE the GENERAL WELFARE and secure the Blessing of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity..."

the first paragraph that "ordains and establishes our Constitution for the United States of America."

Of course it is natural for this fearful man to think the solution to stopping gun violence is to proliferate more guns on this already gun crazy society. Until our elected leaders start to do the right thing, unfortunately, we will see more tragedies like this one. And lets not forget the economic struggles that faces too many of our citizens will continue to be, also, a factor that drives people into dark places.

Or how about putting soldiers around every school with sand bags and perimeter guards so any idiot can prance around with a gun...

and show us all that there's absolutely nothing but vacuum inside that hat rack of yours. God would want you to....Go ahead now....Jesus is waiting for you in Heaven....sure he is....Rapture Now...Avoid the Rush! After all, it's Christmas in Heaven every day for all eternity!

There were plenty of adults who acted to defend the children and survived, but Gomer, being a rightwing coward, won't dare extend his criticism to them, lest they go on national television and rightfully rip him a new asshole.

So, instead, Gomer picks the principal, who died tragically, to make the focus of his douchebaggery, knowing full well that she can't defend herself now and is unable respond to his prickish comments.

the required training?

I doubt it.

an ignorant jackass.

guns in Senate and House? Wouldn't that be fun???

.... and that W hadn't cheated in ohio in 2004.

Gohmert is the dimmest bulb on God' Xmas tree.

in case the Principal is not on school grounds at the time....and then the untrained teachers (or Principals) can get into a big gun battle with the shooter(s) - and if the shooter runs, the untrained in weapons teachers and Principal can chase him down firing random automatic clips, spraying hundreds of bullets everywhere in the hallways and classrooms until they get them all or they get hit themselves.

What a fucking Texas Republican moronic clown - No wonder he went on Fox 'news' he would of been tossed out on his ass if he went on anywhere else.

And then ADDING that assault rifle, taken from the dead principal's cold, dead fingers, and using THAT weapon to slaughter more innocent children, did he?

Gohmert is BY FAR the MOST stupidest person EVER to be in Congress.

Some people have no class or tact.

He & Virginia Foxx have got to be the stupidest members of Congress. And Bachmann.

considered irrational.

Fucking despicable.

It's foolish to suggest the principal would have able to play movie heroine within a matter of seconds.

How come it's difficult for people to see it takes training to think of using a gun when you're under fire? They suggest things like doing away with gun free zones and arming teachers (just another thing teachers are expected to do without getting paid, BTW). They seem to think we have to unleash the Clint Eastwood in everyone, and if he's not unleashed already, it must be the government that's getting in his way. No, Dirty Harry wouldn't have let a gun free zone stand in his way.

The statistics on crimes thwarted by guns are not in the millions, or hundred thousands, as progunners have been led to believe. It's actually somewhere in the tens of thousands if even that. And that's usually not returning fire. Soldiers have to train in a unit, with group reinforcement to learn how to hold a position and return fire. And in their first encounter with fire, they'll freeze.

Shooting practice will do nothing to overcome this. For self-defense, guns are a fraud. You're more likely to die of a gunshot wound if you have a gun in the house, as Lanza's mother did. It's hard to justify self-defense when it makes you more likely to die.

is relevant?

If she'd had a gun she would have frozen, but she attacked barehanded?!

Really?!!

Here's my post in it's entirety:

And I wish the kid didn't have access to weapons at home so the principal and 26 others would still be alive now.

What an idiot.

she would have carried the gun, even if she was allowed to.

but I guess he's so full of shit he needed that space for storage.

I'm trying to piece together what kind of person listens to Louie Gohmert talk and says "Yeah, THAT's the guy I wants representin' ME in Congress!". I'm also trying to come to grips with the fact that there are a whole hell of a LOT of people who think like this and supposedly walk erect, seeing as how Louie is where he is, and all . . .

You can buy Uzis and assault rifles in yard sales. Something has to be changed. It has to be banned or this is going to keep happening.

The website itself directs users to an email system and screens by ZIP Code, but I just found his D.C. and Texas office numbers:

Be nice to staff.

[url]http://gohmert.house.gov/[/url]

D.C. telephone number: (202) 225-3035
Fax: (202) 226-1230
Toll Free: (866) 535-6302

Tyler, TX, phone: (903) 561-6349
Fax: (903) 561-7110

All the criminals have guns, all the insane mass murders have guns and all mom and pop, grandma and grandpa are armed to the teeth!

What kind of a sick fuckin country are we living in?

Just think, mass killer invades school and all the teachers whip out their personal machine-guns and the kids are caught in the crossfire!

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG???

because they wouldn't even have needed to bring their own weapon.

He even saved the life of the shooter (this is one of the few where the shooter didn't die).

As far as I know that was the only shooting with an armed teacher, and N=1 arguments are usually bad. I doubt the risks outweigh the benefits, but this is something we have seen actually happen.

let me say as a gun owning progressive,(purchased after being a home invasion victim) gohmert's comment reeks of ignorance. i can think of at least 5 other weapons preferable to an m4 for close quarter defense. the optimal being a shotgun. lethal at close range, less penetration thru walls, less aiming time required. most rifles are sighted in at least 100 m. how many self defense situations are at a 100 m.?

innocent lives. Not a safe assumption, imo.

Wow, that would sure calm things down, eh?

fail to realize is that the perpetrator often has the elements of surprise, shock and awe on his side. Moreover many have carefully planned their attacks. Years ago a perp walked into the DC Homicide Squad headquarters and killed a detective and an FBI agent, both of whom were armed. A third agent, also armed, was shot and left for dead!

More guns means more shots fired and potentially more people wounded or killed. Repukes like him already disparage teachers and their unions yet they want teachers armed and ready for battle. Having guns in school more likely translates into curiosity gone awry with an accidental death and big liability.