Senators want commission to look at mass shootings
Source: AP
BY BY ANNE FLAHERTY, ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON (AP) Two senators are calling for a national commission to examine mass shootings in the United States, while a colleague says shes push to ban the sale of military-style assault weapons.
The proposals are among the first to come from Congress in the wake of Fridays school shooting in Newtown, Conn.
Sen. Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut independent, tells Fox News Sunday that a national commission could be used to scrutinize the nations gun laws, mental health system and the role that violent video games and movies might play in shootings. Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois agrees, and says its time that the nation reflects in a thoughtful way.
Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California tells NBCs Meet the Press that shell revive her plan to ban new assault weapons.
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Read more: http://www.salon.com/2012/12/16/senators_want_commission_to_look_at_mass_shootings/
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)atreides1
(16,079 posts)I don't think so...and you really want to wait until 2014 for Vicky Kennedy to be elected to the US Senate...that's if she's even thinking about running for the seat!
Bloomberg is too much of a control freak and has his own agenda, it's well known he doesn't believe in the 2nd Amendment...and therefore will not be able to provide an unbiased decision...but I think that's what the anti-gun nuts want...a ringer, someone who they know will call for the banning of all handguns if not all guns!
I think whoever heads it will have to be someone neutral on the issue. Any leaning to either side will make the counter side more likely to reject the findings if it is not to their liking
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)senseless shootings -- as long as they can have their gun and the possibility of shooting someone themselves?
It is very hard to be neutral about guns.
Gun fanatics need to consult their own common sense and propose some realistic solutions here.
In this case, the mother encouraged her son's interest in guns.
Every gun fanatic should take note of that fact and ask him- or herself what can be done.
Those of us who don't want to be bothered with owning guns quite naturally would just as soon ban all but the most basic hunting rifles. If gun lovers have a different alternative that they think is better, they should suggest it.
Because, if the nation faces any more shootings of this brutality, barbarity, cruelty and hideousness, we will move toward a total ban.
I don't favor a total ban, but it's up to the NRA and its supporters to propose a workable solution short of that.
forthemiddle
(1,381 posts)Would you want a pro life supporter to head a commission on looking into reducing teenage pregnancies? Of course not. You would NEVER accept the recommendations.
It must be someone neutral, or at the least two co heads, one from pro 2nd Amendment, one pro gun control.
We also have to get honest about the break down of the family (and that is any family - gay, straight, etc.) but the family is no longer the center of our lives, and maybe that along with responsibility, and accountability of our teenagers may need to be looked at.
Violent movies, and video games. Mental health, etc. NOTHING should be off the table.
This won't be solved by more gun control laws alone.
I don't have the answers, but I am willing to look at all possible solutions.
ricardA
(42 posts)There are at least 200 million non politicians adults that could contribute with ideas, but if an open round table is set up to gather info and discuss solutions it would be best. Basically and ad hoc commision of volunteers that are given acces to the neccessary information, and they should be from across all sector of society. That draft is made public and passed on to the legislators, they seem to be too busy in other things of priority to them. It shouldn't take more than a few weeks. Then they write the law based on that, no need to spy on any one because is an open and respectful discussion.
Many laws could be written but it apparently takes more than that. So in parrallel other actions must be taken, people can add that to the conflict resolution drafted by people using the web, like in a forum. Again, I think part of the problem is the need for income, dignity in earning it, and basic social and moral values. And you find that in all kind of people so the variety is not the problem. The good question is why and the true source of the problems. Millions of people ask the same question, and the answer is not more media coverage.
zebrastripe
(26 posts)to be against the killings caused by the firing of a gun is to be a Nut.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)If say the nation is made safe by having no guns and strong punishment for those that do,
please tell me, what do they want a gun for?
Can't they go bowling or play golf? Ping-pong?
I just don't get it.
all the reasons people say they want guns
it's like cigarettes
people used to want cigarettes
now most don't
They can have carrots or celery sticks instead
What do they want a gun for that would be so bad if you did not have one.
someone please tell me
axetogrind
(118 posts)Why Bloomberg? Wouldn't you want someone whose not biased? Wouldn't you want someone who is honest?
Mr. Bloomberg is none of that, I would like someone who is neutral and able to be honest.
beevul
(12,194 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)and the stereotyping with the 1% is just ridiculous.
Do you even know how much charity and to which causes, Mike has given in his lifetime?
BILLIONS and all to liberal causes, like the environment
when people start lumping everyone into a group, it reeks of the six degrees of separation crap that conspiracy theorists say about great people like Zbig B.
Myself, I can't stand conspiracy theories.
the NRA would love it if Mike were not part of their solution
LynnTTT
(362 posts)Translation" we all get a chance to look somber and thoughtful. Then someone works on a few bills for 3 years, then the bills don't actually get sent up because it's right before an election (cause it's always before an election) and then we talk about it again after the next "incident".
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)And this, is what is wrong with our leadership in Washington .. Fucking spineless assholes.
Laurian
(2,593 posts)fucking commission, we need some politicians with balls.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)for doing something about our insane gun laws.
I live in Montgomery County, MD, the Land of Studies.
Whenever there's a sticky issue our county officials don't want to deal with, they throw a few hundred thousand dollars at it by ordering a long, slow, exhaustive study that takes several years and ends up stashed in some dusty back room, forgotten. And the problems continue.
Fuck studies. We need LAWS. Now.
Danmel
(4,916 posts)or commission or blue ribbon panel. I work in local government and I see it all the time. We know what we need to do. We don't need to waste a year on a study, while another 3 or 4 or more of these massacres occur.
bucolic_frolic
(43,190 posts)You need a commission on parenting.
How to develop integrity when raising kids.
If you don't examine that, you won't reject
the video games and movies, and you won't have
enough money to pay all the psychologists in the
world to treat the mentally unbalanced that the
current parenting system creates.
groundloop
(11,519 posts)In the end enough congress critters who are paid by the NRA will block any useful legislation, and we'll still be right where we are now.
HOWEVER, even though we're pessimistic as hell we still need to call and email our congress critters and tell them to get off their asses and do something about this.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Mil-Spec health care instead of Mil-Spec bombs.
This is so much on my conscious that I dreamed I was in Vietnam last night, holding a hand grenade that was ready to go off. That's what this country is. Half a trillion per year for death, when we are still in the 60's technology when it comes to...wait for it...
EMOTIONAL WELLNESS.
This isn't "mental health" in the sense that Congress conjures up. This is a thing that affects every one of us. Not just a few ill people.
Damn. Am I the only one who sees this.
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)They are trying to look concerned while actually doing nothing.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Senate and the house must meet on this now. Where the hell is Issa? Y'know think this could be up front and foremost, but NOOO, but harassing Amb Rice and investigating what seems to be the cause of congress who voted to limit money in protecting American ambassadors in the world. 4 patriotic Americans died. 26 patriotic Americans died because congress are cowards.
roseBudd
(8,718 posts)undeterred
(34,658 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)First it's too soon to talk about it and now a commission to think about it. How many more will die while we're "thinking?"
kurtzapril4
(1,353 posts)Which means they'll all talk 'til they're blue in the face, they'll talk just to hear themselves talk, they'll call witnesses who'll talk talk talk. It'll all be talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk just like it always is and in the end not one goddamned thing will be done. And after the next mass shooting, lather, rinse, repeat.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)Historic NY
(37,451 posts)all they need are the experts from the US military to come in and ask if they are effective or not.
mulsh
(2,959 posts)oh, wait, never mind.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)A fucking Commission? To "scrutinize?"
God damn them.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)Aren't senate commissions a tool of the GOP to impede real progress on any important issue?
zebrastripe
(26 posts)mrdmk
(2,943 posts)Welcome to D.U. zebrastripe
Kingofalldems
(38,459 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)My Senator Feinstein became Mayor on the day of a bloody assassination right in front of her. She and Sen. Schumer have been working on their bill for a year -- it's ready to go.
I have no faith in yet another commission to "reflect" in a "thoughtful way."
Hekate