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Judi Lynn

(160,598 posts)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 05:20 PM Dec 2012

Israel Rejects US Gun Lobby Claims on Its Security

Source: Associated Press

Israel Rejects US Gun Lobby Claims on Its Security
By By AMY TEIBEL Associated Press
JERUSALEM December 24, 2012 (AP)

Israel's policy on issuing guns is restrictive, and armed guards at its schools are meant to stop terrorists, not crazed or disgruntled gunmen, experts said Monday, rejecting claims by America's top gun lobby that Israel serves as proof for its philosophy that the U.S. needs more weapons, not fewer.

Far from the image of a heavily armed population where ordinary people have their own arsenals to repel attackers, Israel allows its people to acquire firearms only if they can prove their professions or places of residence put them in danger. The country relies on its security services, not armed citizens, to prevent terror attacks.

Though military service in Israel is compulsory, routine familiarity with weapons does not carry over into civilian life. Israel has far fewer private weapons per capita than the U.S., and while there have been gangster shootouts on the streets from time to time, gun rampages outside the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are unheard of.

The National Rifle Association responded to the Dec. 14 killing of 20 first-graders and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school by resisting calls for tighter gun control and calling for armed guards and police at schools. On Sunday, the lobby's chief executive, Wayne LaPierre, invoked his perception of the Israeli school security system to back his proposal.




Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/israel-rejects-us-gun-lobby-claims-security-18057515

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Israel Rejects US Gun Lobby Claims on Its Security (Original Post) Judi Lynn Dec 2012 OP
i've always been a huge supporter of Isael samsingh Dec 2012 #1
THis should be brought up now and constantly...while NRA nuts are being interviewed on MSM riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #2
Israel is a progressive nation is many more ways than the US bluestateguy Dec 2012 #3
Well, their Cradle to Grave Universal Health Care program is certainly more progressive than ours. bvar22 Dec 2012 #10
Must read article riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #4
Good luck buying a gun if you're an Israeli Arab Recursion Dec 2012 #5
This is the rules for EVERY Israeli riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #6
The truth is irrelevant on Bullshit Mt. RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #7
That is not RW. former9thward Dec 2012 #14
Jerusalem is a heavily contested city. No surprise the Israeli gov't allows people to carry. Selatius Dec 2012 #15
In other words, LaPierre lied Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2012 #8
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #9
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I hope this gets posted every day at least until the New Year. libdem4life Dec 2012 #12
kick nt kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #13
"meant to stop terrorists, not crazed or disgruntled gunmen" ...? humblebum Dec 2012 #16

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
3. Israel is a progressive nation is many more ways than the US
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 05:27 PM
Dec 2012

and it's time American liberals started acknowledging that.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
10. Well, their Cradle to Grave Universal Health Care program is certainly more progressive than ours.
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:27 PM
Dec 2012

I would take THAT without hesitation.
Maybe THEY should be sending aid to us?

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
4. Must read article
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 05:29 PM
Dec 2012

They are even stricter than Canada.



In Israel, applicants must undergo police screening and medical exams, in part to determine their mental state, Amit said.

RandiFan1290

(6,239 posts)
7. The truth is irrelevant on Bullshit Mt.
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 05:41 PM
Dec 2012

RW radio spread the meme that every Israeli is armed and they walk the streets with their weapons.
Add to that the pic of 1 "teacher" with a rifle and all is well on Bullshit Mountain.

former9thward

(32,066 posts)
14. That is not RW.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:34 PM
Dec 2012

I have been to Jerusalem twice for extended stays. I saw many high school students walking to school with rifles on their back. I saw teenagers in bars with machine guns slung around their shoulders. And yes I did see quite a few civilians walking down streets with guns.

Selatius

(20,441 posts)
15. Jerusalem is a heavily contested city. No surprise the Israeli gov't allows people to carry.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:03 AM
Dec 2012

If we were talking about a city further away from the front lines, such as Netanya or Haifa or Ashdod, the restrictions on weapons probably would be more.

You're not as likely going to run into a gun-toting Palestinian bent on killing a lot of people in Netanya or Ashdod compared to a city like Jerusalem.

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humblebum

(5,881 posts)
16. "meant to stop terrorists, not crazed or disgruntled gunmen" ...?
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:37 AM
Dec 2012

Well, of course we know terrorists would never strike in the US. Especially where there are a bunch of unarmed innocents. (RELUCTANT SARCASM)

And of course no terrorist can be considered crazed or disgruntled.

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