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brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:42 PM Dec 2012

Jack Reed hasn’t made up his mind about filibuster changes

Source: WPRI

U.S. Sen. Jack Reed says he hasn’t made up his mind yet about whether to support a push by some of his colleagues to change the Senate’s filibuster rules to make it harder for Republicans to block legislation.

“I haven’t made a conclusion,” Reed told WPRI 12?s Tim White last week. “I am looking very carefully.”

“I am – as I have had to do with everything – thinking very carefully about what we’re doing so that I can make the best possible decision on behalf of all Rhode Islanders and indeed, when it comes to procedures in the Senate, for the country at large,” Reed said. “Not just for the moment, but for the future of the country.”

Reed and about 10 other Democrats who remain on the fence about the filibuster changes are coming under heavy pressure from liberal groups to back the proposal after the GOP made heavy use of procedural roadblocks to stymie President Obama’s agenda. A poll they released this month suggested a majority of Rhode Islanders back the idea in theory.




Read more: http://blogs.wpri.com/2012/12/26/jack-reed-hasnt-made-up-his-mind-about-filibuster-changes/



I've made it clear to DSCC and any candidates coming to me for support (which they've already started to do; I had breakfast with a US Senator up for re-election two weeks ago), that opposing filibuster reform will be a deal-breaker as far as my money goes.
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Jack Reed hasn’t made up his mind about filibuster changes (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2012 OP
I don't believe in the filibuster to begin with... naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #1
I will say I have no assurance the current GOP will preserve it when THEY next take control... brooklynite Dec 2012 #3
That if this gets done right, and the Dem's use it to govern effectively, Volaris Dec 2012 #6
i believe this bunch of pubes will vote to destroy it as soon as the dems try to use it leftyohiolib Dec 2012 #17
I say it will NOT be a problem when the Dems are in the Minority. annabanana Dec 2012 #19
great points. naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #21
X-Post this in Rhode Island, please. elleng Dec 2012 #2
It's important to reform the filibuster for reasons fredamae Dec 2012 #4
Pathetic. Chakab Dec 2012 #5
We worry about how the lack of a filibuster will effect policy if the Republicans ever get world wide wally Dec 2012 #7
stupid democrats still believe republicans have any kind of honor. nt msongs Dec 2012 #8
They blew up the Senate during the past 4 years Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2012 #10
There has GOT to be SOME kind of reform to filibuster rules IMHO Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2012 #9
Indeed. eom +1 Purveyor Dec 2012 #15
Sounds like someone needs Phlem Dec 2012 #11
These guys are so afraid of rocking the boat. It seems that Congress is about not rocking the boat. Gregorian Dec 2012 #12
Let's see, when the GOP filibusters every bill, and the Dem's filibuster none, who does it benefit? grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #13
Any Democrat not voting for filibuster reform MUST be considered a mole. FreeBC Dec 2012 #14
Are there any Liberal Democratic primary challengers in the wings? Post a link for my donation. Vincardog Dec 2012 #16
He is one of the reasons the Dem Third Doctor Dec 2012 #18
To do otherwise would give the win to the Gop 100% of the time julian09 Dec 2012 #20
DINO alert! blackspade Dec 2012 #22
Crap, we could be down several votes down davidpdx Dec 2012 #23
 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
1. I don't believe in the filibuster to begin with...
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:50 PM
Dec 2012

But, what comes around goes around.

Anybody who supports this has to be prepared for the Republicans to exploit it the next time they control the Senate.

What will you say then?

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
3. I will say I have no assurance the current GOP will preserve it when THEY next take control...
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:04 PM
Dec 2012

...so, might as well fix things now.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
6. That if this gets done right, and the Dem's use it to govern effectively,
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:19 PM
Dec 2012

it will likely be a good long while before the GOP has 51 votes in the Senate again.

Fuck em. If the GOP wants to abuse this fix when they get back into (Senate) Power, then they can OWN the stupid shit they do with that Power, and get themselves un-elected (again).

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
19. I say it will NOT be a problem when the Dems are in the Minority.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 05:29 PM
Dec 2012

The way the proposed legislation is written, "motions to commit" cannot be filibustered, which means only that legislation WILL BE DISCUSSED (no problem there)

AND

filibusters must be "talkng filibusters".. so everyone will get a chance to see what the objection is. I'm pretty damn sure that Democratic policies are MUCH more popular with Americans that repub policies are.. (Often to the tune of 70-& %)

When a lengthy filibuster is in progress, the media will not be able to ignore it and will be FORCED to cover the policy.

It pretty easy to see who's just being obstructionist and who is being principled.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
4. It's important to reform the filibuster for reasons
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:04 PM
Dec 2012

not even lawmakers consider-We the people.

If lawmakers wish to filibuster then We should be able, by a stand up-talking filibuster, to fully understand facts, reasoning and conclusions held by any lawmaker in support Or oppisition to any bill addressing any issue.
This allows Us to be more fully informed when we engage our lawmakers as we participate in our own governance.
The filibuster was reformed to it's current form in 1975, the same year ALEC was founded.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
7. We worry about how the lack of a filibuster will effect policy if the Republicans ever get
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:19 PM
Dec 2012

another majority in the Senate along with a Republican President. However, I have no doubts whatsoever that such a Senate would pass its own filibuster rules and not allow Democrats the right to filibuster.

Think about it.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
10. They blew up the Senate during the past 4 years
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:47 PM
Dec 2012

During this last session, the Republicans obviously had no intention of honoring their "gentleman's agreement" and just went right back to obstructing everything, believing that they'd be in charge in January (which is obviously not going to happen now). This needs to change and I don't mind that Democrats will be held to the same rules in future Congresses if they wind up back in the minority. Bills should fail or succeed on their merits and nothing else IMHO.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
9. There has GOT to be SOME kind of reform to filibuster rules IMHO
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:44 PM
Dec 2012

We have literally reached the point where a MINORITY of 41 Senators can control the chamber, which was never intended to happen. It should not be allowed to prevent a bill from reaching the floor where it can be debated. If people want to fight a bill, they need to be up speaking out about it and telling the rest of us why it's a good/bad bill. Otherwise, the majority should be able to bring a bill to the floor for a vote and let the chips fall where they may. Bills should fail (or succeed) on their merits, not on procedural technicalities IMHO.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
11. Sounds like someone needs
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:49 PM
Dec 2012

their 15 minutes of fame. He also deserves a public ass kicking from constituents and colleagues.

-p

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
12. These guys are so afraid of rocking the boat. It seems that Congress is about not rocking the boat.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:49 PM
Dec 2012

I"m sick of it. The boat is sinking anyways. Rock it.

Don't look too closely, Reed, you might miss the forest for the tree you're staring at.

 

FreeBC

(403 posts)
14. Any Democrat not voting for filibuster reform MUST be considered a mole.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 04:21 PM
Dec 2012

It must be a top priority to remove them from office. Democrats that help block the democratic platform are not true democrats.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
18. He is one of the reasons the Dem
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 05:20 PM
Dec 2012

party when had clear majorities were not as effective. Why would you not support a movement that would untie you own party's hands?

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
22. DINO alert!
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:24 PM
Dec 2012
I haven’t made a conclusion,” Reed told WPRI 12?s Tim White last week. “I am looking very carefully.”


Code for: I'm a spineless two-faced weasel.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
23. Crap, we could be down several votes down
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 12:04 AM
Dec 2012

from the 50 we need (the assumption with that would be that Biden would break the tie). Last I heard Kerry and Feinstein were flapping in the wind.

I'm getting the feeling this isn't going to happen. What a crock of shit.

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