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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:17 PM Dec 2012

Supreme Court declines to block provision covering contraceptives in health care law

Source: NBC News

WASHINGTON -- The U.S. Supreme Court declined Wednesday to put a temporary hold on a controversial provision in the new health care law requiring employers to provide health insurance coverage for contraceptives.

Two businesses challenging the act -- the nationwide chain of 500 Hobby Lobby Stores and Mardel, a chain of Christian bookstores -- contended that the law violates their religious freedom. Their legal battle is continuing over the merits of their claim. In the meantime, they asked the US Supreme Court to put a temporary hold on the law, which takes effect January 1, 2013.

On Wednesday, Justice Sonia Sotomayor, who handles emergency appeals from the courts where the companies are based, declined to grant an injunction.

In a brief written opinion, she said the Supreme Court has never addressed similar freedom-of-religion claims brought by for-profit corporations objecting to mandatory provisions of employment benefit laws.

Read more: http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/26/16171443-supreme-court-declines-to-block-provision-covering-contraceptives-in-health-care-law

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Supreme Court declines to block provision covering contraceptives in health care law (Original Post) Tx4obama Dec 2012 OP
Hobby Lobby ... found pockets of gold in their flocks' pockets by peddling god wares. I'm surprised RKP5637 Dec 2012 #1
Thanks to Justice Sotomayor for that. n/t ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2012 #2
I warned long ago that she is a centrist. Lasher Dec 2012 #9
Which is what a judge should be. efhmc Dec 2012 #17
Slapped. Down. Repeatedly. To. Stupid. Fundamentalist. Groups. Panasonic Dec 2012 #3
Do corporations have religions? Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #10
The story does say "the family that owns the two businesses" starroute Dec 2012 #11
They are both incorporated, a separate legal entity. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #13
"Corporations are people"... ReRe Dec 2012 #16
Que Rush's head exploding in five, four, three, two and ....... loyalkydem Dec 2012 #4
Religion a a personal affair. Business is a public affair. Next! freshwest Dec 2012 #5
Yes. If an employee does not want birth control then they don't. If they do, no business glinda Dec 2012 #14
They live in a fantasy world where they think they have that authority. I'm grateful to Obama and freshwest Dec 2012 #18
Now I say to Hobby Lobby: you shut your mouth and comply with the law! bluestateguy Dec 2012 #6
And Obamacare forever! AlbertCat Dec 2012 #15
Cool! SoapBox Dec 2012 #7
Well I wonder if these same righties Vietnameravet Dec 2012 #8
Can they come back and ask for an en banc hearing of the entire court? davidpdx Dec 2012 #12
I don't know, but I hope someone here on DU will let us know :) n/t Tx4obama Dec 2012 #19
I know the other organization that has been fighting the ACA is Liberty University davidpdx Dec 2012 #22
I don't want to pay for women's contraception Captain Boomerang Dec 2012 #20
You make an interesting point Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #21
No Viagra coverage for single men ... no sex outside marriage!!!! JoePhilly Dec 2012 #23
You left off an important caveat sellitman Dec 2012 #24

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
1. Hobby Lobby ... found pockets of gold in their flocks' pockets by peddling god wares. I'm surprised
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:22 PM
Dec 2012

Hobby Lobby doesn't want a tax free status.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
3. Slapped. Down. Repeatedly. To. Stupid. Fundamentalist. Groups.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:27 PM
Dec 2012

Fuck you HL, and Mardel's. You have not gotten any of my money since 2002.

Sotomeyer is telling you to sit down, shut the fuck up, and do your business, and no to invade other people's personal properties.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
10. Do corporations have religions?
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:21 PM
Dec 2012

Were they arguing on behalf of their own personal beliefs being violated, or those of the corporation?

I would not want to stand up in front of the Supreme Court that ruled corporations are people and argue that corporations also have religious beliefs.

Even that might be a bridge too far.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
11. The story does say "the family that owns the two businesses"
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:38 PM
Dec 2012

If they really are privately-held and not public corporations, that might affect the final decision.

If I understand what's going on here, the plaintiffs are seeking an emergency stay -- which would typically require them to prove there is a strong likelihood of their case being successful. That was the grounds on which Sotomayor rejected their appeal.

But it seems like the case could ultimately be decided in favor of family-owned businesses without touching the corporations-are-persons issue at all.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
13. They are both incorporated, a separate legal entity.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:58 PM
Dec 2012

I also own a business, it is incorporated as an LC, and the business has to stand on its own.

I cannot conflate any personal financial, real estate, or any other dealings with any dealings of the business I wholly own, without leaving myself wide open to consequences.

Can't have it both ways, it's either run as an incorporated business or its a sole proprietorship, can't be both.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
16. "Corporations are people"...
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 09:35 PM
Dec 2012

...don't ya know? They now they have religion! Holy rollers they are now...

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. Religion a a personal affair. Business is a public affair. Next!
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:38 PM
Dec 2012

Last edited Thu Dec 27, 2012, 12:56 AM - Edit history (1)

And stop discriminating against women!

glinda

(14,807 posts)
14. Yes. If an employee does not want birth control then they don't. If they do, no business
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:59 PM
Dec 2012

should have any right to dictate their Religious beliefs when they make a killing off of the public, who carry varied beliefs. Where does any business have any right to "punish" employees for their choices? What a pile of crud.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. They live in a fantasy world where they think they have that authority. I'm grateful to Obama and
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 12:59 AM
Dec 2012
the judges for standing up to these petty tyrants.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
6. Now I say to Hobby Lobby: you shut your mouth and comply with the law!
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:39 PM
Dec 2012

Obamacare now! Obamacare tomorrow! And Obamacare forever!

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
15. And Obamacare forever!
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 09:35 PM
Dec 2012

NO!

I want it to get BETTER than Obamacare. Y'know, like single payer... or a Public Option.

Obamacare's a start

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
7. Cool!
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:40 PM
Dec 2012

"...the Supreme Court has never addressed similar freedom-of-religion claims brought by for-profit corporations objecting to mandatory provisions of employment benefit laws."

Hilarious.

But, have any "non" profits tried this yet? OR...there is already provisions made for "non" profit (aka, churchs) types?

 

Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
8. Well I wonder if these same righties
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:44 PM
Dec 2012

would allow certain businesses to withhold taxes for wars they dont like? Guess we all know the answer to that!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
12. Can they come back and ask for an en banc hearing of the entire court?
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:40 PM
Dec 2012

Or petition another justice? I'm just wondering if that is now dead (for a lack of a better word).

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
22. I know the other organization that has been fighting the ACA is Liberty University
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:02 AM
Dec 2012

So there may actually be several separate cases still up in the area.

Captain Boomerang

(194 posts)
20. I don't want to pay for women's contraception
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 03:41 AM
Dec 2012

ONLY if I don't have to pay for Righties who clog up their arteries at Chick-Fil-A and other fine righty dining establishments.

Slobby Lobby probably needs to be sued the first time they violate this new health care law.

 

Resonance_Chamber

(142 posts)
21. You make an interesting point
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 06:39 AM
Dec 2012

Why should I have to pay, via high HC premiums and taxes, for overweight people and people who intentionally live an unhealthy lifestyle?

One can even make a case that gun owners are driving up the cost of MY HC because statically the gun owners gun will be used to kill another member of their family. Is that not irresponsible behavior that we have to subsidize?

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