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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 10:49 PM Dec 2012

Boehner: Don’t blame us

Source: Washington Post

Like Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) bristled at President Obama’s claim Sunday morning that Republicans were holding up a deal on the “fiscal cliff.”

“Americans elected President Obama to lead, not cast blame,” Boehner said.

He went on to blame Obama and Senate Democrats for the current situation, with no deal yet and automatic spending cuts and tax hikes set to take effect in two days.

“The president’s comments today are ironic, as a recurring theme of our negotiations was his unwillingness to agree to anything that would require him to stand up to his own party,” Boehner said. “We’ve been reasonable and responsible. The president is the one who has never been able to get to ‘yes.’”


Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2012/12/30/boehner-dont-blame-us/?tid=pm_pop



Of course, no one in the media asked Boehner how did President Obama manage to mind control Boehner into making himself look like an idiot by wasting a week grandstanding with the Plan B proposal. They just politely allowed Boehner to live in his alternate Fox News universe.
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Boehner: Don’t blame us (Original Post) TomCADem Dec 2012 OP
Sorry you will get the blame and everyone who voted for you loyalkydem Dec 2012 #1
Far too fucking late. You got us to this mess. You are merely trying to weasel your way out. Panasonic Dec 2012 #2
Keep dreaming! Congress is OWNED by special interests as is Obama! Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #63
I'm sure you would like to wiggle out of any blame, boner.. Cha Dec 2012 #3
We should send him to the Naughty Mat! sheshe2 Dec 2012 #27
Do you think he'll EVER sincerely apologize or will Cha Dec 2012 #31
WHAT A MORON ROBROX Dec 2012 #65
I'm told Boehner ran unopposed Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2013 #69
Boner's illegitimate children speak out The Wizard Dec 2012 #40
Since the bill to prevent going over the cliff should originate in the House it is on Boehner's back Thinkingabout Dec 2012 #4
Well this just proves that 2naSalit Dec 2012 #5
Sorry Mister Speaker Turbineguy Dec 2012 #6
Orange Man F-A-I-L benld74 Dec 2012 #7
Of course we blame you Boner. Third Doctor Dec 2012 #8
Right! RobertEarl Dec 2012 #9
Remind me again how many bills Obama has vetoed, troll? n/t Stonepounder Dec 2012 #21
WTH? AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #52
Hey, yeah! Arkana Dec 2012 #62
oh fuck you Boner Skittles Dec 2012 #10
This ^^ OhioChick Dec 2012 #11
+1 TexasTowelie Dec 2012 #48
Boehner and Mcconnell are to blame Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2012 #12
yup! Botany Dec 2012 #20
What a sweet little innocent choir boy Johnny is .... bucolic_frolic Dec 2012 #13
Oh, yes, the GOP had nothing to do with the current mess they orchestrated January 20th, 2009: freshwest Dec 2012 #14
dan lungren shanti Dec 2012 #17
that is a blessing olddad56 Dec 2012 #34
Thank you Freshwest! sheshe2 Dec 2012 #30
LOOKEE what I found! Where Mitch got his millions! Should go VIRAL: freshwest Dec 2012 #37
I'm sorry, but which party voted no on almost everything? sakabatou Dec 2012 #15
Drunk again. tavernier Dec 2012 #16
Obama is leading nobodyspecial Dec 2012 #18
drunks believe anything they think Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #41
In the 100s of times the federal government has had to do debt ceiling "stuff" ... Botany Dec 2012 #19
Ah, but you will be blamed, Mr. Boehner union_maid Dec 2012 #22
Boehner: Don’t blame us AlbertCat Dec 2012 #23
Why should Obama stand up to the Democratic Party? JDPriestly Dec 2012 #24
Bwaaahaahaaaaaaaaa thelordofhell Dec 2012 #25
The Plain Truth Is That The Hang-up Has Always Been On Revenue DallasNE Dec 2012 #26
"austerity can spur economic growth" Unknown Beatle Dec 2012 #33
So Apparently Boner Has Forgotten the House is the Chamber With the Spending Authority dballance Dec 2012 #28
Sorry Johnny, I see that blueberry all over your face.... Salviati Dec 2012 #29
We're not really 'blaming' you, Johnny....we're just HOLDING you RESPONSIBLE! lastlib Dec 2012 #32
Ya know I think its time that Boehner had an cat scan done as cstanleytech Dec 2012 #35
Pass the bills or get out SwankyXomb Dec 2012 #36
Hold On To Your Hats People. Boehners Pushing Us Over The Cliff!! Left Coast2020 Dec 2012 #38
put your bill up for a vote boner Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #39
No dice, Boehner. Lugnut Dec 2012 #42
Get lost, Boner, you spineless greedy bastard judesedit Dec 2012 #43
Today's GOP Stewland Dec 2012 #44
Then he better send a text and tell Lyndsey Graham to get on the same page... ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #45
A couple of the John2 Dec 2012 #49
Obama IS leading Heathen57 Dec 2012 #46
Republicans FAIL to take responsibility for their FAIL Berlum Dec 2012 #47
Gee, Boner, sorry you and yours are asshurt because the wealthy can't keep their precious tax cutz. HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #50
Too late. AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author LawnKorn Dec 2012 #53
A limp excuse Theyletmeeatcake2 Dec 2012 #54
a president's job is to "stand up to his own party"? unblock Dec 2012 #55
Wow! They really DO think we're stupid! GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #56
What a strange, disjointed statement. surrealAmerican Dec 2012 #57
The Boner is pathetic lunatica Dec 2012 #58
You also got elected to lead, Mr. Boehner. tanyev Dec 2012 #59
Boehner is the Blamer bucolic_frolic Dec 2012 #60
Fuck you, Boner. Arkana Dec 2012 #61
Well, it looks like Boehner is leaning toward not bringing the Senate Bill to a vote... TomCADem Jan 2013 #67
Sit down and STFU, John. You had your turn. Remember? yellowcanine Dec 2012 #64
Demanding that rethugs get everything and Democrats get nothing caveat_imperator Dec 2012 #66
Both Boehner's and Cantor's pictures are in the dictionary Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2013 #68
How can one get blamed for not being responsible? nolabels Jan 2013 #70
Kentauros: Go fuck yourself! kentauros Jan 2013 #71
Who should we blame then?... bamacrat Jan 2013 #72
 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
2. Far too fucking late. You got us to this mess. You are merely trying to weasel your way out.
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 10:51 PM
Dec 2012

Not going to work. YOU OWN ALL OF THIS, REPUBLICANS.

What's more - the Defense budget will be the next agenda, and WILL BE sliced down to .000001% of the budget (as in a friggin penny)

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
63. Keep dreaming! Congress is OWNED by special interests as is Obama!
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 01:14 PM
Dec 2012

If we could cut the Pentagon budget down to a level where we are no longer the world's policeman, we would have surpluses everywhere else. This will never happen unless we all demand COMPLETE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM (CCFR)!!! Spread the word!

Cha

(297,375 posts)
3. I'm sure you would like to wiggle out of any blame, boner..
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 10:59 PM
Dec 2012

Too bad for you.. that the country is on to your bullshit.

Cha

(297,375 posts)
31. Do you think he'll EVER sincerely apologize or will
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:22 AM
Dec 2012

he be in an neverending cycle of naughty mat time outs?

 

ROBROX

(392 posts)
65. WHAT A MORON
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 03:09 PM
Dec 2012

The stupid morons who elected this idiot will believe this morons line of thinking.

This country has to spend more time educating people and less time monitoring people's personal habits like SEX, DRINKING, and DRUGS.

This is pure fantasy that GOP members can THINK or REASON.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. Since the bill to prevent going over the cliff should originate in the House it is on Boehner's back
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:00 PM
Dec 2012

Maybe because Boehner is unable to move the TP group and any bill passed in the House had to go through the Senate and for the fact Boehner does not want to appear weak in bringing enough votes to get a bill out except with Democrats help. This one is yours Boehner, run with it.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
8. Of course we blame you Boner.
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:03 PM
Dec 2012

It was the GOP that created this situation in the first place. And that circus of last week just underscored who is to blame.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
9. Right!
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:03 PM
Dec 2012

If Obama didn't veto the republican bills from Boehner's house we would have never had any problems. Mr. Obama, put down that vetoing pen.!

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
62. Hey, yeah!
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 11:45 AM
Dec 2012

You're right! If only Obama had had the courage to sign all those horrible social engineering bills. Or if he had just found it within himself to sign Paul Ryan's draconian budget that destroys the social safety net and guts the poor and middle class.

Hey, but at least we'd still have a bloated, runaway military budget, right? Gotta keep things in perspective!

Get out.

bucolic_frolic

(43,206 posts)
13. What a sweet little innocent choir boy Johnny is ....
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:23 PM
Dec 2012

He may be able to obstruct, but he is not and has not the stature
of the President.

If you have to claim you're reasonable and responsible? You know
it's just posturing.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
14. Oh, yes, the GOP had nothing to do with the current mess they orchestrated January 20th, 2009:
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:27 PM
Dec 2012
Sabotage: The Story Behind The Republican Party's "Top Political Priority"...



Democrats condemn GOP's plot to obstruct Obama as 'appalling and sad'

Roger Draper book details how in 2009 senior Republican figures planned a campaign to bring Washington to a standstill

Democrats have rounded on revelations about a private dinner of House Republicans on inauguration day in 2009 in which they plotted a campaign of obstruction against newly installed president Barack Obama.

...The 15 Republicans were in a sombre mood as they gathered at the Caucus Room in Washington, an upscale restaurant where a New York strip steak costs $51.

Attending the dinner were House members Eric Cantor, Jeb Hensarling, Pete Hoekstra, Dan Lungren, Kevin McCarthy, Paul Ryan and Pete Sessions. From the Senate were Tom Coburn, Bob Corker, Jim DeMint, John Ensign and Jon Kyl. Others present were former House Speaker and future – and failed – presidential candidate Newt Gingrich and the Republican strategist Frank Luntz, who organised the dinner and sent out the invitations.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/26/democrats-gop-plot-obstruct-obama

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
18. Obama is leading
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:38 PM
Dec 2012

Leading is NOT doing what others want you to do.

"We’ve been reasonable and responsible" How do they even say this shit with a straight face?

Botany

(70,524 posts)
19. In the 100s of times the federal government has had to do debt ceiling "stuff" ...
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:42 PM
Dec 2012

... only two times have we had trouble and both times it was or is the republicans fault
and the debt ceiling rise lets us pay our bills ..... you know the bill rung up by George W
Fucktard.

union_maid

(3,502 posts)
22. Ah, but you will be blamed, Mr. Boehner
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:46 PM
Dec 2012

Not just by partisans like us. President Obama's approval rating is well into the 50's right now. Republican congressional approval? Less than half. Who is the public going to blame? Hmmm?

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
23. Boehner: Don’t blame us
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:57 PM
Dec 2012

"We didn't do anything."



Exactly.


(besides, Congress makes laws, not the President or Executive Branch. US Government 101)

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
24. Why should Obama stand up to the Democratic Party?
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:57 PM
Dec 2012

He and the Democratic Party won the election.

Republicans lost.

They need to live with it. They may control the House, but they lost the election. The tide is turning against them.

Many, many Republicans don't want cuts to Social Security either.

And Lindsay Graham seems to have forgotten that South Carolina is home to a lot of retired veterans. They are not going to like his insistence on cuts to the CPI increases.

Boehner needs to remember this:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/12/21/1351161/democratic-house-candidates-now-have-a-nearly-12-million-vote-lead-over-the-republicans/

Democrats would be in charge in the house if the Republicans had not gerrymandered their way to power.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
26. The Plain Truth Is That The Hang-up Has Always Been On Revenue
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:03 AM
Dec 2012

And the Norquist pledge. Republicans have never bargined in good faith, only agreeing to unspecified changes in tax deductions. Never has the GOP put up anything which the CBO could score, leaving us to believe the wild claims of $800 billion in revenue. Besides, all analysis of the Republican proposal points to more tax cuts for the weathy while the middle class gets stuck with tax increases. And they never show how austerity can spur economic growth, which is the only real way out of the problem. Boehner's comment that &quot w)e've been reasonable and responsible" is downright laughable as they have been neither.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
33. "austerity can spur economic growth"
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:31 AM
Dec 2012

Yeah, that's going really well in Europe. Look at Greece, they're in an economic boom.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
28. So Apparently Boner Has Forgotten the House is the Chamber With the Spending Authority
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:13 AM
Dec 2012

The Senate does not have the constitutional authority of the the purse strings. The House does. Who controls the House? Why that would be ineffective Boner and the rest of the Republicans.

The Senate already passed a budget bill they sent to the House for consideration - IN FEBRUARY. So Boner you're full of orange shit as usual.

cstanleytech

(26,300 posts)
35. Ya know I think its time that Boehner had an cat scan done as
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:39 AM
Dec 2012

he might have some issues especially if he believes the BS that is spewing from his own mouth.

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
42. No dice, Boehner.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 02:02 AM
Dec 2012

That train has already left the station and you're the one standing on the platform with the dunce cap on your head. We know very well who's to blame and it's not the President.

 

Stewland

(163 posts)
44. Today's GOP
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 02:52 AM
Dec 2012

Today's GOP is a shadow of its former self. These creatures are nothing like the civic minded republicans of 50 years ago. Today the perty is filled with greedy,selfish,intolerant ,racist,homophobic, whacked out fundamentalists and fascists. Too bad we don't have a viable third and fourth political parties. Hopefully the GOP becomes extinct .

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
45. Then he better send a text and tell Lyndsey Graham to get on the same page...
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 03:40 AM
Dec 2012

Lindsey Graham On Fiscal Cliff: 'Hats Off To The President. He Won.'

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) used his "Fox News Sunday" appearance to congratulate President Barack Obama on his impending victory in the so-called fiscal cliff negotiations, predicting that tax rates will go up on people making more than $400,000 or $500,000 as a result of the coming Senate deal.

"Hats off to the president. He won," Graham said. "What have we accomplished? Political victory for the president. Hats off to the president. He stood his ground. He's going to get tax rate increases, maybe not at [$]250[,000], but on upper-income Americans. And the sad news for the country is we've accomplished very little in not becoming Greece or getting out of debt. This bill won't affect the debt situation."

... More at link ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/30/lindsey-graham-fiscal-cliff_n_2384328.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
49. A couple of the
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:48 AM
Dec 2012

reasons Greece is in a pickle was because of their wealthy citizens evading from paying their taxes and Goldman Sachs as well as other Banks were paid millions by the Greek Government to cook the books on loans. Now we read some things about Mitch McConnell. Boner is also in bed with Wall Street Lobbyists and banks like Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan. Our sorry American media, don't report or investigate these things. Even that meeting by GOP members of the senate and House shows a dereletion by the Amerixcan media on investigative reporting. If you look up the definition of conspiracy, this would fit the meaning.

The only way America can get rid of this problem, is to rid herself of the cancer. That cancer is the GOP. The people that sent these people to office, need to understand the problem these people are causing this country. It is not just these people in congress either but institutions like the media. FOX for example is owned by Murdoch. When you have a snall group of people owning or monopolizing American Industries like Murdoch, that can be even worst that it being state owned. It is called Vulture Capitolism.

Heathen57

(573 posts)
46. Obama IS leading
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:10 AM
Dec 2012

Boner cannot grasp the simple idea that nobody can lead when those you are supposed to be leading are all running around throwing temper tantrums because they don't get to run things.

The GOP remind me very much of a group of spoiled rich kindergarteners whose parents never said the word NO! to them. I expect to see McConnell hold a press conference and tell the world he is going to hold his breath until he turns blue because Reid and Obama didn't bow down and kiss his high and mighty arse.

Now they have once again screwed the poodle, but this time, at least some of the news outlets are not spreading the blame but heaping it squarely onto the GOP where it belongs.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
50. Gee, Boner, sorry you and yours are asshurt because the wealthy can't keep their precious tax cutz.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 06:44 AM
Dec 2012

Truth is, they NEVER wanted to make the wealthy pay even one red cent more. They wanted to keep the Bewsh tax cutz for the wealthy permanent while gutting social programs and not touching the MIC, not touching corporate welfare and pinning the bill on the lower 98%. They keep forgetting this isn't the Bewsh '00s they live in and there are no more rubberstamps for their theft.

Hope the attempted heist was worth it.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
51. Too late.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 06:52 AM
Dec 2012

If people don't get the message now that you're all a bunch of obstructionist assholes, then maybe they'll catch a clue tomorrow morning.

And by the way, John, thank you very much for the nice reduction I'm about to see in my next paycheck.

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Theyletmeeatcake2

(348 posts)
54. A limp excuse
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 08:44 AM
Dec 2012

Boner! Seriously these guys aren't happy with a fair share....they want everyone to come to them with cap in hand.....Fuck them .....Put in like everyone else you parasites.

unblock

(52,267 posts)
55. a president's job is to "stand up to his own party"?
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 08:50 AM
Dec 2012

and when exactly did shrub, for example, ever do that?

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
56. Wow! They really DO think we're stupid!
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 08:56 AM
Dec 2012

And, we have real short memories, too, apparently. It's not that Boehner is living in the alternate Fox News universe. It's that he thinks we ALL are. It never ceases to amaze me how so many people can keep electing and reelecting representatives who think so very little of them.

surrealAmerican

(11,362 posts)
57. What a strange, disjointed statement.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 08:58 AM
Dec 2012

"Americans elected Obama to lead ... but he just won't do what we tell him to, and we won't follow him." Is that what you're saying, Mr. Boehner?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
58. The Boner is pathetic
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:19 AM
Dec 2012

His name is totally misleading. The man hasn't had a boner in 4 years for sure. Maybe he should stand up to the teabag branch of the GOP and show the world he can lead.

What a pathetic piece of self-pitying whiny blubbermouth he is.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
67. Well, it looks like Boehner is leaning toward not bringing the Senate Bill to a vote...
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 04:54 PM
Jan 2013

...instead, the House is proposing to amend it, then send it back to Senate. Perhaps Boehner will take another shot at Plan B?

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
64. Sit down and STFU, John. You had your turn. Remember?
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 01:17 PM
Dec 2012

You traded in all of your Scrabble letters for new letters and that means you lose your turn. Rules are rules.

caveat_imperator

(193 posts)
66. Demanding that rethugs get everything and Democrats get nothing
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 03:35 PM
Dec 2012

is neither reasonable nor responsible, boehner.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
71. Kentauros: Go fuck yourself!
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:13 AM
Jan 2013

And I'll say it again, this time with greater emphasis:

[font size="4"]Boner, go fuck yourself![/font]

bamacrat

(3,867 posts)
72. Who should we blame then?...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:23 AM
Jan 2013

The pukes always bitch that the Pres offers no plan or whatever yet neither do they. The R's dont want to come up with something, they see it as better to say no than think of a proposition.

Another reason they should be blamed and shunned: Grover Norquist, he said that since we went over the cliff it is ok for pukes to vote on the tax increase because it is actually a tax cut. This is the most unAmerican thing there is: Fuck the country over to save face politically. I hope the 113th is better, but we all know the 114th will be since I really can't see the pukes keeping the House after what all 2013 has in store.

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