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UrbScotty

(23,980 posts)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 06:35 PM Jan 2013

‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ dischargees to receive full back pay from DOD

Source: The Hill

In a landmark settlement, the Pentagon has agreed to give full back pay to U.S. service members who were discharged due to their sexual orientation under the military's “Don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

The payouts will be granted to service members dismissed from the military under the now-repealed policy on or after November 2004.

“This means so much to those of us who dedicated ourselves to the military, only to be forced out against our will for being who we are,” former Air Force Staff Sgt. Richard Collins said in a statement from the American Civil Liberties Union, which brought the lawsuit.

Under "Don’t ask," service members who were honorably discharged automatically had their separation pay cut in half.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/policy-and-strategy/275971-service-members-discharged-under-dont-ask-dont-tell-to-receive-full-back-pay

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‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ dischargees to receive full back pay from DOD (Original Post) UrbScotty Jan 2013 OP
This is fair. Good. n/t Duval Jan 2013 #1
Excellent, but overdue.... n/t Still Sensible Jan 2013 #2
Doing the right thing. nt msanthrope Jan 2013 #3
Great news K&R FreeState Jan 2013 #4
I was going to say--why only since 2004? too little, way too late for some. niyad Jan 2013 #5
Statute of limitations jeff47 Jan 2013 #6
But more could sue - this is only 181 in New Mexico FreeState Jan 2013 #7
same reason I am not eligble for full pst 9/11 GI Bill benefits pasto76 Jan 2013 #15
Forward. Politicub Jan 2013 #8
I'm sure those Military Service People who are in this Lawsuit from ACLU Cha Jan 2013 #9
CUE THE VONAGE THEME! rocktivity Jan 2013 #10
this is good... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #11
Don't Get It Coronamaker Jan 2013 #12
What difference would it make? gkhouston Jan 2013 #13
oops. wrong replyee. sorry Vanje Jan 2013 #17
People were fired when it was found out that they were gay. Vanje Jan 2013 #18
That is WONDERFUL! Marrah_G Jan 2013 #14
Somewhere, Leonard Matlovich is smiling. Ken Burch Jan 2013 #16
I think the retroactive should go back burrowowl Jan 2013 #19
This is an excellent start! Hekate Jan 2013 #20
No It Is Not Fair .. and here's why YOHABLO Jan 2013 #21
My heart goes out to you. Sunlei Jan 2013 #23
+100000000000000004 Great Caesars Ghost Jan 2013 #25
good fair news indeed. Do they also change discharge papers and allow to serve in same positions? Sunlei Jan 2013 #22
All I care about is strict protection for the LGBT service people Great Caesars Ghost Jan 2013 #24

FreeState

(10,580 posts)
4. Great news K&R
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 06:43 PM
Jan 2013

Too bad it does not cover all the members, it only covers those 181 service members in the lawsuit.

1994: 617
1995: 772
1996: 870
1997: 1,007
1998: 1,163
1999: 1,046
2000: 1,241
2001: 1,273
2002: 906
2003: 787
2004: 668
2005: 742
2006: 623
2007: 627
2008: 619
2009: 428
2010: 261
Total: 13,650

niyad

(113,550 posts)
5. I was going to say--why only since 2004? too little, way too late for some.
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 06:45 PM
Jan 2013

so, basically, at one and one half percent of those discharged will be part of this settlement.

big whoop.

FreeState

(10,580 posts)
7. But more could sue - this is only 181 in New Mexico
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 06:49 PM
Jan 2013

there are many more that were not part of this lawsuit who were discharged after 2003.

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
15. same reason I am not eligble for full pst 9/11 GI Bill benefits
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 09:29 PM
Jan 2013

like being able to transfer my benefits to the kids. Sorry, that only goes back to 2007. NOBODY - Dems or Pubs - wants to pay for it all.

Cha

(297,629 posts)
9. I'm sure those Military Service People who are in this Lawsuit from ACLU
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 07:10 PM
Jan 2013

and will receive back pay are very excited and appreciative of this decision. I'm happy for them!

Possibly more of those ousted by DADT will join in a lawsuit after hearing of this good news.

Coronamaker

(1 post)
12. Don't Get It
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:04 PM
Jan 2013

I am not sure I get this. I don't really care about who is what or why and maybe there are those who would consider that a problem but hey, to each his or her own.

What I don't know, and don't understand though is what the basis of the settlement was? Is this about people who were abiding by the DADT policy that were outed against their own desires, and then discharged despite the fact that they did not tell? Or is this people who outed themselves and then were mad that they were separated from the military?

I just did not see that really defined in the article mentioned in the link in the original post.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
13. What difference would it make?
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:13 PM
Jan 2013

People lost their jobs, often their careers, due to a bigoted and craptastic policy.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
14. That is WONDERFUL!
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 09:11 PM
Jan 2013

I'm glad to see them at least taking a step to right the wrong done to these men and women.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
21. No It Is Not Fair .. and here's why
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:09 PM
Jan 2013

What about the thousands, like myself who were discharged, under honorable conditions, way before DADT .. if you are going to compensate these individuals from 2004 on up, then why not all of us who may have had military careers. Also it seems that it is the people in the ranks of Officers who have most to gain, not enlisted men and women. My life would have been so much more different if I never had to go through the humiliation of a ''witch hunt'' that took place on the base in which I served. It was a very scary and horrible ordeal that I have to visit over and over. It was 1977 and I was 20 years old.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
23. My heart goes out to you.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:38 PM
Jan 2013

Perhaps your Vet group can contact the American Civil Liberties Union, and bring another lawsuit?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
22. good fair news indeed. Do they also change discharge papers and allow to serve in same positions?
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:35 PM
Jan 2013

They should go back to cover all military still living or families with military benefits.

 
24. All I care about is strict protection for the LGBT service people
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:02 PM
Jan 2013

There is a percentage that the recruits reason to sign up is to get the tools the millitary teaches them and use it for their own personal will such as political, racial, homophobic, religion, etc. Best case in point I can think of is the Oklahoma City Bomber who was a Gulf War vet and used his millitary teachings against the very country he served under. I know there are plenty of service people willing to work with the LGBT in service, but I wil not be surprised if I see a tragedy happen to our LGBT who serve by a fellow officer who happens to be homophobic.

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